Phillies thread 2

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Post #801 by FlyHigh » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:53 pm

Another great season, this Chase Utley story is great though:

Late last season, with the Dodgers up by seven runs in the eighth inning, a young, inexperienced player stole third base with two outs, infuriating the Milwaukee Brewers. Utley led off the top of the ninth and told Brewers catcher Martin Maldonaldo to have the pitcher drill him with a pitch. “It’s the only way [our] guy is going to learn there are ramifications for every action,” Utley told Maldonado.
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Post #802 by Sweet Dee » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:14 am

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Post #803 by chaosof99 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:44 pm

I just heard about Halladay's passing. I don't follow baseball but even I know he was a outstanding talent and holds some ridiculous marks (20th perfect game, 2nd postseason no-hitter). R.I.P.
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Post #804 by DeadPhish » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:17 am

chaosof99 wrote:I just heard about Halladay's passing. I don't follow baseball but even I know he was a outstanding talent and holds some ridiculous marks (20th perfect game, 2nd postseason no-hitter). R.I.P.


Yea this was a real bummer. I don’t think there was anyone more respected in baseball when he played. One of my favorite athletes ever.
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Post #805 by jester » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:01 pm

Fucking brutal. Young guy, young family, and it sounded like he had aspirations going forward after a cool down period post-career.
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Post #807 by Kilgore Trout » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:01 pm

Most toxic sports radio: Boston v. Philly, who've you got?
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Post #808 by JLHockeyKnight » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:26 pm

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Post #809 by Rogers Pancreas » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:41 am

There's a reason everyone outside of Massachusetts refers to those people as "Mass-holes", Kilgore.
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Post #810 by vonbonds » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:49 am

Rogers Pancreas wrote:There's a reason everyone outside of Massachusetts refers to those people as "Mass-holes", Kilgore.

One of my favorite sayings. My dad was a Long Island guy who went to and graduated from MIT. He hated all the locals up there as he said most were assholes.
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Post #811 by jester » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:02 pm

vonbonds wrote:
Rogers Pancreas wrote:There's a reason everyone outside of Massachusetts refers to those people as "Mass-holes", Kilgore.

One of my favorite sayings. My dad was a Long Island guy who went to and graduated from MIT. He hated all the locals up there as he said most were assholes.


New Yorkers (in the big sense) are not exactly known for their soft edges ...

There's a reason good comics, and bad attitudes emanate from the Northeast ... cold weather sucks.
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jester wrote:
vonbonds wrote:
Rogers Pancreas wrote:There's a reason everyone outside of Massachusetts refers to those people as "Mass-holes", Kilgore.

One of my favorite sayings. My dad was a Long Island guy who went to and graduated from MIT. He hated all the locals up there as he said most were assholes.


New Yorkers (in the big sense) are not exactly known for their soft edges ...

There's a reason good comics, and bad attitudes emanate from the Northeast ... cold weather sucks.

My dad probably had Aspergers looking back at his life. He was 5’ 10” and 130lbs as a freshman in college. He was an introvert as an adult so I can only guess what he was like when younger. He wasn’t your classic New Yorker.

I on the other hand is a classic NJ fuckbag. I’m normal unless you aren’t then I just let nature do it’s thing with my personality :pacman:
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Post #813 by Rogers Pancreas » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:29 pm

jester wrote:
vonbonds wrote:
Rogers Pancreas wrote:There's a reason everyone outside of Massachusetts refers to those people as "Mass-holes", Kilgore.

One of my favorite sayings. My dad was a Long Island guy who went to and graduated from MIT. He hated all the locals up there as he said most were assholes.


New Yorkers (in the big sense) are not exactly known for their soft edges ...

There's a reason good comics, and bad attitudes emanate from the Northeast ... cold weather sucks.


Which should tell you a little something about "Mass-holes".
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Post #814 by jester » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:39 pm

Rogers Pancreas wrote:
jester wrote:
vonbonds wrote:One of my favorite sayings. My dad was a Long Island guy who went to and graduated from MIT. He hated all the locals up there as he said most were assholes.


New Yorkers (in the big sense) are not exactly known for their soft edges ...

There's a reason good comics, and bad attitudes emanate from the Northeast ... cold weather sucks.


Which should tell you a little something about "Mass-holes".


Eh, I tend to think of it as everyone hates everyone else for one reason or another. Tribalism at its best.
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Post #815 by Rogers Pancreas » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:30 am

That's a false narrative if there ever was one.
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Post #817 by CantSeeColors » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:49 am

They're finally going to be fun again this year. I can't wait
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Post #818 by Sweet Dee » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:34 pm

We are going to Opening Day can't wait, always so much fun just sucks it's a Thursday haha.
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Jake Arrieta should help make that case.
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Not Phillies related but this is gold
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Post #821 by Sweet Dee » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:58 am

Opening day! Yay baseball!
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Post #822 by CantSeeColors » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:35 pm

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Post #823 by Konecny HypeTrain Captain » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:13 am

Early signs for Kapler aren't looking to well. I mean I get it's his first gig, but little league coaches wouldn't be making some of the decisions he is.
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Post #824 by Sweet Dee » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:56 am

We are going to two games this week already concerned about them. UGH.
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Post #825 by CantSeeColors » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:03 am

I'm getting a distinct Chip Kelly vibe. We'll see how it shakes out though. The bullpen should have been able to hold a five run lead in game one, and all this would be a lot easier to swallow if they're sitting at 2-1 instead of 1-2. Some of the young hitters are definitely having nice starts.
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Post #826 by jester » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:54 pm

CantSeeColors wrote:I'm getting a distinct Chip Kelly vibe. We'll see how it shakes out though. The bullpen should have been able to hold a five run lead in game one, and all this would be a lot easier to swallow if they're sitting at 2-1 instead of 1-2. Some of the young hitters are definitely having nice starts.


I would hesitate to go that far ... but it seems abundantly clear (especially with the BP fiasco) that he needs to get acquainted fast with the in-game crap you have to be on top of as a manager. I also do not like managers that over manage their pitching staffs. If you're going to be yanking starters on low pitch counts with significant leads, you're going to blow out your BP by the end of June.

That being said ... I think so much of managing effectively in MLB is psychological. The ultimate question will be whether the players enjoy playing for him, because that goes a lot further than pretty much everything else.
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Post #827 by Konecny HypeTrain Captain » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:03 am

Chip Kelly had a lot of hype at first though.
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Post #828 by CantSeeColors » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:51 am

Gabe Kapler is getting a lot of hype from the local media too, and it all has to do with challenging all the conventional wisdom and put a huge emphasis on rest, diet, etc. Like I said, we'll see how it shakes out. Chip's downfall was his inability to adapt to anything, and obviously you can't evaluate Kapler on that yet.
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Post #829 by jester » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:24 pm

CantSeeColors wrote:Gabe Kapler is getting a lot of hype from the local media too, and it all has to do with challenging all the conventional wisdom and put a huge emphasis on rest, diet, etc. Like I said, we'll see how it shakes out. Chip's downfall was his inability to adapt to anything, and obviously you can't evaluate Kapler on that yet.


Indeed, and that is what makes it difficult to compare and contrast NFL coaches and MLB managers. Kelly believed he had solved the riddle of football and was smarter than everyone else, and in football that belief system had huge on-field consequence. Kapler seems to be heavy on preparation away from the field, but I have not heard or seen anything that suggests he's re-inventing the wheel in terms of managing games. The problem may be that the mantra in the clubhouse about prep may wear thin fast.
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Post #830 by Kilgore Trout » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:11 pm

jester wrote:[...]The problem may be that the mantra in the clubhouse about prep may wear thin fast.


Yea, seems like he might be an exhausting dude to work for over the length of an MLB season.
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jester wrote:
CantSeeColors wrote:Gabe Kapler is getting a lot of hype from the local media too, and it all has to do with challenging all the conventional wisdom and put a huge emphasis on rest, diet, etc. Like I said, we'll see how it shakes out. Chip's downfall was his inability to adapt to anything, and obviously you can't evaluate Kapler on that yet.


Indeed, and that is what makes it difficult to compare and contrast NFL coaches and MLB managers. Kelly believed he had solved the riddle of football and was smarter than everyone else, and in football that belief system had huge on-field consequence. Kapler seems to be heavy on preparation away from the field, but I have not heard or seen anything that suggests he's re-inventing the wheel in terms of managing games. The problem may be that the mantra in the clubhouse about prep may wear thin fast.

He wants to limit his starters to two times through the order, almost regardless of the number of pitches the guy has thrown; he wants to have a constant shuffle of relievers by manipulating the 10 day DL and getting guys up and down from AAA; he wants to implement heavy outfield shifts, going so far as to swap RF and LF players for certain at bats; and he doesn't seem to be a big fan of slotting RPs into roles. Those seem like pretty drastic changes to me.
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Post #832 by vonbonds » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:21 am

He sounds so smart that he’s an idiot
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CantSeeColors wrote:
jester wrote:
CantSeeColors wrote:Gabe Kapler is getting a lot of hype from the local media too, and it all has to do with challenging all the conventional wisdom and put a huge emphasis on rest, diet, etc. Like I said, we'll see how it shakes out. Chip's downfall was his inability to adapt to anything, and obviously you can't evaluate Kapler on that yet.


Indeed, and that is what makes it difficult to compare and contrast NFL coaches and MLB managers. Kelly believed he had solved the riddle of football and was smarter than everyone else, and in football that belief system had huge on-field consequence. Kapler seems to be heavy on preparation away from the field, but I have not heard or seen anything that suggests he's re-inventing the wheel in terms of managing games. The problem may be that the mantra in the clubhouse about prep may wear thin fast.

He wants to limit his starters to two times through the order, almost regardless of the number of pitches the guy has thrown; he wants to have a constant shuffle of relievers by manipulating the 10 day DL and getting guys up and down from AAA; he wants to implement heavy outfield shifts, going so far as to swap RF and LF players for certain at bats; and he doesn't seem to be a big fan of slotting RPs into roles. Those seem like pretty drastic changes to me.


He will not be the first manager to overwork the pen, etc. Perhaps on the extreme end of the spectrum, but not a new wheel.
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Post #834 by CantSeeColors » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:59 pm

Doing it because you don't think starters should go through the order more than twice is new, and it burned them again today
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Post #835 by Sweet Dee » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:35 pm

Cant wait to freeze my ass of tomorrow. Hope we can turn things around.
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Post #836 by FlyHigh » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:18 am

Is that an actual thing? He's automatically yanking his starter after 2x through the order, regardless of any other information?

That does sound quite Chip Kelly-ish.
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Post #837 by CantSeeColors » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:35 pm

FlyHigh wrote:Is that an actual thing? He's automatically yanking his starter after 2x through the order, regardless of any other information?

That does sound quite Chip Kelly-ish.

It's not ironclad, but it's pretty widely reported that that's a thing he values, and he's yanked Nola after 5.1 innings, 68 pitches, one run in game one and 5 innings, 87 pitches, two runs in game two for that reason. Relievers came in and gave up runs in the next inning both times (losing both games). Hindsight is 20/20, but Nola is your current #2 and future #1, so you have to trust him to get some outs and develop the ability to get through some hitters for the third time unless you want your pen pitching four innings every single game.
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Post #838 by CantSeeColors » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:16 pm

Pivetta pulled with two outs in the sixth today, despite giving up zero runs, striking out nine, only being on 97 pitches, and getting his last batter out. The natives got pretty damn restless when Kapler walked out.

Morgan thankfullly got the next guy out and closed out the inning this time, but geez, why not see if Pivetta can get the final guy? At some point you really need to take the kid gloves off the starters.
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Post #839 by Konecny HypeTrain Captain » Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:22 am

8-5? Kapler is re-writing the books on how to manage with this young squad we might not lose a game the rest of the year. For real though it's always great to see a lot of young guys getting some game time.
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Post #840 by Konecny HypeTrain Captain » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:51 am

The Phanatic is establishing dominance at CBP. Sent some lady to the ER with his hot dog cannon.
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Post #841 by vonbonds » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:45 pm

Konecny HypeTrain Captain wrote:The Phanatic is establishing dominance at CBP. Sent some lady to the ER with his hot dog cannon.

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Post #843 by Sweet Dee » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:33 pm

So how 'bout them Fightin's?
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Post #844 by jester » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:30 pm

Sweet Dee wrote:So how 'bout them Fightin's?


They're fun again!

Couldn't happen at a better time, too. Not going to be hard to sell FAs on the idea that this is a team on the rise, which sweetens the boatloads of cash the Phils have to spend.
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Post #845 by Konecny HypeTrain Captain » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:09 pm

So yeah Phillies and shit

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