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Post #101 by TittiesNBeer » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:12 pm

Mufasa wrote:BTW this means we're getting Brandy Ketchup, he's Margoulys wet dream.


I hate this management so much
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Post #102 by mcphee » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:21 pm

I can see a deal coming for someone Wayne Simmons like.
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Post #103 by Mufasa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:21 pm

I can't take out of my head this vision of Galchenyuk being a dominating first line center in Arizona. I wish him the worst but it seems every trade Margoulys makes turns to humongous pile of shit even when they don't look bad in the first place.
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Post #104 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:26 pm

Mufasa wrote:BTW this means we're getting Brandy Ketchup, he's Margoulys wet dream.


Yeap.
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Post #106 by clawfirst » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:29 pm

mcphee wrote:I can see a deal coming for someone Wayne Simmons like.

But a white guy whose name sounds right in french. Matteeew Martin or something.
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Post #107 by Retardé S » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:29 pm

I like Brandy, screw you guys :colbert:
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Post #108 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:30 pm

Retardé S wrote:https://twitter.com/StuCowan1/status/1008022918469648384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231008022918469648384


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Post #109 by Mufasa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:31 pm

Retardé S wrote:I like Brandy, screw you guys :colbert:


I love him too.
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Post #110 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:33 pm

I told you guys. I once watched a ch24 interview with margolys and he was all like « moé j’viens de pointe st-charles ou whatever pis j’ai pas d’talent mais l’important c’est l’respect pis l’travail fort pis j’lai appris en mangeant des taloches sa tête » pis d’autre nonesense.

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Post #111 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:38 pm

On the plus side, Baker's going to have a glorious meltdown when the habs draft ketchup.
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Post #112 by Not » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:38 pm

Chucky is 2 years away from UFA status - Domi will still be an RFA after the bridge deal. Long term this will work out just fine.

All the people I spoke to today always wound up saying the POTENTIAL of Chucky. He’s about to start his 7th season - he’s a finished product. The progression is actually going th wrong way.

Scoring - Chucky
Playmaker - Domi
Physicality - Domi
Skating - Domi
Playing in traffic - Domi
Defence - tie
IQ - Domi
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Post #113 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:39 pm

I love how Not can convince himself of anything.

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Post #114 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:41 pm

we basically traded goals and size for playmaking and grit. we needed the former more than the later, but for margolys the trump card is "attitude".
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Post #115 by Not » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:43 pm

Dog wrote:I love how Not can convince himself of anything.

:danson:


Didn’t need any convincing - I was done with Galch. Off-ice issue, dumb as a nail.
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Post #116 by TittiesNBeer » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:44 pm

Dog wrote:On the plus side, Baker's going to have a glorious meltdown when the habs draft ketchup.


I really will have a stroke and not Bell's palsy.
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Post #117 by Not » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:44 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:
Dog wrote:On the plus side, Baker's going to have a glorious meltdown when the habs draft ketchup.


I really will have a stroke and not Bell's palsy.


That would be more efficient than a ban :danson:
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Post #118 by Mufasa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:47 pm

I'll give it to Not, Galch is a doofus.
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Post #119 by Retardé S » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:51 pm

Dog wrote:we basically traded goals and size for playmaking and grit. we needed the former more than the later, but for margolys the trump card is "attitude".

Meh, Galch played like a pansy most of the time.
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Post #120 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:52 pm

Mufasa wrote:I'll give it to Not, Galch is a doofus.


On this we can all agree.
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Post #121 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:52 pm

Retardé S wrote:
Dog wrote:we basically traded goals and size for playmaking and grit. we needed the former more than the later, but for margolys the trump card is "attitude".

Meh, Galch played like a pansy most of the time.


Sure, that’s why I wrote size and gave the grit to Domi. Galch didn’t shrink.
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Post #122 by Mufasa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:53 pm

For sure we got the better mens. They got the better player.
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Post #123 by Retardé S » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:54 pm

Dog wrote:
Retardé S wrote:
Dog wrote:we basically traded goals and size for playmaking and grit. we needed the former more than the later, but for margolys the trump card is "attitude".

Meh, Galch played like a pansy most of the time.


Sure, that’s why I wrote size and gave the grit to Domi. Galch didn’t shrink.


Yeah but size isn't a quality when the player is soft as butter. One other thing I do believe Galch has over Domi is Galch is a better PP player.
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Post #124 by Mufasa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:55 pm

Galchenyuk was good looking but I think Domi is a bit more beautiful. Fits my theory.
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Post #125 by Retardé S » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:57 pm

Galchenyuk has an underrated stick checking game though, he wont separate guys from the puck with his body, but he can use his stick well. The key with him is moving his feet and winning foot races. If he does that like he did more regularly at the end of this season, he's actually useful.
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Post #126 by Not » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:57 pm

Mufasa wrote:For sure we got the better mens. They got the better player.


Disagree

Player with more natural talent - but not the better hockey player
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Post #127 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:57 pm

Galch is a floater, 20-35 goal winger with some size. Killer shot, skillz and dumb as fuck. Just so happens we need scorers more than anything else.

Domi is a hard worker, 10 goal scoring playmaking winger with grit. Redundant with Drouin on the small playmaking winger side. Redundant with Gallagher on the small gritty winger side. Redundant.

On a needs basis, this makes little sense. The tarde is all about upgrade on « attitude ».

Christ, this isn’t complicated, guys! It’s not like trying to figure mcphee’s brain out.
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Post #128 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:01 pm

But maybe attitude matters more than I give it credit for. Still odd to go for a small playmaking winger. Really not our need.

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Post #129 by mcphee » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:07 pm

Dog wrote:we basically traded goals and size for playmaking and grit. we needed the former more than the later, but for margolys the trump card is "attitude".

Dog, are you familiar with Domi's game ?
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Post #130 by Retardé S » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:09 pm

The thing is, the trade depends on what they do after because we certainly lost goal scoring ability. However, I can fully get on board with trading Galchenyuk because he's a floater who just can't hang on to the puck long enough, constantly kills plays and just has really mediocre coverage in his own end. His goalscoring was very valuable to us, but in terms of other stuff that's needed to be accomplished on the ice, he just didn't cut it. Julien wants to play a high tempo, high pressure, responsible possession game, very much like Vegas or his time with the Bruins, and Galchenyuk just doesn't fit that mold.

So yeah, this trade right now doesn't make sense, but it's probably part of a broader vision. Thing is, we've been there many times before with this GM and it hasn't really amounted to jack shit.

Edit: In fact, it has amounted to dog shit. :danson:
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Post #131 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:10 pm

mcphee wrote:
Dog wrote:we basically traded goals and size for playmaking and grit. we needed the former more than the later, but for margolys the trump card is "attitude".

Dog, are you familiar with Domi's game ?


I spent approximately 45 seconds looking at his stats yesterday, mcphee. So, yes.

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Post #132 by TittiesNBeer » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:11 pm

We have more depth at wing than at every other position.

We traded a valuable asset at wing and brought in another winger.

Thats another issue i have with the trade. Its fine to trade chuck. But the move is so lateral and doesnt address needs
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Post #133 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:12 pm

Retardé S wrote:The thing is, the trade depends on what they do after because we certainly lost goal scoring ability. However, I can fully get on board with trading Galchenyuk because he's a floater who just can't hang on to the puck long enough, constantly kills plays and just has really mediocre coverage in his own end. His goalscoring was very valuable to us, but in terms of other stuff that's needed to be accomplished on the ice, he just didn't cut it. Julien wants to play a high tempo, high pressure, responsible possession game, very much like Vegas or his time with the Bruins, and Galchenyuk just doesn't fit that mold.

So yeah, this trade right now doesn't make sense, but it's probably part of a broader vision. Thing is, we've been there many times before with this GM and it hasn't really amounted to jack shit.

Edit: In fact, it has amounted to dog shit. :danson:


No issue with trading galch per say. Issue with getting a small, gritty, playmaking winger who can’t score. Regardless of galch, domi seems redundant on this team.
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Post #134 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:13 pm

I hate agreeing with breaker.

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Post #135 by Retardé S » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:15 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:We have more depth at wing than at every other position.

We traded a valuable asset at wing and brought in another winger.

Thats another issue i have with the trade. Its fine to trade chuck. But the move is so lateral and doesnt address needs


I agree, but Galchenyuk has been on the market for long, I think if Margolys recieved a suitable offer that addressed these needs, it would've happened before this trade. Mcphee brought a good point this morning that deciding to trade a player and then going 'Well this is the best we can do' is bad business. So yeah, management probably has its reasons, but when you make these type of trades repeatedly in a short span, it adds up to nothing because you're trading assets and not addressing pressing needs short term or long term.
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Post #136 by Not » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:16 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:We have more depth at wing than at every other position.

We traded a valuable asset at wing and brought in another winger.

Thats another issue i have with the trade. Its fine to trade chuck. But the move is so lateral and doesnt address needs


Maybe his value was not as high as some thought. Gagnon wrote the following:

Galchenyuk : une bombe à retardement

Parlant de valeur, les fans d’Alex Galchenyuk n’ont jamais réalisé la valeur sur le marché des transactions de leur favori était bien plus faible que celle qu’ils anticipaient.

Le Canadien ne pouvait pas obtenir un centre de premier plan pour Galchenyuk. Bon! Le Tricolore aurait pu le faire jouer au centre, j’en conviens, mais sur le marché des transactions, Galchenyuk a toujours été miné par le nuage qui flotte au-dessus de sa tête depuis son arrivée dans la LNH.

Le talent de Galchenyuk est indéniable.

Mais son attitude l’est moins. Beaucoup moins.

« On est conscient que c'est un ailier »
Ses frasques hors patinoire ont fait la manchette. Et ça, ce ne sont que les événements connus. Bien que l’information n’ait jamais été confirmée par le Canadien ou par son agent Pat Brisson, Galchenyuk a dû avoir recours à de l’aide extérieure l’été dernier pour composer avec ses ennuis hors patinoire. Une décision qui, soit dit en passant, aurait mérité d’être soulignée, car il s’agissait d’un geste d’une grande responsabilité de la part du jeune homme. D’un geste témoignant d’une nouvelle maturité que tout le monde au sein de l’organisation a accueilli avec soulagement.

Mais ce n’est pas tout.

Galchenyuk, malgré ses six années d’expérience dans la LNH et ses 24 ans, répond autant – certains croient même davantage – aux directives de son père Alexander qu’à celles de ses entraîneurs. Après chaque match à domicile du Tricolore, Galchenyuk va rejoindre son père hors du vestiaire pour échanger sur ses performances. Témoins réguliers de ces rencontres, les journalistes ont pu voir le jeune joueur être semoncé à plusieurs reprises par son père qui a fait carrière au hockey et dont le seul emploi aujourd’hui est de «parrainer» son fils. Au fil des dernières saisons, des joueurs dont je tairai volontairement les noms, ont souligné que Galchenyuk consultait son téléphone cellulaire lors des entractes pour y lire les observations et directives envoyées par son père lors des périodes.

Un non-sens complet!
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Post #137 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:16 pm

Retardé S wrote:
TittiesNBeer wrote:We have more depth at wing than at every other position.

We traded a valuable asset at wing and brought in another winger.

Thats another issue i have with the trade. Its fine to trade chuck. But the move is so lateral and doesnt address needs


I agree, but Galchenyuk has been on the market for long, I think if Margolys recieved a suitable offer that addressed these needs, it would've happened before this trade. Mcphee brought a good point this morning that deciding to trade a player and then going 'Well this is the best we can do' is bad business. So yeah, management probably has its reasons, but when you make these type of trades repeatedly in a short span, it adds up to nothing because you're trading assets and not addressing pressing needs short term or long term.


Of course. This is why we’ve given up on margolys. He’s an idiot.
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Post #138 by Retardé S » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:18 pm

Dog wrote:
Retardé S wrote:The thing is, the trade depends on what they do after because we certainly lost goal scoring ability. However, I can fully get on board with trading Galchenyuk because he's a floater who just can't hang on to the puck long enough, constantly kills plays and just has really mediocre coverage in his own end. His goalscoring was very valuable to us, but in terms of other stuff that's needed to be accomplished on the ice, he just didn't cut it. Julien wants to play a high tempo, high pressure, responsible possession game, very much like Vegas or his time with the Bruins, and Galchenyuk just doesn't fit that mold.

So yeah, this trade right now doesn't make sense, but it's probably part of a broader vision. Thing is, we've been there many times before with this GM and it hasn't really amounted to jack shit.

Edit: In fact, it has amounted to dog shit. :danson:


No issue with trading galch per say. Issue with getting a small, gritty, playmaking winger who can’t score. Regardless of galch, domi seems redundant on this team.


I fully agree, the issue for me is that the trade depends on what Bergevin does after...you just can't change the make up of your team with a one on one trade. This is similar to the P.K. trade, the Eller/Shaw swap. We are here again...
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Post #139 by mcphee » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:19 pm

Not wrote:Chucky is 2 years away from UFA status - Domi will still be an RFA after the bridge deal. Long term this will work out just fine.

All the people I spoke to today always wound up saying the POTENTIAL of Chucky. He’s about to start his 7th season - he’s a finished product. The progression is actually going th wrong way.

Scoring - Chucky
Playmaker - Domi
Physicality - Domi
Skating - Domi
Playing in traffic - Domi
Defence - tie
IQ - Domi



27's best run at C was when he played with 67 during the Price injury year. He got to 30, but I remember thinking that you were giving up goals or shots from 67, so where's the advantage ? That streak, and to be fair it was a good 25-30 games, cam in a lost year. Last year, when Galch finished well, and I thought he played his best all around hockey, it was also garbage time. Is that significant ?

If Galch came from a family that stayed in the background, wasn't part of a visible entourage, would things be different ?

I didn't like the deal when I heard it, you fall in love with your players, if they leave you want to feel that something great is coming back.
I thought that either 27 or 67 would go, and it would address a specific need, at least a need that we perceive. We'll know soon enough what happens with Max.

I felt that he would've been gone at the tdl if an extension was agreed upon. His agent becomes a part of all this and Brisson is regarded as CH friendly, is he not ? What this means in terms of movability, I have no idea.
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Post #140 by Slick Nick » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:21 pm

Not wrote:
TittiesNBeer wrote:We have more depth at wing than at every other position.

We traded a valuable asset at wing and brought in another winger.

Thats another issue i have with the trade. Its fine to trade chuck. But the move is so lateral and doesnt address needs


Maybe his value was not as high as some thought. Gagnon wrote the following:

Galchenyuk : une bombe à retardement

Parlant de valeur, les fans d’Alex Galchenyuk n’ont jamais réalisé la valeur sur le marché des transactions de leur favori était bien plus faible que celle qu’ils anticipaient.

Le Canadien ne pouvait pas obtenir un centre de premier plan pour Galchenyuk. Bon! Le Tricolore aurait pu le faire jouer au centre, j’en conviens, mais sur le marché des transactions, Galchenyuk a toujours été miné par le nuage qui flotte au-dessus de sa tête depuis son arrivée dans la LNH.

Le talent de Galchenyuk est indéniable.

Mais son attitude l’est moins. Beaucoup moins.

« On est conscient que c'est un ailier »
Ses frasques hors patinoire ont fait la manchette. Et ça, ce ne sont que les événements connus. Bien que l’information n’ait jamais été confirmée par le Canadien ou par son agent Pat Brisson, Galchenyuk a dû avoir recours à de l’aide extérieure l’été dernier pour composer avec ses ennuis hors patinoire. Une décision qui, soit dit en passant, aurait mérité d’être soulignée, car il s’agissait d’un geste d’une grande responsabilité de la part du jeune homme. D’un geste témoignant d’une nouvelle maturité que tout le monde au sein de l’organisation a accueilli avec soulagement.

Mais ce n’est pas tout.

Galchenyuk, malgré ses six années d’expérience dans la LNH et ses 24 ans, répond autant – certains croient même davantage – aux directives de son père Alexander qu’à celles de ses entraîneurs. Après chaque match à domicile du Tricolore, Galchenyuk va rejoindre son père hors du vestiaire pour échanger sur ses performances. Témoins réguliers de ces rencontres, les journalistes ont pu voir le jeune joueur être semoncé à plusieurs reprises par son père qui a fait carrière au hockey et dont le seul emploi aujourd’hui est de «parrainer» son fils. Au fil des dernières saisons, des joueurs dont je tairai volontairement les noms, ont souligné que Galchenyuk consultait son téléphone cellulaire lors des entractes pour y lire les observations et directives envoyées par son père lors des périodes.

Un non-sens complet!


None of this makes Domi better.
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Post #141 by Mufasa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:23 pm

When I met Galch I was surprised to see how much of a phoney he was. One of my friend who worked at Le journal de Montréal had disastrous interview with him on camera, he's a boufon.

But he was better at scoring goals than Domi.
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Post #142 by mcphee » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:32 pm

By a really unscientific calculation, he seems to have played C about 35-40% of the time. Maybe a bit less. That was last year. I doubt Bergevin addressed this, it's CJ's call, but I can see him at C. I don't know if he knows how to play C in his own end, and I don't know if he moves the puck through the neutral zone or hangs onto it, or if he can play his off wing on occasion , but I know that we will at some point see Tie Domi on RDS.
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Post #143 by Dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:34 pm

Mufasa wrote:
But he was better at scoring goals than Domi.


The bottom line.
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Post #144 by Mufasa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:38 pm

mcphee wrote:By a really unscientific calculation, he seems to have played C about 35-40% of the time. Maybe a bit less. That was last year. I doubt Bergevin addressed this, it's CJ's call, but I can see him at C. I don't know if he knows how to play C in his own end, and I don't know if he moves the puck through the neutral zone or hangs onto it, or if he can play his off wing on occasion , but I know that we will at some point see Tie Domi on RDS.


Keith Ketchup and Tie Domi getting dead drunk and covered in nacho sauce will be the highlight of the season.
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Post #145 by Mufasa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:43 pm

Dog wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
But he was better at scoring goals than Domi.


The bottom line.


Not really, a hockey team is like the real world, overall work ethics trumps sloppy talent.
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Post #146 by Not » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:47 pm

Sure -when there is nothing at stake.

28 playoff games - 4 goals

Also since LA injury

118 GP - 27 goals

Not really giving up much
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Post #147 by TittiesNBeer » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:48 pm

18 goals in the last 2 years

No playoff games
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Post #148 by Mufasa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:50 pm

Mufasa wrote:
Dog wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
But he was better at scoring goals than Domi.


The bottom line.


Not really, a hockey team is like the real world, overall work ethics trumps sloppy talent.


I know that because I'm a sloppy talent.
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Mufasa wrote:
Dog wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
But he was better at scoring goals than Domi.


The bottom line.


Not really, a hockey team is like the real world, overall work ethics trumps sloppy talent.


If Las Vegas has ever thought the world anything, it’s that hard work trumps talent.
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Post #150 by mcphee » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:51 pm

clawfirst wrote:
mcphee wrote:I can see a deal coming for someone Wayne Simmons like.

But a white guy whose name sounds right in french. Matteeew Martin or something.

You're joking but Hyman is a really important player on the Leafs. Yeah, young fans feel it's criminal that supremely talented players get saddled with a plow horse, but it's an old formula that's come back. Mtl has some nice players with some versatility, but they seem destined to use their grinder per line at C. Danault will play high up the lineup, who knows what they do with De La rose. Teams usually have the worker bee on the wing, Mtl may do it at C.

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