Hovercraft wrote:jester wrote:Hovercraft wrote:The bottom line is that Trump and the GOP are allowing racism, white supremacy and misogyny to be normalized and grow again. They are giving the scum of the earth the confidence to come out from under their rocks and feel comfortable with their hate fueled opinions.
The average US racist maybe isn't a white supremacist in practice,as in they dont go to KKK/charlottsville rallies but they do believe in most of the principles of white supremacy.
No, they don't. Latent/casual racism is widespread. White supremacist ideology is not.
This is not to minimize the very real problems with Trump and co. But white supremacy is a very specific ideological strain. Joe baby boomer GOP voter that marinates in FNC BS very likely holds some views we might label as racist. It's a big leap from racist thinking to believing in state sponsored racial discrimination and/or ethnic cleansing of sovereign territory. The latter parts are *necessary* components of white supremacist ideology, and not wanting black people in your country club or neighborhood don't meet the threshold. Nor, more commonly, does buying into racist stereotypes, etc.
Those folks are guilty of a lot of things (ignorance chief among them), but let's not start acting like they are hidden members of the NSDAP. They ignore signs of systemic racism, are ambivalent about how historical circumstances have shaped community circumstances, tend to be xenophobic and jingoist, etc.
And before we go too far in thinking Trump is a growth industry for these groups. He certainly has given them cover to come out in the open, but the resulting push back has been intense and the GOP is facing an election year where they may get devastated ... in part due to the fact that Trump is a historically unpopular president.
State sponsored racial discrimination, like a travel ban on brown people or building a wall to keep out mexicans? Trump's base jizzes their pants over ideas like those. It's more than just average racism, it's pure hatred of anyone who doesn't look like them. Recent incidents like these(below) originate from more than just racism. We can split hairs over the definition of white supremacy in 2018 vs 1939 but the bottom line is there is a real problem in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olat ... s_shooting , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Port ... ain_attack
and Chaos, Austria isn't immune to this kind of crap recently either(and neither is Canada) : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 47371.html . People wishing a baby would die of crib death just because it happens to be muslim/brown.
Hopefully Jester is right and the blow back from Trump and co will cause a major shift back towards the left globally
You just cited two examples that target non-citizens. Some racism/bigotry involved there? Sure. But hardline immigration policy ... populism and protectionism/isolationism are not new and not white supremacism. In fact, there is little shocking about the appeal of such policies during and following periods of economic insecurity. You are conflating ideologies/policies that have some overlap, but are far from one and the same.
And the issue is not whether racism, white supremacists, etc. exist and are a problem. They very obviously are. The point is that we do not need to get hyperbolic about the breadth of white supremacism's appeal. Nor do we need to make villains of median GOP voters.
I would also strongly caution against using anecdotal evidence and isolated events to make sweeping arguments. Violent incidents are noisy news events. But just as jihadists don't define Islam, white supremacists don't define rural, conservative whites or however you want to frame that group.