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Post #1251 by JLHockeyKnight » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:30 am

jester wrote:I assume most people recognize that Vikings plays fast and loose with fact. Also, you are talking about a period with a much flimsier historical record. Turn is a different beast, just because a) we really do know better; and b) people will "learn" from it. The latter is an irksome but unavoidable reality of dramatized history, so it is what it is. But I'm in some professional groups on facebook, and some of those folks get worked up by it.

On a related front, while I was going to school in Scotland I once walked into a room with "BRAVEHEART IS NOT SCOTTISH HISTORY!" scrawled on the whiteboard. So, we all have problems.


Well yeah I mean "The Patriot" depicted the war crimes like locking people into a church and then lighting it on fire. Which there is zero evidence to show that this ever happened. If I remember correctly the director was German so it was pointed out that he basically depicted the British in the Revolutionary War doing shit the Nazi's would do during WWII.

History's miniseries "Houdini" missed the mark an awful lot too, off the top of my head.
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Post #1252 by jester » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:44 am

Patriot is a travesty.
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Post #1253 by dbr » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:45 am

Which brings up the question, has there ever been a movie or TV series to depict history correctly?
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Post #1254 by vonbonds » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:45 am

I thought Master and Commander tried and succeeded. It wasn't a history story as it was fiction but they actively tried to be period correct.
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Post #1255 by jester » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:32 am

That's because O'brien did extensive archival research. The attention to uniform, etc. in the movie is a lot off the charts.

I was blown away by The Witch (very slow ...). It absolutely nails puritanism and folk beliefs about witchcraft.
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Post #1256 by vonbonds » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:41 am

jester wrote:That's because O'brien did extensive archival research. The attention to uniform, etc. in the movie is a lot off the charts.

I was blown away by The Witch (very slow ...). It absolutely nails puritanism and folk beliefs about witchcraft.

Neat write up on M & C.. http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=10557

I LOVE the Age of Sail. By far my favorite period in history. Do you recommend anything to read Jester or is that not a period that has interested you?
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Post #1257 by DeadPhish » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:41 am

dbr wrote:Which brings up the question, has there ever been a movie or TV series to depict history correctly?


Point Break.
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Post #1258 by dbr » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:14 pm

DeadPhish wrote:
dbr wrote:Which brings up the question, has there ever been a movie or TV series to depict history correctly?


Point Break.



Caught my first tube this morning.
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Post #1259 by dbr » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:15 pm

I believe Lincoln was pretty close as well.

D-Day in Saving Private Ryan was pretty damn real, too. The other half of the movie...much.

Downfall was pretty accurate, too.
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Post #1260 by jester » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:39 pm

vonbonds wrote:
jester wrote:That's because O'brien did extensive archival research. The attention to uniform, etc. in the movie is a lot off the charts.

I was blown away by The Witch (very slow ...). It absolutely nails puritanism and folk beliefs about witchcraft.

Neat write up on M & C.. http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=10557

I LOVE the Age of Sail. By far my favorite period in history. Do you recommend anything to read Jester or is that not a period that has interested you?


It's the period I study, but I haven't read much in the way of fiction. Not even O'brien, in fact, just know about his process and have read blurbs. He even based the dialogue of his writing on contemporary correspondence he read.

I will say, Downton Abbey did a lot of historical stuff really really well. It's a soap opera in period dress, but on class dynamics, religion, and the occasional racial issue they were great. There is an exceptional scene involving a jazz singer that i've brought up in teaching to show the way Britis and American views on race/class are different.
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Post #1261 by vonbonds » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:17 pm

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jester wrote:That's because O'brien did extensive archival research. The attention to uniform, etc. in the movie is a lot off the charts.

I was blown away by The Witch (very slow ...). It absolutely nails puritanism and folk beliefs about witchcraft.

Neat write up on M & C.. http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=10557

I LOVE the Age of Sail. By far my favorite period in history. Do you recommend anything to read Jester or is that not a period that has interested you?


It's the period I study, but I haven't read much in the way of fiction. Not even O'brien, in fact, just know about his process and have read blurbs. He even based the dialogue of his writing on contemporary correspondence he read.

I will say, Downton Abbey did a lot of historical stuff really really well. It's a soap opera in period dress, but on class dynamics, religion, and the occasional racial issue they were great. There is an exceptional scene involving a jazz singer that i've brought up in teaching to show the way Britis and American views on race/class are different.

Oh no, I'm not really a big fiction guy. I meant non-fiction. Pretty much anything on the Royal Navy floats my boat..literally.
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Post #1262 by jester » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:25 pm

NAM Rodger's The Wooden World is exceptional for learning about life on an Age of Sail naval vessel.
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Post #1263 by vonbonds » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:21 pm

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Post #1264 by JLHockeyKnight » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:03 am

dbr wrote:I believe Lincoln was pretty close as well.

D-Day in Saving Private Ryan was pretty damn real, too. The other half of the movie...much.

Downfall was pretty accurate, too.


Downfall from what I read is pretty accurate.

Lone survivor having read the book was pretty close but minor movie changes. Like they never witnessed the helicopter going down, if I remember correctly. Luttrell found that out after he recovered. And the battle at the end never happened. Hollywood ending.
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Post #1265 by Kilgore Trout » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:28 am

Anyone watching The Night Of?

First episode was pretty good.
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Post #1266 by vonbonds » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:07 am

Yup, tons of recognizable actors in it. I assume it has to be good with that many putting time into the same project.
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Post #1267 by Kilgore Trout » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:04 pm

Yea, real good cast. Apparently it was Gandolfini's pet project before he died.
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Post #1268 by Hovercraft » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:21 pm

Yeah first episode was really good. Looking forward to the rest of the story
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Post #1269 by JLHockeyKnight » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:57 pm

Anyone watch Stranger Things on Netflix? Lots of good reviews.
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Post #1270 by jester » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:58 am

JLHockeyKnight wrote:Anyone watch Stranger Things on Netflix? Lots of good reviews.


It's amazingly awesome for anyone with an iota of nostalgia for 80s sci-fi/conspiracy/etc. movies. We haven't finished it yet, but we ran through the first 5 episodes in two days, and watched the 6th tonight. In all seriousness, you'll probably be hooked as soon as the opening credits start (they are so on point) ... and so much Clash.
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Post #1271 by GoneFullHextall » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:59 am

damn you Jesse. you could of used the fire extinguisher on Cassidy.
all caught up on Preacher.
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Post #1272 by vonbonds » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:10 am

The show is all over the place. Also Cassidy is still alive after Tulip helped him with her pet.
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Post #1273 by GoneFullHextall » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:18 pm

vonbonds wrote:The show is all over the place. Also Cassidy is still alive after Tulip helped him with her pet.


oh. Jesus Christ is that what that was? fuck me I didn't even put 2 and 2 together. haha

probably safe to say Cassidy and Jesse wont be best mates anymore.
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Post #1274 by vonbonds » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:21 pm

GoneFullHextall wrote:
vonbonds wrote:The show is all over the place. Also Cassidy is still alive after Tulip helped him with her pet.


oh. Jesus Christ is that what that was? fuck me I didn't even put 2 and 2 together. haha

probably safe to say Cassidy and Jesse wont be best mates anymore.

I'm assuming he's alive by the commotion that went on behind the door.

I read somewhere that this is the prequel to the comics and next season it will start to follow its story line from its first release.
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Post #1275 by GoneFullHextall » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:41 pm

does make sense. Tulip is pissed at Jesse and Cassidy has a thing for Tulip. Maybe she uses Cassidy to get back at Jesse. Cassidy has a reason to be ticked at him now.
didn't read the comics so I don't know where this is headed if they do follow the comic books
The story is all over the place but I have enjoyed it so far. Next week will be a Cowboy episode I think.
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Post #1276 by vonbonds » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:47 pm

I haven't read the comics either it's just something I read. Never got into any.
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Post #1277 by Rogers Pancreas » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:58 pm

Saga of Swamp Thing by Alan Moore and Hellblazer are both fantastic reads. As are the original Watchmen novels.
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Post #1278 by MiD » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:52 pm

jester wrote:
JLHockeyKnight wrote:Anyone watch Stranger Things on Netflix? Lots of good reviews.


It's amazingly awesome for anyone with an iota of nostalgia for 80s sci-fi/conspiracy/etc. movies. We haven't finished it yet, but we ran through the first 5 episodes in two days, and watched the 6th tonight. In all seriousness, you'll probably be hooked as soon as the opening credits start (they are so on point) ... and so much Clash.

SweetMadreDeDios... 3 episodes yesterday, 5 today
every word Jester wrote is true
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Post #1279 by jester » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:57 pm

MiD wrote:
jester wrote:
JLHockeyKnight wrote:Anyone watch Stranger Things on Netflix? Lots of good reviews.


It's amazingly awesome for anyone with an iota of nostalgia for 80s sci-fi/conspiracy/etc. movies. We haven't finished it yet, but we ran through the first 5 episodes in two days, and watched the 6th tonight. In all seriousness, you'll probably be hooked as soon as the opening credits start (they are so on point) ... and so much Clash.

SweetMadreDeDios... 3 episodes yesterday, 5 today
every word Jester wrote is true


Ha, nice. We still have two episodes to go. Too swamped with work last night to watch an episode, but maybe tonight we'll finish it after the kid goes to sleep.
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Post #1280 by GoneFullHextall » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:52 pm

the new Star Trek movie is really good. very enjoyable.
better than Into Darkness imo
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Post #1281 by vonbonds » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:34 pm

I love Star Trek so this is good to hear.
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Post #1282 by Hovercraft » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:46 am

Yeah it was awesome, felt like a true trek adventure
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Post #1283 by GoneFullHextall » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:12 pm

the song Sabotage made its second appearance in the Star Trek reboot series.
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Post #1284 by GoneFullHextall » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:12 pm

that season finale of Preacher.

Holy fuck.
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Post #1285 by vonbonds » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:19 pm

Did you watch Talking Preacher afterwards. Lots of insight on the comic (which I didn't read..I don't read any comic quite frankly) and why they used season 1 to develop the characters as a "prequel" to setup next season which will follow the comic as a guideline.

I enjoyed the show and LOL at all the Brits playing Muricans
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Post #1286 by GoneFullHextall » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:07 pm

yeah I watched it.
good stuff.
damn girl from the audience getting the meatbaby doll haha
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Post #1287 by FlyHigh » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:02 pm

This Patton Oswalt thing...really, really hope that guy is doing OK. One of my favorite comedians and objectively one of the smartest and funniest people working in entertainment today. Also has always seemed like a genuinely good dude. That Facebook post he just had...man, just hope he's doing alright.
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Post #1288 by vonbonds » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:39 pm

What happened?
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Post #1289 by vonbonds » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:41 pm

Yikes..just looked it up
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Post #1290 by GoneFullHextall » Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:55 pm

2 things.
that French gymnast injury from yesterday. Good God, I had to turn away.

watched Ex Machina for the first time last night. Did not see that ending coming. I should have, but I didn't.
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Post #1291 by vonbonds » Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:25 pm

I saw it coming a mile away..what do I win?

Anyone watch Marcella yet on Netflix? Good stuff.
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Post #1292 by GoneFullHextall » Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:42 pm

I started watching the first season of Mr. Robot a few days ago.
haven't seen that show yet.
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Post #1293 by Hovercraft » Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:26 pm

Marcella was pretty good, kinda like female Luther.
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Post #1294 by vonbonds » Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:00 pm

Yup except I think Luther was better.
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Post #1295 by Kilgore Trout » Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:38 pm

Of course HE was better.
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Post #1296 by vonbonds » Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:43 pm

I don't want to say too much to ruin it for others who haven't seen it. I just think Marcella herself was a bit..much. I won't say anything else although I'm dying to..lol
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Post #1297 by GoneFullHextall » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:48 pm

went to see Suicide Squad tonight.
really enjoyed it. don't get where the hate is coming from.
there is a mid credit scene
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Post #1298 by Hovercraft » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:56 am

Yeah Luther is way better, I just mean in terms of a cop who bends the rules to get the bad guys.
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Post #1299 by DeadPhish » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:09 pm

I've been hearing good things about Stranger Things. Anyone watch yet?
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we are cutting the cord with Comcast cable on Friday.
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