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Post #1851 by Rogers Pancreas » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:47 am

It's open.
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Post #1853 by CharlieGirl » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:19 am

I bet the moron who started the thread is regretting it now.

Love mja's response that he take up competitive knitting or such.
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Post #1854 by GoneFullHextall » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:25 pm

that is HF at its finest.
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bunch of clueless tools.
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Post #1855 by CantSeeColors » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:25 pm

CharlieGirl wrote:I bet the moron who started the thread is regretting it now.

Love mja's response that he take up competitive knitting or such.

Great response, but it was probably ban worthy
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Post #1856 by chaosof99 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:54 am

The fairweather Rangers fan in another forum I regularly visit posted this. Still laughing my ass off.

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Post #1857 by CantSeeColors » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:13 am

Glass is an interesting choice there. His penalty at the end lost the shutout for henrik
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Post #1858 by Rogers Pancreas » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:46 am

Anyone who thinks mixing up lines will save this team is a fucking idiot that lacks any understanding of the sport, or even the most basic of systems.
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Post #1860 by chaosof99 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:01 pm

Someone on reddit was trying to tell me that Ryan Nugent-Hopkins was a better defensive forward than Sean Couturier. The actual results were less than impressive for RNH.
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Post #1861 by CharlieGirl » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:34 pm

chaosof99 wrote:Someone on reddit was trying to tell me that Ryan Nugent-Hopkins was a better defensive forward than Sean Couturier. The actual results were less than impressive for RNH.


I don't think even Nugent-Hopkins' mom would say that.
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Post #1863 by chaosof99 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:04 am

Well, the Flyers are playing good hockey which means "that guy" types come out of the woodwork on the main board.
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Post #1864 by chaosof99 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:36 am

Today I've seen a Leafs fan bust out "1975" in an argument with a Flyers fan. It must take a special lack of self-awareness to do that. Mind you that the Leafs Cup drought is longer. In fact, they haven't even been to the Finals since 1967.
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Post #1865 by Kilgore Trout » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:52 am

To the Leafs' credit, though, they probably don't build a new statue of the '67 team every few years.
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Post #1866 by CantSeeColors » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:30 pm

Plenty of statues on the ice for them every night, the past few years.
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Post #1867 by CharlieGirl » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:15 pm

Dammit, where is that rep button?
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Post #1868 by JLHockeyKnight » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:25 pm

CantSeeColors wrote:Plenty of statues on the ice for them every night, the past few years.


We can close this thread now. You just won it.
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Post #1869 by chaosof99 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:59 am

This thread is amazing. Avs have been eliminated. Blame the loser point other teams got and Colorado with its 37 regulation losses did not. And definitely don't blame the team and their 1-6-0 record in the last 7 games including a shutout loss to the Wild.
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Post #1870 by chaosof99 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:38 am

Most absurd trade proposal I've read in a while

If Philly doesn't make playoffs, would this be alright:

Connor, 1st rounder (Top 2 protected), and Pavelec

for

Provorov, 1st rounder (Top 3 protected), another good prospect, and Mason?


This guy wants to swap top prospects (in which the Flyers have the better player), pawn of a terrible goalie for one of the best goalies in the league and take another prospect off the Flyers and the only benefit the Flyers get is moving up slightly in draft position.
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Post #1871 by VLoo » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:29 pm

chaosof99 wrote:Most absurd trade proposal I've read in a while

If Philly doesn't make playoffs, would this be alright:

Connor, 1st rounder (Top 2 protected), and Pavelec

for

Provorov, 1st rounder (Top 3 protected), another good prospect, and Mason?


This guy wants to swap top prospects (in which the Flyers have the better player), pawn of a terrible goalie for one of the best goalies in the league and take another prospect off the Flyers and the only benefit the Flyers get is moving up slightly in draft position.


I don't really agree with this, but the rest is true and it's a stupid trade.
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Post #1872 by chaosof99 » Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:25 am

HockeysFuture is shutting down on July 1st. HFBoards however will remain, apparently.
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Post #1873 by vonbonds » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:45 am

They got it backwards
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Post #1874 by CantSeeColors » Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:35 am

HFBoards: the cockroach of the hockey internet.

edit: moderately ironic that they'll be open for the draft, but shut down for free agency of real NHL players.
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Post #1875 by dbr » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:01 am

Can they get rid of their obnoxious adds? Those things alone have made me leave their website multiple times.
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Post #1876 by chaosof99 » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:22 am

dbr wrote:Can they get rid of their obnoxious adds? Those things alone have made me leave their website multiple times.


I would recommend using an ad-blocker on all websites. Ads are a popular vector for malware and particularly on sites like HFBoards who don't necessarily have full control of the ad-vendor you may be at risk of contracting malware when viewing ads.
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Post #1877 by GoneFullHextall » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:28 pm

ya the full page ads suck.
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Post #1878 by dbr » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:38 pm

chaosof99 wrote:
dbr wrote:Can they get rid of their obnoxious adds? Those things alone have made me leave their website multiple times.


I would recommend using an ad-blocker on all websites. Ads are a popular vector for malware and particularly on sites like HFBoards who don't necessarily have full control of the ad-vendor you may be at risk of contracting malware when viewing ads.


I have one on my personal computer. It's a problem when I'm on my cell phone.
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Post #1879 by Rogers Pancreas » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:18 pm

Trade proposals crush dreams.
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Post #1880 by chaosof99 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:03 am

Found this argument about the Flyers draft success (or lack thereof) in vote thread between Hanafin and Provorov:

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Carter? Richards? Giroux? Forsberg but moved him for Lindros.

Meanwhile, our best drafted D in the past 25 years have been Pitkanen, Niinimaa, Woywitka, Sbisa.

Little difference in talent levels.

Plus, we have no real #1 Dman right now. We DO have a #1 C in Giroux. So trading Provy for a potential 1st line forward would be dumb. We are going to keep him.

Carter and Richards were 1C's ? Forsberg/Lindros was 25 years ago.

Giroux is a fine one.

If anything they were very low end 1C's, in fact during their time spent with the Flyers, they rank outside the top 20 in scoring for C's, even though they played more than 90% of the games.

If Carter and Richards were 1C, guys like Horcoff, Arnott, Plekanec, Drury, Weiss were also one C's, because they produce at the same clip.

Also, weren't you the one arguing with me this summer that Gost was already a #1D ?

Or do you consider Couturier a 1C ? Or is it both ?



The comparisons he draws are of course ridiculous, particularly because most of the guys he counts up were at one point #1 centers for their teams, though not for very long. Carter and Richards were also #1C players but weren't on the Kings, which is I think where this guy seems to point to to discredit Tripod. The issue here is that a hallmark of the best teams in recent years is that they have multiple top-level centers who could be first line centers on several teams in the NHL. These teams' depth allows them to play them on separate lines and giving them multiple layers of attack. E.g. Crosby & Malkin, Krejci & Bergeron, or just the very same thing with Kopitar & Carter on the Kings. The outlier here is really Chicago who have rotated the second line center throughout their recent success, but that line is very often carried by Kane anyhow.
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Post #1881 by chaosof99 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:22 am

Why don't fringe NHLers switch to a plant based diet?

"Best" thread in a while, where websites like OneGreenPlanet and The Institute for Creation Research are wheeled out as evidence.
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Post #1882 by chaosof99 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:18 pm

Hey Devilbros, could you maybe have a talk with this SMantzas guy about not being a whiny bitch in every single mainboard Flyers related thread? Kthxbye
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Post #1883 by chaosof99 » Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:29 am

Just WTF is this guy even talking about.

TheTechNoir wrote:It skews the sample/distribution though. Points are worth less when scored in the same game, unless you are on a consecutive point streak of at least 5+ games with at least a point. Voracek has points in 4 straight, so he needs at least a point in his next game or else those 8 count for less. This way, you can have a GOAT like Kane have a legitimate 100 point season potentially. If he gets enough points consistently, then it legitimizes and gives full value to his multi-point games, you feel me?

For example, Schenn scored a hat trick today. That is 3 goals, but all in the same game. So they are worth 0.4 goals each, so actually Schenn scored 1.2 goals today, round to 1 goal.

Secondary assists are only worth .5 assists, and of course, 4 pts in one game (not counting secondaries decrease) actually amounts to 1.6 round to 2P. So that's 4 points in 2 games, not bad. Today's game, he had one secondary assist, so that brings his points to 1.5P, round back up to 2. Against Edmonton he also got 1 secondary, so 4 in 2 is retained. Good for him. If he had one more secondary, he would've only had 3 pts in 2 games.

Of course, the official "stats" include such silly metrics as assists are all equal and if you score 5 goals in a game, you scored 5 goals, but we all know that's not right.

Laine for example went multiple games without goals, but he had two hat tricks. It skews his total and makes him look better than he was. He's actually not that good at scoring, just in single games spread out. That is caused by his play style.


EDIT:
Players exceeding a certain corsi to points ratio, like Kopitar, are exempt from this categorization.

In summation: Pump the brakes, he is a decent player, but he is paid so, so much. Scary.
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Post #1884 by jester » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:56 am

Only goals that should get discounted are ENG. secondary assists are "less" than primary, but beyond that a bunch of garbage there. Even distribution is ideal, but every good player has games/runs with multiple points.
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Post #1885 by Rogers Pancreas » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:23 am

Am I missing something here?

We've got a solid core of NHL players right now in Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn, Konecny, Gostisbehere, Provorov, and Mason. We have Sanheim (WHL All-Star), Morin, Stolarz (AHL all-star), Laughton (OHL All-Star), Hagg, and Lyon (NCAA All-Star) in the AHL knocking on the door for their chance. And then we've got few others ready to step in behind them once they graduate to the NHL in Lindblom (SHL All-Star to be), Hart (CHL All-Star), Sandstrom, and Rubtsov.

Barring injuries, how is this team not situated to be hyper-competitive in the future?
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Post #1886 by Kilgore Trout » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:29 am

Rogers Pancreas wrote:Am I missing something here?

We've got a solid core of NHL players right now in Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn, Konecny, Gostisbehere, Provorov, and Mason. We have Sanheim (WHL All-Star), Morin, Stolarz (AHL all-star), Laughton (OHL All-Star), Hagg, and Lyon (NCAA All-Star) in the AHL knocking on the door for their chance. And then we've got few others ready to step in behind them once they graduate to the NHL in Lindblom (SHL All-Star to be), Hart (CHL All-Star), Sandstrom, and Rubtsov.

Barring injuries, how is this team not situated to be hyper-competitive in the future?


You're not missing anything, this team has a pile of great prospects on the cusp of the NHL. And an NHL roster that will finally shake free of almost all the dead weight. Near future ought to be very bright.
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Post #1887 by FlyHigh » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:11 am

Rogers Pancreas wrote:Am I missing something here?

We've got a solid core of NHL players right now in Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn, Konecny, Gostisbehere, Provorov, and Mason. We have Sanheim (WHL All-Star), Morin, Stolarz (AHL all-star), Laughton (OHL All-Star), Hagg, and Lyon (NCAA All-Star) in the AHL knocking on the door for their chance. And then we've got few others ready to step in behind them once they graduate to the NHL in Lindblom (SHL All-Star to be), Hart (CHL All-Star), Sandstrom, and Rubtsov.

Barring injuries, how is this team not situated to be hyper-competitive in the future?


I'd be mildly concerned on the forward group. Giroux and Voracek will start declining in a year or two, Schenn's ES play this year has been fairly concerning, Cousins/Laughton haven't really kicked on this year, haven't seen NAK this year so can't really judge, but the stats don't look great.

We're discovering this year that the team is apparently an injury away from PEB slotting in as the 2C which isn't ideal.

Guess I'd feel better if we had another really solid forward prospect or two. Outside of Lindblom and Konecny, seems like a bunch of guys are stagnating/treading water. I really like the sound of Rubtsov but playing <5 mins per night doesn't sound great for developing.

All that Debbie Downer stuff aside though, they're in a good spot and I'm sure that 20+ teams in the league would trade their young player groups for Philly's.
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Post #1888 by vonbonds » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:28 pm

You guys are missing high end forwards, I agree with FlyHigh. It's really about getting the core together within a 3-4 year window. G and Scorachek will be on the decline for sure when your defense matures.
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Post #1889 by vonbonds » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:35 pm

I forgot to add. I think Hextall is showing he could be an exceptional GM as so far he's been fantastic. Cleaning out some fat and not making stupid trades is the easy part. Now you'll find out how good he is looking for high end talent drafting where good teams reside on draft day.
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Post #1890 by dbr » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:14 pm

I'm not too concerned with our forwards. We have a great history of developing solid forwards. It's our history of not developing defense and goaltending that is concerning. It could be argued that Hextall was our last developed starter. I'm not even sure how much development he had either. I think he was a young rookie.
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Post #1891 by Rogers Pancreas » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:28 pm

I'm a little concerned, but I could also be underestimating the drop-off of Giroux, Voracek, and/or Simmonds. Couturier's offense I think is what it is at this point. And Schenn pisses me off just thinking about his inconsistencies, and skill-set. But because Giroux and Voracek are both playmakers (primarily), I tend to think they'll be productive a little while longer than most are expecting, which makes the development of Couturier and Schenn so... minor.
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Post #1892 by Hovercraft » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:58 am

Rogers Pancreas wrote:I'm a little concerned, but I could also be underestimating the drop-off of Giroux, Voracek, and/or Simmonds. Couturier's offense I think is what it is at this point. And Schenn pisses me off just thinking about his inconsistencies, and skill-set. But because Giroux and Voracek are both playmakers (primarily), I tend to think they'll be productive a little while longer than most are expecting, which makes the development of Couturier and Schenn so... minor.


Luckily for now Simmonds has taken a step forward offensively, and is showing he can drive the offense on a line by himself. I think Giroux will be like Danny B later in his career, eventually he should move to RW when he can't take the C duties anymore. So we should be drafting for top 6 centers.
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Post #1893 by CantSeeColors » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:39 am

As time goes, I'd like to see Giroux not only moved to wing, but moved down the lineup at 5 on 5 so that he becomes more and more focused on PP and PK, both of which he's excellent at and both of which he probably remains excellent to elite at even as the jump in his legs slows. And both of which I'd argue are, on a minute by minute basis, more important than 5 on 5. That should be a few years down the road, though.
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Post #1894 by jester » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:07 pm

Rogers Pancreas wrote:I'm a little concerned, but I could also be underestimating the drop-off of Giroux, Voracek, and/or Simmonds. Couturier's offense I think is what it is at this point. And Schenn pisses me off just thinking about his inconsistencies, and skill-set. But because Giroux and Voracek are both playmakers (primarily), I tend to think they'll be productive a little while longer than most are expecting, which makes the development of Couturier and Schenn so... minor.


I think this is true to an extent--i.e., he is not going to suddenly turn into a PPG player. That being said, it would be nice to see what he could do for a season with competent wings around him. They've really given him brutal minutes the last couple of years with offensive anchors.
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Post #1895 by Rogers Pancreas » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:52 pm

If Schenn could settle in at wing, Couturier, Schenn, and Konecny could be a very solid group. Very similar to the Couturier, Schenn, and Read trio that did so well in their limited time together.
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Post #1896 by Hovercraft » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:23 pm

I am actually interested to see how Schenn does at C if left there for this year, I feel like he could create mismatches at ES as "3rd" line C, even if it's just a line like Read-Schenn-Weise. That said, I think if you look at Schenn's EV scoring, he has produced more on Couturier's RW than anywhere else.
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Re: The HF Flyers Board Shrine of Idiocy 2

Post #1897 by CantSeeColors » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:02 am

Hovercraft wrote:I am actually interested to see how Schenn does at C if left there for this year, I feel like he could create mismatches at ES as "3rd" line C, even if it's just a line like Read-Schenn-Weise. That said, I think if you look at Schenn's EV scoring, he has produced more on Couturier's RW than anywhere else.

That could be an issue of linemates too. Scheme absolutely needs some true play drivers on his wings
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Re: The HF Flyers Board Shrine of Idiocy 2

Post #1898 by chaosof99 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:32 am

At least this guy is honest that he only now cares about the distribution of draft picks because his team sucks.

And of course his idea is idiotic and he completely misunderstands the purpose of the draft. The whole thread is gold btw. A ration of about 19:1 posts where people tell the OP that he is an idiot while he desperately tries to make his position sound reasonable and miserably failing at it.
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Re: The HF Flyers Board Shrine of Idiocy 2

Post #1899 by chaosof99 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:55 am

The thread about the draft has become even better, btw. Now the Draft is "unamerican".
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Re: The HF Flyers Board Shrine of Idiocy 2

Post #1900 by Kilgore Trout » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:05 am

chaosof99 wrote:The thread about the draft has become even better, btw. Now the Draft is "unamerican".


To be fair, that's kinda true; the draft is some commie bullshit.

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