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Post #1 by mayoradamwest » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:51 am

Morgan Klimchuk re signs :wow:
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Post #2 by senate » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:53 pm

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Post #3 by mayoradamwest » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:19 pm

Oh... oh my.
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Post #4 by MP » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:42 pm

That's worth a $10 bet...
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Post #5 by mayoradamwest » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:23 pm

Is it?
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Post #6 by Germz » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:13 pm

What would you rather do with that $10, maw?
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Post #7 by Craig » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:58 am

Bet on teams that might win?
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Post #8 by Germz » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:43 am

Marching up and down the square not good enough for you eh. Right, off you go then.
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Post #9 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:13 am

Erik Karlsson staying in San Jose.

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Post #10 by MP » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:36 am

So we get a 2nd?
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Post #11 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:20 am

MP wrote:So we get a 2nd?


In 2021

Also, Duclair stays
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Post #12 by senate » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:20 am

MP wrote:So we get a 2nd?


Yes, in 2021.
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Post #13 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:13 pm

So the haul was...

Tierney, Demelo, Norris, 1st, 2nd? 2nd?
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Post #14 by Germz » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:37 pm

Duclair is absolutely worth a 1-year with this roster, so that's good news.

As with Stone, I'm content to see EK stay in the Western Conference where we don't have to face him very often. Every time I see either of them it's another dagger through the heart. And the extra pick is nice to have.

Time will tell on the term of that contract. Karlsson's sustained a lot of injuries. I've always maintained that he's too brilliant a player for longevity to be a real concern, even if his skating slows down. But now the Sharks have bet big on it.
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Post #15 by senate » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:31 pm

Just to beat on a dead horse, here is why Karlsson the Senators were never going to sign Karlsson: his deal has a NMC and $52 million in signing bonuses, including $10 million in the 2020 lockout season.

Also, McKenzie got it wrong this morning, the deal is $92 million, not $88 million - so an average of $11.5 million per.
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Post #16 by MP » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:22 am

And why we're heading for another lockout.
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Post #17 by mayoradamwest » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:33 pm

At least we have draft picks?
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Post #18 by senate » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:50 pm



With that bonus paid, the Senators would only have to pay Zaitsev $1.5 million this season. Also, Zaitsev doesn't have another signing bonus until 2022.
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Post #19 by senate » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:51 pm

Dorion gave the Rangers a 2nd for paying Brassard's $2 million bonus. I wonder what he will give the Leafs for eating $3 million.
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Post #20 by mayoradamwest » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:27 pm

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Post #21 by Hossa » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:10 am

senate wrote:Dorion gave the Rangers a 2nd for paying Brassard's $2 million bonus. I wonder what he will give the Leafs for eating $3 million.


You called it. We burned a pick on this, again.

I have no idea why on earth we sought out this trade other than to further lower our total financial hit. It wasn't to dump Ceci - we didn't need to qualify him. Zaitsev has a terrible contract and has negative value. Brown is filler - not hard to find guys who could score for 2/3s of a year and be dumped at the deadline. It's like they were determined to waste money on an RHD but couldn't find a way to inflate Ceci's cap hit, so went off in search of plan B.

I would be more likely to respect the strategy if they were transparent about it. But only maybe - the only way this makes sense is as cap manipulation for one year, but that's one of five (5!) years we need to pay Zaitsev. As far as plans go, it's not only discouraging but short-sighted.
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Post #22 by Hossa » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:25 am

We're also signing Ennis and Hainsey for some reason.

There are basically four kind of Dorion transactions, all shedding light on another weakness:

1) Sending out good players who don't want to stay.
2) Bringing in players with inflated cap hits to save Eugene money.
3) Sending out his failed character projects.
4) Bringing in his coach's pet projects.

Is there a substantive deal since the first Duchene trade that doesn't fit into one of those four archetypes?
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Post #23 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:13 am

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Post #24 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:42 am

Hard not to view everything through financials, but in theory just bringing in some vets does seem worthwhile... better than harpur

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Post #25 by senate » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:46 pm

After working a half day for Canada Day, looks like Dorian is taking the rest of the summer off.



Though in all fairness, Melnyk probably doesn’t pay hockey ops during the summer months.
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Post #26 by FH2002 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:20 pm

Ottawa to Quebec City in two years.
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Post #27 by senate » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:06 pm



In a happy coincidence, Chicago just happened to have paid Anisimov's $2 million signing bonus yesterday.
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Post #28 by Ismellofhockey » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:50 pm

Was asked to grab his own name tag and as many pens as he could on his way out of the United Center.
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Post #29 by Muffin Mannequin » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:01 pm

I have nothing else to add to this convo. Welldonethnxguys.
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Post #30 by senate » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:25 pm



Senators adding salary? How can that be?



Oh.
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Post #31 by mayoradamwest » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:26 pm

sweet, we're getting up to having the cash for 1/5th a signing bonus :smuglanne:
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Post #32 by senate » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:00 pm

$20 million difference between payroll and salary cap. That's normal and healthy.

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Post #33 by mayoradamwest » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:32 pm

they're going to save a ton of money this year, and re-invest in the next 5 year plan.
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Post #34 by senate » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:32 am

The Chief Marketing Officer quit or was fired. Either way, she lasted less than a year.
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Post #35 by mayoradamwest » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:18 am

Anyone here applying for the job?
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Post #36 by Muffin Mannequin » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:27 pm

mayoradamwest wrote:Anyone here applying for the job?


I submitted my CV. Since then, I've received multiple calls from Eugene asking me if I need the ducts in my house cleaned. No word on the job yet.
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Post #37 by mayoradamwest » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:06 pm

How are your ducts?

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