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Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:56 pm
by jester
FlyHigh wrote:I'm curious why they're dumping Manning unless Hextall has decided that Hak can't be trusted with him. Think Manning got overplayed, but you could do a lot worse for a No.7. Wonder if his asking price was too high or if he wants to go to a place where he'll have a guaranteed spot.


Morin is no longer waiver exempt next year, so he will almost certainly be on the roster out of camp.

(And, I see, already answered.)

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:10 pm
by Hovercraft
That is not what he said according to others. Filppula might be back, but it would be post July 1 and depending on other moves. Basically, he sounds like Plan B or C.

Yeah I see Bill's interpretation now. Looks like Hex views Flip as a backup if he can't get another C in UFA/trade. That's not so bad then.

FlyHigh wrote:I'm curious why they're dumping Manning unless Hextall has decided that Hak can't be trusted with him. Think Manning got overplayed, but you could do a lot worse for a No.7. Wonder if his asking price was too high or if he wants to go to a place where he'll have a guaranteed spot.


7th D men don't average 18 minutes a night, but Manning is redundant with Gudas and MacD signed for a few more years and Morin/Myers close. For Manning himself, he and his agent should be looking to get him the biggest and longest deal available to him in UFA and that would not be with the Flyers anyway. He will get a deal somewhere as a 3rd pairing d man, probably for 2-3mil per year.

Bill is posting Hex and Hak excerpts from the presser:

All assistant coaches coming back, but roles may change.
Hex wants to add a veteran C and bring in some penalty killing help. Sees C> D>G as the order of priority for adding players.
Hex views Frost as a longshot for next year.
Hak specifically called out Laughton as having a great playoff series.

Ron Hextall very much not closing the door on the possibility of Carter Hart making the NHL next season, but get the sense the odds are still slim.
Dave Isaac

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:42 pm
by jester
Lappy coming back is indefensible, imo.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:48 pm
by Hovercraft
jester wrote:Lappy coming back is indefensible, imo.


Yeah I agree. Hopefully the line about shifting roles applies to Lappy at least. Hex and Hak both seem to be fooled by a small sample of good PKing to end the year, which also coincided by the team being very disciplined down the stretch out of necessity.

Hexy on Lappy and PK: We have looked hard at that. We aren't happy with where we are. But I thought we got better late in season and pretty good in playoffs. We will look to add in that area over the summer. I am convinced we will be better there next year, and we need to be.


Hak on PK: Take sample sizes. Not good enough early. We looked at a lot of things. Late in season, final 15 games, we were closer to wheere we needed to be, not quite there. In POs, was one of few areas we did well enough overall to win the series.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:48 pm
by FlyHigh
Ah, thanks fellas re: Manning, Morin and waivers. Hope Manning lands somewhere, kind of like VdV in that they both seem like great guys and underdog stories, but they just got overplayed.

The PK comments are baffling; they were 80% against Pitt, that's not great!

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:15 pm
by GoneFullHextall
Not thrilled with Lappy coming back. hopefully he is given another job in the organization and they bring in a PK coach who has a clue.
If Manning could ever learn to go out and try to more than he can he could be ok as a 6/7. But Hak overused him and many times Mannings bad pinches or positioning got him in trouble.
I agree Flip is not a plan B for bringing back. Think the Flyers may be busy this summer and at the draft. just a guess.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:56 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
Any interest in Evander Kane? I think if they move on from Simmonds, Kane would be a great replacement.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:08 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
People shitting on G for his comments.

I like a lot of what Hexy has said, I still have a lot of faith in Hexy long term as the GM.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:24 pm
by Rogers Pancreas
Konecny HypeTrain Captain wrote:Any interest in Evander Kane? I think if they move on from Simmonds, Kane would be a great replacement.

Watched him quite a bit in his time here in Buffalo, and the guy has a motor that doesn't quit. Pretty low hockey-IQ, though, and I don't think he's ever played a full season.

Personally, I'd rather take my chances on Simmonds.

Konecny HypeTrain Captain wrote:People shitting on G for his comments.

I like a lot of what Hexy has said, I still have a lot of faith in Hexy long term as the GM.

These comments might end up being a whole lot of nothing depending what happens between now and training camp. But I think, so far at least, Hextall's doing what we expected him to.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:46 pm
by jester
Konecny HypeTrain Captain wrote:People shitting on G for his comments.

I like a lot of what Hexy has said, I still have a lot of faith in Hexy long term as the GM.


Partially because Marcus Hayes detached them from context for a column ...

The comments are a case in point of why athletes resort to the safety of cliches. If you offer a bit of uncomfortable honesty, you get raked.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:49 pm
by CantSeeColors
Where's pronger when you need him to lob a few barbs at a media member?

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:57 am
by Hovercraft
Lindblom got 2 goals last night, Sanheim an assist. Myers also had a goal. Phantoms up 2 games to 1.

Probably the strongest the phantoms have been in years.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 9:46 pm
by MiD
Sanheim received brutal knee on knee. Let's hope for bruise...

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 1:05 am
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
Didn't realize Gudas was in the AHL now

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 6:59 am
by Hovercraft


Doesnt look good. Had to be helped up and wasn't putting weight on it.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:00 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
So ugh Sanheim got hurt?

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:34 pm
by Rogers Pancreas
Maybe if we glued Sanheim, Morin and Myers together we could get a healthy player for more than three games. Full games.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:31 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
Getting closer to dropping the fucking puck

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:10 pm
by chaosof99
It's 4 AM and I'm sick, but I am awake and ready for some hockey.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:14 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
That first line should be magic the whole season. In Provy we trust

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:18 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
MacDonald pissing me off already just because he's on the ice

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:25 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
"MacDonald is a good hockey player" Dave Hakstol multiple times

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:26 pm
by FlyHigh
AMac gonna AMac, can’t wait for another year of this.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:29 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
Also Carter Hart would've stopped it

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:38 pm
by Hovercraft
Sanheim to Lindblom on a 2 on 1, not what I expected for the first goal of the year. Nice read by Sanheim to jump up there and Voracek for the initial set up.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:39 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
Lindblom's going to have a big year I think

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:51 pm
by chaosof99
Kind of lucky we got out of that period with the lead, but I take it. Kind of weird how the Flyers broadcast highlighted MacDonald's involvement in the Vegas goal. They tried to play it off as a forced error, but all I could think was that a good defenseman would have recognized that the window for their change had passed (particularly when they're playing the far side from the bench).

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:55 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
It reminded me of the scene from Goon when he comes out of the box and decides to stay on the ice just to get scored on. Elliot would've had a better chance to save a breakaway probably

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:19 pm
by chaosof99
Didn't expect Hägg to score a goal all season. Nice work joining the rush there.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:21 pm
by chaosof99
lol, they're playing Shinsuke Nakamura's old theme.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:22 pm
by Konecny HypeTrain Captain
I thought the Knights were supposed to be good? Going to enjoy going to the cup this year

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:25 pm
by chaosof99
Konecny HypeTrain Captain wrote:I thought the Knights were supposed to be good? Going to enjoy going to the cup this year


I have them out of the playoffs. I might still be wrong, but last year was a whole lot of surprise factor involved and I think teams will be more prepared for them this year.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:41 am
by chaosof99
Excellent game by Elliott. Surprisingly lackluster game by Ghost. Can't fault him on the second goal against too much since he was slashed in the hand, but he also had some bad breakout plays that were immediate turnovers as well.

Anyway, two points well earned.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:28 am
by jester
Definitely going to win the cup!

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:54 am
by FlyHigh
Undefeated with Gritty as well...

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:19 am
by DeadPhish
woo

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:28 am
by Rogers Pancreas
chaosof99 wrote:Excellent game by Elliott. Surprisingly lackluster game by Ghost. Can't fault him on the second goal against too much since he was slashed in the hand, but he also had some bad breakout plays that were immediate turnovers as well.

Anyway, two points well earned.

I thought it was a slash to the hands as well, but it was actually a cockshot.The reaction, understandably, was instantaneous. He couldn't even finish the pass.


Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:23 pm
by FlyHigh
Folin and AMac just complete train wrecks, yikes.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:38 pm
by MiD
why exactly is Folin playing?

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:49 pm
by DeadPhish
Who the hell is Christian Frolin?

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:55 pm
by Rogers Pancreas
Hetall's record in free agency is looking worse by the year.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:11 pm
by FlyHigh
Lmao what a way to get your first.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:40 pm
by DeadPhish
Elliot’s definitely keeping them in the game.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:13 pm
by JLHockeyKnight
MiD wrote:why exactly is Folin playing?


Hakstol: Veteran presence.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:38 pm
by Rogers Pancreas
Oh, JVR, you are quickly entering Gomez territory over here.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:21 pm
by DeadPhish
Couturier is an Alternate Captain now.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:48 pm
by DeadPhish
2 goals on their first 3 shots. Brutal.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:52 pm
by Hovercraft
Macdonald in mid season form already

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:08 pm
by FlyHigh
Really awful coverage by Ghost there, not great.

Re: Philadelphia Wheat Kings 2017-18 GDT!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:12 pm
by Hovercraft
Yeah Ghost has been awful these first couple of games. I kinda wish Hak didn't play him with Provorov but our D core doesn't give many options.