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Jon Toews
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Sid Crosby
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Pat Bérgeron
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Hockey Hall of Fame Netminder Carey Price
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Perry Kernél Subban
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Other (Please Specify)
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Post #501 by AD » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:13 am

Well that was embarassing.
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Post #502 by NyQuil » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:18 am

What is ironic is that people are lauding the Kunitz selection because he plays with Crosby.

Getzlaf plays with Perry.

Sharp plays with Toews.

Who plays with Stamkos?
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Post #503 by AD » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:19 am

Didn't Stamkos get his leg amputated or something? Why are we even talking about him?
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Post #504 by MP » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:19 am

mcphee wrote:Kunitz is an asshole to play against. When the CH play the Pens, he drives me nuts, tough, sneaky dirty and seems to get big goals because he's in position, fundamentally sound.


"Fundamentally sound", yep that's what I'd look for when picking team Canada. It's not like there are that many players able to sort out the fundamentals of playing hockey in the great white north...

Fundamental Rule #1: Play wing with the most talented center in the league.
Fundamental Rule #2: Ride coat tails.
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Post #505 by MP » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:24 am

NyQuil wrote:What is ironic is that people are lauding the Kunitz selection because he plays with Crosby.

Getzlaf plays with Perry.

Sharp plays with Toews.

Who plays with Stamkos?


St. Louis was a top player before Stamkos, and has proven he can still produce while Stamkos had been out. Kunitz has never carried a line on his own.
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Post #506 by Craig » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:35 am

NyQuil wrote:What is ironic is that people are lauding the Kunitz selection because he plays with Crosby.

Getzlaf plays with Perry.

Sharp plays with Toews.

Who plays with Stamkos?


If those three duos are the ones you're building your top 3 lines around, obviously Stamkos plays with one of them, no? If you bring St. Louis to make a 4th duo, you're just limiting the minutes some of your best players end up playing.
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Post #507 by mcphee » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:47 am

Masterplan wrote:"Fundamentally sound", yep that's what I'd look for when picking team Canada. It's not like there are that many players able to sort out the fundamentals of playing hockey in the great white north...

Fundamental Rule #1: Play wing with the most talented center in the league.
Fundamental Rule #2: Ride coat tails.



I heard one of the pundits remark that Crosby isn't the easiest guy to play with, and I'd bet that they remembered him never really getting it going last time. There have been Warren Young or Blair MacDonald type players that had 1 big year because of a superstar on their line, but Kunitz is a good player that has proven that he can mesh with Crosby. Look, I'm a big St.Louis fan, sure fire hof'er. Guys that have a lot on the line chose another direction, and I'm just trying to figure out why. I can sort of see the thinking, but I'd prefer MSL's game to Marleau's in particular.
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Post #508 by AD » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:52 am

I think the Marleau pick is all about staffing a 4th line that makes sense.
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Post #509 by Hooker » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:00 am

Craig wrote:If those three duos are the ones you're building your top 3 lines around, obviously Stamkos plays with one of them, no? If you bring St. Louis to make a 4th duo, you're just limiting the minutes some of your best players end up playing.

Agreed. Leave fucking Sharp at home.
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Post #510 by mcphee » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:05 am

Hooker wrote:Agreed. Leave fucking Sharp at home.


Coaches love guys that they can trust, guys that know they have to be 3rd man high and are smart enough to get it deep late in a shift or to take the extra step to avoid icing. That's usually eye rolling stuff when they talk about it, but guys like Sharp know how to play, and the staff sleeps easier with these guys around.
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Post #511 by AD » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:10 am

I asked for line combos yesterday. I'm still waiting. :colbert:



Meanwhile, from memory:

- Kunitz - Crosby -
- Stamkos -
- Toews - Sharp
- Marleau -
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Post #512 by Artie » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:12 am

maybe next time we just go with the top All Stars and eliminate contact as well while we are at it
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Post #513 by MP » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:22 am

Blue wrote:Kunitz Crosby Stamkos
Tavares Getzlaf Perry
Sharp Toews Bergeron
Benn Duchene Carter


Marleau Nash


Then after the first 20 mins:

Tavares Crosby Stamkos
Nash Getzlaf Perry
Sharp Toews Bergeron
Benn Duchene Marleau

Carter Kunitz
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Post #514 by clawfirst » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:25 am

MacArturo wrote:maybe next time we just go with the top All Stars and eliminate contact as well while we are at it


Pretty much already in motion, no?

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Post #515 by MP » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:26 am

Blue wrote:YE OF LITTLE FAITH!


Please convince me of how a line of:

Tavares, Crosby and Stamkos

Isn't better than:

Kunitz, Crosby and Stamkos?
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Post #516 by mcphee » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:31 am

Masterplan wrote:Please convince me of how a line of:

Tavares, Crosby and Stamkos

Isn't better than:

Kunitz, Crosby and Stamkos?
There's only 1 puck and someone has to retrieve it and set picks to allow the likes of Crosby some room to move. Lines depend on how much a guy needs to have the puck on his stick.
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Post #517 by MP » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:34 am

And speaking of familiarity, Nash and Getzlaf have meshed well in the past so I think that's another reason he was selected. I'd expect that Nash-Getz-Perry is penciled in to start the tournie...
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Post #518 by MP » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:37 am

Blue wrote:mine has a guy who plays wing ACTUALLY playing wing with his everyday NHL center (chemistry), you have 3 centers


And mine has better skill and hockey IQ.
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Post #519 by MP » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:48 am

Blue wrote:you must know they brought Kunitz to play with Sid


Yes, because that's the ONLY reason to bring him.

I just think when the chips are down there is no way you don't ice the best line possible, and that's not going to happen by putting the least talented player selected on your top line (chemistry or not).
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Post #520 by Artie » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:24 pm

Masterplan wrote:Yes, because that's the ONLY reason to bring him.

I just think when the chips are down there is no way you don't ice the best line possible, and that's not going to happen by putting the least talented player selected on your top line (chemistry or not).



no worries fellas, PK's got this covered
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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #521 by clawfirst » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:35 pm

Is it that French midget everyone is freaking out about being left off our team?
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Post #522 by MP » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:38 pm

The Bytown Boozer wrote:[LEFT]TRIVIA TIME

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Who is the NHL's leading scorer since the 2010 Olympics took place in Vancouver?


Kunitz?

Do you have a breakdown of all team canada members since 2010?
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Post #523 by mcphee » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:38 pm

Masterplan wrote:And speaking of familiarity, Nash and Getzlaf have meshed well in the past so I think that's another reason he was selected. I'd expect that Nash-Getz-Perry is penciled in to start the tournie...


I see Benn being a natural with them.
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Post #524 by Artie » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:39 pm

I have never seen so much love for an undersized, over-aged francophone on these here boards

maybe MAW's reign will bring diversity afterall
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #525 by MP » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:40 pm

mcphee wrote:I see Benn being a natural with them.


Another good option for sure.
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Post #526 by Babych » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:42 pm

clawfirst wrote:Is it that French midget everyone is freaking out about being left off our team?


Legendary goaler Marc Andre Fleury in fact stands an imposing 6'2"
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Post #527 by edgar_dong » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:51 pm

Sharp - Toews - Carter

"Whoa!" :coley_moley:
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Post #528 by Artie » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:06 pm

Jeff Carter - 2014 Olympian

"There’s a lot of coaches out there, a lot of GM’s,” he noted, taking a rather pointed jab at all the armchair coaches and general managers. “I think I can bring a lot to the team. Speed and size, and I feel like I can put the puck in the net.”
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #529 by NyQuil » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:08 pm

As an aside, I find it hilarious that the most anti-St. Louis people on this Broad appear to be Hab fans.
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Post #530 by edgar_dong » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:10 pm

NyQuil wrote:As an aside, I find it hilarious that the most anti-St. Louis people on this Broad appear to be Hab fans.


St. Louis is a great man, but it is the exclusion of Michael Richards that is the true crime.
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Post #531 by mcphee » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:11 pm

NyQuil wrote:As an aside, I find it hilarious that the most anti-St. Louis people on this Broad appear to be Hab fans.


Has anyone actually been anti St.Louis ? The player not the city which I'm told is lovely.
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Post #532 by mcphee » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:11 pm

edgar_dong wrote:St. Louis is a great man, but it is the exclusion of Michael Richards that is the true crime.



They've never forgiven him for the racial slurs.
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Post #533 by edgar_dong » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:11 pm

True Crime: The Michael Richards Exclusion
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Post #534 by NyQuil » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:11 pm

Not to mention, the criticism of St. Louis was that his production was based on his reliance upon Stamkos.

Circumstances this year have shown that he is more than capable of producing without him, and that somehow HASN'T helped him make his case.

Who leaves off the defending Art Ross winner for Mr. McFatty, Mr. Remora-to-Crosby's-Cock and Mr. I-Had-My-Captaincy-Taken-Away-Because-I-Wilt-Under-Pressure?

Also, Jeff Carter.
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Post #535 by mcphee » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:13 pm

NyQuil wrote:Not to mention, the criticism of St. Louis was that his production was based on his reliance upon Stamkos.

Circumstances this year have shown that he is more than capable of producing without him, and that somehow HASN'T helped him make his case.


There's nothing to criticize in his game. Who attributed his numbers to Stamkos ? I can't remember this and don't want to look it up.
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Post #536 by Artie » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:20 pm

NyQuil wrote:As an aside, I find it hilarious that the most anti-St. Louis people on this Broad appear to be Hab fans.


Liar
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #537 by mcphee » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:23 pm

MacArturo wrote:Liar


Fucking NyQuil.
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Post #538 by Artie » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:25 pm

mcphee wrote:Fucking NyQuil.


probably not enough
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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