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Post #401 by Slick Nick » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:36 am

Zadina will play next year, I see no reason to why he wouldn't... but I'm all for tanking till 2020
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Post #402 by Mufasa » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:43 am

Could we have an ungoing tank? Playing hockey doesn't seem to be a thing this franchise is good at.
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Post #403 by Retardé S » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:46 am

The dream scenario is

Zadina 50 goals
Drouin 100 pts
Galchenyuk 40 goals

Still finish 27th
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Post #404 by chicpea » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:09 am

Martin Rucinsky was a point-per-game player in his native Czech Lig until 2015, which was three years ago.
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Post #405 by Macbeth » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:43 am

Tanks will be unfathomable with a first line of Lehkonen - Logan Shaw - Johnny Torrice.
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Post #406 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:45 am

Lafrenière-Hugues-Zadina

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Post #407 by Not » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:17 am

There is no way we take the Finn. Zedina or Schev.

Do you think Bergevin has time to wait for a project? If he doesn't get off to a good start - he's done by Christmas.
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Post #408 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:22 am

Which is why he is taking tkachuk.

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Post #409 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:24 am

and I think the guys meant tarding some of our 7 second rounders for another first to draft the Fiinn, not that he would be taken turd overall, Not.
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Post #410 by Retardé S » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:33 am

Do you people not realize Zadina is just better than Kotkaniemi? What is wrong with all of you?
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Post #411 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:35 am

Who’s Kotkaniemi?
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Post #412 by Retardé S » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:45 am

Dog wrote:Who’s Kotkaniemi?

The finn guy
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Post #413 by Macbeth » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:01 am

Could someone settle the shit for me, once and for all : is the lesser Ketchup as good, better, or shittier than the one they got in the land of steers and oil rigs ?
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Post #414 by Twitter bArt » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:17 am

Dog wrote:Who’s Kotkaniemi?



Antii's Uncle's kid
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone

It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.

Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."

...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...

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Post #415 by Twitter bArt » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:18 am

Macbeth wrote:Could someone settle the shit for me, once and for all : is the lesser Ketchup as good, better, or shittier than the one they got in the land of steers and oil rigs ?



there is some suggestion that if his name wasn't Ketchup he'd be a Mike Mike with better hands
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #416 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:29 am

Odds that we tarde Porchetti at the draft for a first? I’d think it would be pretty high.
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Post #417 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:31 am

Titties!
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Post #418 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:32 am

Titties, I’m into hockey now (since Saturday)!
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Post #419 by Twitter bArt » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:32 am

at #3 you take Sven or Zed

You then try to move into the 10 - 15 range and pick up Niemi, Veleno or Hayton (whoever is left available)
If that doesn't work, then you try to make a move with a team that has too many C's and needs some help on the W

The 2nd round you pick up more C's and D's

It really isn't that complex

Hell I'd even trust Mu to run the draft this year
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #420 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:33 am

Twitter bArt wrote:at #3 you take Sven or Zed

You then try to move into the 10 - 15 range and pick up Niemi, Veleno or Hayton (whoever is left available)
If that doesn't work, then you try to make a move with a team that has too many C's and needs some help on the W

The 2nd round you pick up more C's and D's

It really isn't that complex

Hell I'd even trust Mu to run the draft this year


That’s what I said.

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Post #421 by Twitter bArt » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:39 am

i should start reading Dog's posts
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #422 by Twitter bArt » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:40 am

Dog,

can you label your posts with one of these "Hockey Related" or "Long Ass Fido Much Ado About Nothing Post"

KTXBY
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #424 by Twitter bArt » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:41 am

he has a Sevil Button
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #425 by Slick Nick » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:09 pm

Retardé S wrote:Do you people not realize Zadina is just better than Kotkaniemi? What is wrong with all of you?


Felipé is not just better, he's light years ahead of Kotkapopoulos in every single aspect.. it's like the Laine vs Puljujarvi nonsensical debate all over again.
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Post #426 by Macbeth » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:58 pm

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Macbeth wrote:Could someone settle the shit for me, once and for all : is the lesser Ketchup as good, better, or shittier than the one they got in the land of steers and oil rigs ?



there is some suggestion that if his name wasn't Ketchup he'd be a Mike Mike with better hands

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Post #427 by Macbeth » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:02 pm

I'd be fine with Zidane and Villaineux and a Porchetti-less Canadien. :D
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Post #428 by Macbeth » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:05 pm

Problem is Villaineux is slated to go when teams drafting aren't especially looking for a Porchetti-like nonce.
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Post #429 by Mufasa » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:17 pm

Finally! A unilangual Montrealer on the Habs, been a long time!
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Post #430 by Macbeth » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:22 pm

Mufasa wrote:Finally! A unilangual Montrealer on the Habs, been a long time!

Même eux l'haïssent.

Renié par ses pairs.

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Post #431 by Twitter bArt » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:53 pm

NHL.com Mock Drafters

3. Montreal Canadiens

Kimelman -- Brady Tkachuk, LW, Boston University (H-EAST): A big (6-3, 196), skilled linemate to play with No. 1 center Jonathan Drouin is a must in Montreal, and Tkachuk is an NHL-ready power forward.

Morreale -- Zadina: He'll go to the tough areas to generate scoring chances and is a dynamic goal scorer with a quick, accurate release. Zadina won the Michael Bossy Trophy as the top professional prospect in the QMJHL after leading the league's rookies with 44 goals and 82 points.

Lepage -- Tkachuk: The son of United States Hockey Hall of Fame forward Keith Tkachuk and younger brother of Calgary Flames forward Matthew Tkachuk, Brady may not be the most talented forward available but has a unique set of qualities that the Canadiens should find too tantalizing to pass up. In addition to holding his own offensively, Tkachuk brings an intense and gritty style of play.
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #432 by mcphee » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:16 pm

Z sounds like s scorer, condiment sounds like the idea of the player they need
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Post #433 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:25 pm

mcphee wrote:Z sounds like s scorer, condiment sounds like the idea of the player they need


Mcphee’s transformation into mustafa has been so gradual that we failed to notice it until it was too late.

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Twitter bArt wrote:NHL.com Mock Drafters

3. Montreal Canadiens

Kimelman -- Brady Tkachuk, LW, Boston University (H-EAST): A big (6-3, 196), skilled linemate to play with No. 1 center Jonathan Drouin is a must in Montreal, and Tkachuk is an NHL-ready power forward.

Morreale -- Zadina: He'll go to the tough areas to generate scoring chances and is a dynamic goal scorer with a quick, accurate release. Zadina won the Michael Bossy Trophy as the top professional prospect in the QMJHL after leading the league's rookies with 44 goals and 82 points.

Lepage -- Tkachuk: The son of United States Hockey Hall of Fame forward Keith Tkachuk and younger brother of Calgary Flames forward Matthew Tkachuk, Brady may not be the most talented forward available but has a unique set of qualities that the Canadiens should find too tantalizing to pass up. In addition to holding his own offensively, Tkachuk brings an intense and gritty style of play.


Lepage has Svechnikov at 5th

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Post #435 by Retardé S » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:32 pm

Ketchup is hard to evaluate for me. When you look at his production at the NCAA, it's a bit underwhelming, but his team is not that offensive. He was one of my favorite US players at the WJC, made things happen every shift, produced no matter who he was with, looked good with a high end playmaker in Middlestat. He not only protects the puck, but also creates chances down low, which is something the habs could use for sure. The skill, size and power combo is there , and I think the "modern hockey" movement is triggered by the words "grit and character", but grit, character and skill is a sick combo. He's got playmaking ability that's for sure and can score too. He's got the power but also finesse.

The thing is, what is his upside? I feel like he can be a star power forward like his brother will be or a lower end 2nd liner with all kinds of intangibles.

But Zadina is no chump when it comes to that, he can protect the puck and create down low too, just less power in his game. I feel like Zadina, contrary to Tkachuk, is a lock to become an elite scorer.
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Post #436 by Retardé S » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:42 pm

Dahlin
(gap)
Svech
(small gap)
Zadina
The rest
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Post #437 by Retardé S » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:00 pm

Actually Vallestrum and Zadina are pretty close, I just think Vallestrum will take a bit more time.
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Post #438 by Slick Nick » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:18 pm

Retardé S wrote:Ketchup is hard to evaluate for me. When you look at his production at the NCAA, it's a bit underwhelming, but his team is not that offensive. He was one of my favorite US players at the WJC, made things happen every shift, produced no matter who he was with, looked good with a high end playmaker in Middlestat. He not only protects the puck, but also creates chances down low, which is something the habs could use for sure. The skill, size and power combo is there , and I think the "modern hockey" movement is triggered by the words "grit and character", but grit, character and skill is a sick combo. He's got playmaking ability that's for sure and can score too. He's got the power but also finesse.

The thing is, what is his upside? I feel like he can be a star power forward like his brother will be or a lower end 2nd liner with all kinds of intangibles.

But Zadina is no chump when it comes to that, he can protect the puck and create down low too, just less power in his game. I feel like Zadina, contrary to Tkachuk, is a lock to become an elite scorer.


I like Ткачук a lot. Looks like the prototypical western conf player. Big, strong, efficient, not flashy but always doing the right thing. But I also think Zadina will produce more and I think his all around game is underestimated. I can picture a world in which we chose Ketchup because he's the big Center (if they see him as a C) we desperately need.
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Post #439 by Retardé S » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:40 pm

The elusiveness and power coming out of the corner is one of the sexiest skills for me in a forward. Watching Preds vs Jets last night, I kept thinking about how having a player like Tkachuk would be gold in a game like that. Being able to sustain pressure, cycle and create opportunities between the dots is such a huge thing in the playoffs, both defensively and offensively speaking. You wear down the other team, you keep the puck away from your zone and you create scoring chances.
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Post #440 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:41 pm

I feel like something must be done to prevent Bergevin from drafting Tkachuk. Mcphee, do something!
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Post #441 by TittiesNBeer » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:30 pm

Retardé S wrote:Dahlin
(gap)
Svech
(small gap)
Zadina
The rest


Dahlin

(ginormous gap)

Svech

(big gap)

Zadina

(small gap)

Hughes,
Boqvist,
Wahlstrom
Dobson

(significant gap)

Smith
Kotkaniemi
Tkachuk
Bouchard
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Post #442 by Dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:33 pm

That’s like your opinion, man.
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Post #443 by Retardé S » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:01 pm

I don't see that big of a gap between Zadinov and Svechnikov, Vallstrum might end up being as good as Zadina. I see Tkachuk higher and the Ds go Boqtwist, Hughes and Bouchard.

Dahlin
Svech
Zadina
Wahlstrom
Tkachuk
Boqtwist
Hughes
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Post #444 by Retardé S » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:14 pm

Also my potential riser that no one sees coming is Joel Farabee. The couple of times I seen him play, he really stood out. Wouldn't be surprised if he sneaks into the top 10.
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Post #445 by mcphee » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:24 pm

Retardé S wrote:I don't see that big of a gap between Zadinov and Svechnikov, Vallstrum might end up being as good as Zadina. I see Tkachuk higher and the Ds go Boqtwist, Hughes and Bouchard.

Dahlin
Svech
Zadina
Wahlstrom
Tkachuk
Boqtwist
Hughes
Bouchard
Dobson
Smith
Kotkaniemi
. Guess that’s why scouts get paid . I’ve seen Tjazuk make the type of plays that the CH need someone making. Problem is, can he or will he make them often. His skill set may mean he can produce when the play gets tighter, like you say, and it’s been a long time since we’ve had s guy that combines that. I just don’t know if he is what we saw in the wjc

My gut is that if you think Z is a legit offensive player who will add pure finishing ability, and you rate him at 3 , just take him
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Post #446 by mcphee » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:27 pm

Retardé S wrote:Also my potential riser that no one sees coming is Joel Farabee. The couple of times I seen him play, he really stood out. Wouldn't be surprised if he sneaks into the top 10.

Didn’t Artie post a review of him ? I had the same impression
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Post #447 by TittiesNBeer » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:55 pm

Tkachuk was great at the WJC. I had him at fourth after the tournament.

The issue is that he wasn't great at boston college.
Wahlstrom at the NTDP was also just better than Tkachuk was on the same team the year before (even before Jack Hughes joined). Wahlstrom was better at the U18 than Tkachuk too.

I kinda think Tkachuk is overrated on one tournament performance and his brother being in the league, and his dad.
His brother may say that Brady is better, but the numbers show a big edge for Matthew. I've heard this story before... Jared Staal, Valerie Bure, Jordan Subban, Marcel Hossa, all of them had brothers saying that little brother was the best in the family during their draft year. None turned out to be true.

And if you don't want stats, but want the eye test... he's not as good a skater as Matthew. That's obvious watching them both.

Neither are as good a skater as Wahlstrom, who also has amazing hands, and a great shot and release.
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Post #448 by Mufasa » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:05 pm

He's more Jordan than Jared, c'mon.
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Post #449 by TittiesNBeer » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:10 pm

Mufasa wrote:He's more Jordan than Jared, c'mon.


I'm not saying he's Jared.

He's still going to be an NHL player.

I'm just saying that families always hype up the next brother by saying he's the best one to try and pump the draft stock and hype. Its a regular thing.

Tkachuk is a fine pick at 8 or 9, he's good. I just don't see how he is ahead of Hughes, Boqvist, Wahlstrom, never mind a Zadina.
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Post #450 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:16 pm

Welcome home, Bikor. Image
Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.

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