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Post #651 by Macbeth » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:47 am

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This is the kind of people I work with


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Post #653 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:33 am

Slick Nick wrote:What exactly does he do, write the lyrics, the music and post-production? He basically does everything and has someone perform his stuff?


Yes, he's a songwriter/producer, so he pretty much just gives songs to artists for them to sing or works with them in studio. As for his implication in the process, It's pretty fluid, he does everything (or used to), but he's mostly known for his songwriting; He comes up with the melodies, chord progression of songs. When you study him, he has distinguishable melodies, so you either know it's him or someone trying to emulate that. He used to do lyrics too, but that was mostly back in the mid to late 90s with the boyband/bubblegum pop craze. That's why a lot of those songs have corny lyrics, his english wasn't the best. The songs were actually interesting musically speaking, although you could definitely distinguish a formula, they kinda sounded like really over the top tv jingles.

Nowadays, he's more of a production house leader/mentor, so he gets tons of demos by his fellow young songwriters/producers and hops on them when he thinks he can help. He's definitely one of the most respected persons in the music industry, not only because of his palmares, but he's humble and non-egotistical, which is very rare to find at that level. Big names like him always try to take advantage of young musicians' work, but he's apparently not one of those guys.

This is probably my favorite thing he's ever written

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Post #654 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:54 am

Slick Nick wrote:Image

This is the kind of people I work with


:donger:


Tabarnak

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Post #655 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:19 am

Russian people dancing to panamanian folkloric music



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Post #656 by Mufasa » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:51 am

The commentary is amazing.

Que orgullo, le gusta a Los russos!

Dude was clearly ashamed to be from Panama seconds before a handful of white trash Russians started dancing on the music.
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Post #657 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:09 pm

Mufasa wrote:The commentary is amazing.

Que orgullo, le gusta a Los russos!

Dude was clearly ashamed to be from Panama seconds before a handful of white trash Russians started dancing on the music.


Ah ouin? Tabarnak, c'est ben plate ça. :hellyeah:
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Post #658 by Slick Nick » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:45 pm

Ronaldo on fire!
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Post #659 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:47 pm

He's in fine form, Portugal looking dangerous on the counter.
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Post #660 by Mufasa » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:57 pm

Retardé S wrote:
Mufasa wrote:The commentary is amazing.

Que orgullo, le gusta a Los russos!

Dude was clearly ashamed to be from Panama seconds before a handful of white trash Russians started dancing on the music.


Ah ouin? Tabarnak, c'est ben plate ça. :hellyeah:


Il fait juste dire qu'il est trop fier de voir des Russes danser sur sa musique. Le truc de shame c'est moi qui l'a ajouté.
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Post #661 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:04 pm

Mufasa wrote:
Retardé S wrote:
Mufasa wrote:The commentary is amazing.

Que orgullo, le gusta a Los russos!

Dude was clearly ashamed to be from Panama seconds before a handful of white trash Russians started dancing on the music.


Ah ouin? Tabarnak, c'est ben plate ça. :hellyeah:


Il fait juste dire qu'il est trop fier de voir des Russes danser sur sa musique. Le truc de shame c'est moi qui l'a ajouté.


Je pense qu'il y a quand même un brin de comédie là-dedans, il n'y a rien de mal à être fier de voir une partie de sa propre culture exposée et bien reçue à l'autre bout du monde non plus.
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Post #662 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:16 pm

What a strike by Nacho.

Should I make a World Cup fred fellas?
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Post #663 by Slick Nick » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:24 pm

Retardé S wrote:He's in fine form, Portugal looking dangerous on the counter.


Caught about 30 mins durring my break. The ref is going to have a rough day
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Post #664 by Slick Nick » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:25 pm

Retardé S wrote:What a strike by Nacho.

Should I make a World Cup fred fellas?


Only if fids is banned from it
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Post #665 by Macbeth » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:26 pm

Retardé S wrote:What a strike by Nacho.

Should I make a World Cup fred fellas?

Why the fuck are you even asking ?
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Post #666 by Not » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:33 pm

My team is not playing - there is no world cup :crossarms:
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Post #667 by Mufasa » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:42 pm

Not wrote:My team is not playing - there is no world cup :crossarms:


Welcome to my world.
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Post #668 by Craig » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:30 pm

Big Dutch fans?
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Post #669 by Slick Nick » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:32 pm

Not wrote:My team is not playing - there is no world cup :crossarms:


here have a consolation

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Post #670 by Not » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:35 pm

Slick Nick wrote:
Not wrote:My team is not playing - there is no world cup :crossarms:


here have a consolation



Kick a man down when he’s down - that my favorited player of all time - all sports included
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Post #671 by Slick Nick » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:38 pm

I grew up in a very Italian neighborhood, I remember the tragedy very well. The old mens at my dep was crying like a baby after that play, I had a coke that I wanted to pay and he just made a sign like leave, I don't want your stupid money... great memories!
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Post #672 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:42 pm

That was my first mundial, one of the few memories I have of my childhood in Panama is watching this goal on my grandma's old Hitachi

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Post #673 by Not » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:16 pm

I994...drove to New York to watch Italy - Ireland first game. Managed to total my brother-in-laws car in Manhattan before the game hitting a porche driven by a pregnant jap. Had the runs, got sun stroked at Giants stadium, Ireland beat Italy and then took over 10 hours driving the car back to Montreal going 50km a hour because the radiator was damaged...and my daughter got bitten by a dog. Good times :why:

I was alright losing in the final - Italy played over their heads in that tournament. They probably played the best 20 minutes of soccer I have ever seen, jumping to a 2-0 lead in the semi against Bulgaria. Than in total Azzurri fashion sat back and almost lost the game.

Also, the Irish are the best fans in the world, I was expecting a stadium for of Italians in Giant stadium but it was a sea of green and orange. They chanted the whole game. We were sitting amongst all Irish and they we very well behaved - unlike the English.
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Post #674 by Slick Nick » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:20 pm

I think it beats my free coke story
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Post #675 by Retardé S » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:24 pm

This is why Not is grumpy all the time
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Post #676 by AD » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:09 am

Slick Nick wrote:I think it beats my free coke story


No. :colbert:
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Post #677 by Slick Nick » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:20 pm

FUTURE SHOCK: SOOTHSAYER PREDICTS RADICAL TIMES AHEAD IN ADLAND

http://adage.com/article/cmo-strategy/f ... ns/311843/

"There will be rage rooms where men can act out because they are going to be very angry."


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Post #678 by clawfirst » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:10 am

I assumed you already had one
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Post #680 by Retardé S » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:45 pm

Slick Nick wrote:FUTURE SHOCK: SOOTHSAYER PREDICTS RADICAL TIMES AHEAD IN ADLAND

http://adage.com/article/cmo-strategy/f ... ns/311843/

"There will be rage rooms where men can act out because they are going to be very angry."


:hellyeah:


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Post #681 by Retardé S » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:46 pm

That's about 3-4 Black Mirror episode ideas in one.
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Post #682 by Slick Nick » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:04 am

Thought a lot about the polarization in modern politics lately and came to the conclusion that it was basically globalism vs nationalism thing in various (sometimes unconscious) subforms... typed that in Youtube and found this talk that discusses it at length. Mildly fun fact, he's the author of a book my mother was reading on the plane and she gave his new book to my bofrey, yesterday.

The basic idea is that the polarization we see is not really a left right issue, or simply a urban/rural divide.. but it's nationalism vs globalism epitomized by the extremes: alt rights main concern being majooz want to destroy the white mens vs far left wanting a total suppression of any collective identity (no borders, no race, no gender, no qualitative distinction between anyone).

It's an interesting talk but the author stays very evasive when confronted with the most important questions: how will communities conserve their identities in a globalized world? Will the less developed states have a say in the new global leadership?

a lot of food for thought in any case..

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Post #683 by Dog » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:36 am

See, I don’t think individual rights, globalism or liberalism destroys “community” in any real sense. In fact, I think it fosters it.

What it can attack is old tribal lines and definitions. However, a sense of community needs not be based on that. In fact, it’s reductive and exclusionary and largely acts by strenghtening the bonds within a group by contrasting it with others (or other ideas). That leads to inter group conflict, even if it can increase intra group identity/cohesion.

What you want is a community that is as large and peaceful as possible. For that, you need to be open to and tolerant of difference. Individual rights aren’t the destroyers of communities, they are the foundation of “wider” communities. They promote respect for each individual, as he/she is, and that respect in turn fosters tolerance and cooperation within a much larger and more diverse group.
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Post #684 by Dog » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:50 am

And I do think that very much ties in with the urban/rural divide. People used to smaller, tigher, more homogeneous communities thinking opening up norms and accepting difference “tears society apart”.
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Post #685 by Slick Nick » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:19 am

Dog wrote:See, I don’t think individual rights, globalism or liberalism destroys “community” in any real sense. In fact, I think it fosters it.

What it can attack is old tribal lines and definitions. However, a sense of community needs not be based on that. In fact, it’s reductive and exclusionary and largely acts by strenghtening the bonds within a group by contrasting it with others (or other ideas). That leads to inter group conflict, even if it can increase intra group identity/cohesion.

What you want is a community that is as large and peaceful as possible. For that, you need to be open to and tolerant of difference. Individual rights aren’t the destroyers of communities, they are the fundation of “wider” communities. They promote respect for each individual, as he/she is, and that respect in turn fosters tolerance and cooperation within a much larger and more diverse group.


I don't agree that local cohesion leads to conflicts.. there are plenty of smaller communities (regions) inside a large community (say a state) and they don't enter in conflict with each other, as long a they have a shared story to believe in (and that central authority is not tyrannical). What's the shared story of the European Union again? And what will be the shared story of World Union? I'm also sure you can be very open and tolerant while conserving a strong national identity. If anything, the last 70 years in the West prove it, we only now begin to see bouts of violence and animosity, in the exact same moment that Western states enter a phase of degradation of their collective identities. Again, as a society, you can be very welcoming while affirming your values... multiculturalism has gotten that all wrong, the migrating minority should wear the burden of integrating to the larger population, not the opposite. It's a retro-action process, but with a leading pole. What we see now, are large soulless bureaucratic/corporate entities that have nothing to offer other than a standard of living... it's not enough, we don't belong to GDPs. One of the most fundamental need in a human is the sense of belonging.. and we're seeing now that you can't belong to a potpourri of generic values... Imo, the melting pot concept was a much better fit. It didn't keep minorities from impacting their new country, but it made sure that a shared story was told.
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Post #686 by Mufasa » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:21 am

I'm pretty sure globalism and neo-liberalism are destroying communities Dog, I don't see how you can defend this point.
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Post #687 by Dog » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:14 am

Mufasa wrote:I'm pretty sure globalism and neo-liberalism are destroying communities Dog, I don't see how you can defend this point.


I think this is a big part of what is going on. People conflate liberalism with neo-liberalism with globalism and throw the baby out with the bath water when they discredit the neo-lib policies of the 90s and warly 00s that culminated in 2008. Those 3 terms aren’t synonyms. They represent different concepts. They can intersect and they can exist independently.

Lets talk definitions again, because I think the key is in disentangling the concepts and being more surgical as to what needs fixing and what needs keeping.

Liberalism: a political philosophy whose basic tenent is the belief in the need for individual space, where people can be and belief what they want, so long as the doesn’t harm others. At one extreme it can deny the collective and focus only on the individual. At the other, it can support individual space, within reason, because and to foster collective welbeing and promote human development (ie. the idea that you have to be tolerant and give people space because you believe that (a) it promotes peace within a larger group (forcing harmonization to the norm will result in dominance/oppression and conflict) and (b) fundamentally diversity is good -it fosters creativity and development.

Neoliberalism: a laissez-faire economic philosophy. Belief that free markets are the best and the goal is to limit restrictions on the free market as much as possible. This marries in with the first “extreme” of liberalism I described above. It is championed by both conservatives (thatcher, reagan) and liberals (clinton, blair). I do not ascribe to this line of economic thinking, I think it was largely discredited in 2008 and elites that push it are receiving blowback. Personally, I don’t believe any economic policy is right at all times and places. I believe current wealth disparity calls for much more redistributive economic policies. Liberalism isn’t about neoliberalism. Liberalism is very compatible with center-left concepts of the “welfare state” and Keynesian economics. In fact, from the post war years until the 80s this is precisely what liberal leaders championed. The stagnation/stagflation of the 70s brought an end to that era. The crisis of 2008 brought an end to neolib. There is no holy grail economic policy for all places and all times. You have to adjust. Right now, I think the world needs adjusting towards redistributive policies (and that is very compatible with liberalism).

Globalization: another big term that we can discuss from different angles, such as economic and culture effects. Economics is tied in with free trade. My take on that is that trade increases productivity and thus aggregate wealth. However, it also concentrates wealth. So, the policy objective should be two fold: 1. Foster trade as it increases wealth and 2. Redistribute wealth as the system concentrates it. This is not much different than discussions on capitalism -it’s largely siscussing it at a global scale vs national scale. The effects are fairly similar in both instances, though. Culture, I have less sympathy for would be cultural imperialists. Again, I believe in strenght and benefits of diversity and that a tolerant approach is the key to both foster cooperation and harmony within a wider society and to foster cultural innovation and advancement.

I do draw the line at one point and that is illiberal policies. Liberalism can be destroyed by illiberal policies and practices and tolerance of intolerance and illiberalism can lead to the fall of liberalism itself -which I think would be a very bad thing.

What’s the alternatives to liberalism? By definition it would be a form of increased central authority that aims to enforce homogeneity. That could come from either the right or the left. I’m warry of both.

I basically think that we don’t need strong mens. We can be adults. We can create a system in which individuals are respected and left with maximum personal space, but not as an end in of itself but in the interest of the whole. Shit just works better when people are free and tolerant and collaborate.
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Post #688 by Dog » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:35 am

Slick Nick wrote:
I don't agree that local cohesion leads to conflicts.. there are plenty of smaller communities (regions) inside a large community (say a state) and they don't enter in conflict with each other, as long a they have a shared story to believe in (and that central authority is not tyrannical). What's the shared story of the European Union again? And what will be the shared story of World Union? I'm also sure you can be very open and tolerant while conserving a strong national identity. If anything, the last 70 years in the West prove it, we only now begin to see bouts of violence and animosity, in the exact same moment that Western states enter a phase of degradation of their collective identities. Again, as a society, you can be very welcoming while affirming your values... multiculturalism has gotten that all wrong, the migrating minority should wear the burden of integrating to the larger population, not the opposite. It's a retro-action process, but with a leading pole. What we see now, are large soulless bureaucratic/corporate entities that have nothing to offer other than a standard of living... it's not enough, we don't belong to GDPs. One of the most fundamental need in a human is the sense of belonging.. and we're seeing now that you can't belong to a potpourri of generic values... Imo, the melting pot concept was a much better fit. It didn't keep minorities from impacting their new country, but it made sure that a shared story was told.


I addressed my thoughts on most of this in my post to mustifa. The only thing I’d add is to drill down into nationalism more specifically as that is what I understand to be the main focus of your post.

I agree that humans are profoundly social animals and that group cohesion and belonging are basic needs. I’m not trying to take away group cohesion and sense of belonging. I’m questioning how widely or narrowly the group is defined. Nationalism, especially when you start to define it with references to shared history/myths/language/religion, will tend towards an ethnic definition. I think that is simply too restrictive a group definition. The “problem” with immigration is that it pushes/dilutes that “core” ethnic identity. And people think that’s a bad thing. It’s not. Not if you define yourself and group in broader terms. There is nothing inherently better about one ethnicity over another. It’s like hockey teams. Sure they give you something to belong to, but at the end of the day it’s arbitrary and superficial. Values/philosophy is something I think has more substance, but even here I would tread very carefully. My values are very much of the cosmopolitan and liberal variety. I therefore have much more in common with similar minded people from all over the world than I do with many of my countrymates. Differentiating based on values only enforces national ties to a certain degree and differentiating based on ethnicity is arbitrary. I’m also wary of holding my own values as universally better. Here too I think diversity brings alot to progress. I also think suppression is counterproductive and destructive. Even when I have an issue with something, I will often opt to strategically tolerate it (believing that provoking a confrontation actually increases the resistance).

Personally, I “belong” based on beliefs such as (i) cooperation is sustainable and better for the whole and (ii) there is alot to learn from diversity and tolerance fosters a climate of mutual cooperation within a larger more heterogeneous group and heterogeneity fosters innovation and creativity. There are limits to what should be tolerated, but those limits are far removed -the instinct is to tolerate and foster a sense of community working towards mutually beneficial outcomes.
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Post #689 by Slick Nick » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:34 am

Dog wrote:What’s the alternatives to liberalism? By definition it would be a form of increased central authority that aims to enforce homogeneity. That could come from either the right or the left. I’m warry of both.


That's the whole point....

many centralized authorities with a supranational decision making entity: multi-polarity, diversity, nations, languages, particularisms...
Globalism: one central authority, leveling, loss of languages, cultures, etc...
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whats the avatar Slicolas? I really dont want to guess.
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Susf wrote:whats the avatar Slicolas? I really dont want to guess.


Its what you think it is
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Susf wrote:whats the avatar Slicolas? I really dont want to guess.


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Post #695 by Big Susf » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:43 am

TittiesNBeer wrote:
Susf wrote:whats the avatar Slicolas? I really dont want to guess.


Its what you think it is


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Post #696 by Slick Nick » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:10 am

I was shocked it was so easy': ​meet the professor who says facial recognition ​​can tell if you're gay

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... paul-lewis

click bait title but worth reading.. on AI, atavism and whatnot.
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Post #697 by Mufasa » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:19 am

Slick Nick wrote:I was shocked it was so easy': ​meet the professor who says facial recognition ​​can tell if you're gay

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... paul-lewis

click bait title but worth reading.. on AI, atavism and whatnot.


Don't have time to read right now, but how many years can i still live l'esprit tranquile in the closet????
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Post #698 by Slick Nick » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:36 am

Mufasa wrote:
Slick Nick wrote:I was shocked it was so easy': ​meet the professor who says facial recognition ​​can tell if you're gay

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... paul-lewis

click bait title but worth reading.. on AI, atavism and whatnot.


Don't have time to read right now, but how many years can i still live l'esprit tranquile in the closet????


I have the best gaydar in history of mankind and there's literally no chance you love penises Mu.. sorry.

I'm so good at reading people it sometimes scares me, also tends to modulate my social interactions. What a life.
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Post #699 by Mufasa » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:09 pm

Slick Nick wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
Slick Nick wrote:I was shocked it was so easy': ​meet the professor who says facial recognition ​​can tell if you're gay

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... paul-lewis

click bait title but worth reading.. on AI, atavism and whatnot.


Don't have time to read right now, but how many years can i still live l'esprit tranquile in the closet????


I have the best gaydar in history of mankind and there's literally no chance you love penises Mu.. sorry.

I'm so good at reading people it sometimes scares me, also tends to modulate my social interactions. What a life.


Second greatest compliment i've ever had since my gay friend told me he wasn't attracted to me because he's looking for bottoms.
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