Ottawa Senators are tied for nicest smile - 2019 season thread

mayoradamwest · Post #1 by **mayoradamwest** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:51 am

Morgan Klimchuk re signs :wow:

senate · Post #2 by **senate** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:53 pm

mayoradamwest · Post #3 by **mayoradamwest** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:19 pm

Oh... oh my.

MP · Post #4 by MP » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:42 pm

That's worth a $10 bet...

mayoradamwest · Post #5 by **mayoradamwest** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:23 pm

Is it?

Germz · Post #6 by **Germz** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:13 pm

What would you rather do with that $10, maw?

Craig · Post #7 by **Craig** » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:58 am

Bet on teams that might win?

Germz · Post #8 by **Germz** » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:43 am

Marching up and down the square not good enough for you eh. Right, off you go then.

mayoradamwest · Post #9 by **mayoradamwest** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:13 am

Erik Karlsson staying in San Jose.

8x11

MP · Post #10 by MP » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:36 am

So we get a 2nd?

mayoradamwest · Post #11 by **mayoradamwest** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:20 am

MP wrote:So we get a 2nd?

In 2021

Also, Duclair stays

senate · Post #12 by **senate** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:20 am

MP wrote:So we get a 2nd?

Yes, in 2021.

mayoradamwest · Post #13 by **mayoradamwest** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:13 pm

So the haul was...

Tierney, Demelo, Norris, 1st, 2nd? 2nd?

Germz · Post #14 by **Germz** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:37 pm

Duclair is absolutely worth a 1-year with this roster, so that's good news.

As with Stone, I'm content to see EK stay in the Western Conference where we don't have to face him very often. Every time I see either of them it's another dagger through the heart. And the extra pick is nice to have.

Time will tell on the term of that contract. Karlsson's sustained a lot of injuries. I've always maintained that he's too brilliant a player for longevity to be a real concern, even if his skating slows down. But now the Sharks have bet big on it.

senate · Post #15 by **senate** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:31 pm

Just to beat on a dead horse, here is why Karlsson the Senators were never going to sign Karlsson: his deal has a NMC and $52 million in signing bonuses, including $10 million in the 2020 lockout season.

Also, McKenzie got it wrong this morning, the deal is $92 million, not $88 million - so an average of $11.5 million per.

MP · Post #16 by MP » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:22 am

And why we're heading for another lockout.

mayoradamwest · Post #17 by **mayoradamwest** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:33 pm

At least we have draft picks?

senate · Post #18 by **senate** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:50 pm

With that bonus paid, the Senators would only have to pay Zaitsev $1.5 million this season. Also, Zaitsev doesn't have another signing bonus until 2022.

senate · Post #19 by **senate** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:51 pm

Dorion gave the Rangers a 2nd for paying Brassard's $2 million bonus. I wonder what he will give the Leafs for eating $3 million.

mayoradamwest · Post #20 by **mayoradamwest** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:27 pm

Hossa · Post #21 by **Hossa** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:10 am

senate wrote:Dorion gave the Rangers a 2nd for paying Brassard's $2 million bonus. I wonder what he will give the Leafs for eating $3 million.

You called it. We burned a pick on this, again.

I have no idea why on earth we sought out this trade other than to further lower our total financial hit. It wasn't to dump Ceci - we didn't need to qualify him. Zaitsev has a terrible contract and has negative value. Brown is filler - not hard to find guys who could score for 2/3s of a year and be dumped at the deadline. It's like they were determined to waste money on an RHD but couldn't find a way to inflate Ceci's cap hit, so went off in search of plan B.

I would be more likely to respect the strategy if they were transparent about it. But only maybe - the only way this makes sense is as cap manipulation for one year, but that's one of five (5!) years we need to pay Zaitsev. As far as plans go, it's not only discouraging but short-sighted.

Hossa · Post #22 by **Hossa** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:25 am

We're also signing Ennis and Hainsey for some reason.

There are basically four kind of Dorion transactions, all shedding light on another weakness:

1) Sending out good players who don't want to stay.
2) Bringing in players with inflated cap hits to save Eugene money.
3) Sending out his failed character projects.
4) Bringing in his coach's pet projects.

Is there a substantive deal since the first Duchene trade that doesn't fit into one of those four archetypes?

mayoradamwest · Post #23 by **mayoradamwest** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:13 am

Spezza to leafs

mayoradamwest · Post #24 by **mayoradamwest** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:42 am

Hard not to view everything through financials, but in theory just bringing in some vets does seem worthwhile... better than harpur

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senate · Post #25 by **senate** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:46 pm

After working a half day for Canada Day, looks like Dorian is taking the rest of the summer off.

Though in all fairness, Melnyk probably doesn’t pay hockey ops during the summer months.

FH2002 · Post #26 by **FH2002** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:20 pm

Ottawa to Quebec City in two years.

senate · Post #27 by **senate** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:06 pm

In a happy coincidence, Chicago just happened to have paid Anisimov's $2 million signing bonus yesterday.

Ismellofhockey · Post #28 by **Ismellofhockey** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:50 pm

Was asked to grab his own name tag and as many pens as he could on his way out of the United Center.

Muffin Mannequin · Post #29 by **Muffin Mannequin** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:01 pm

I have nothing else to add to this convo. Welldonethnxguys.

senate · Post #30 by **senate** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:25 pm

Senators adding salary? How can that be?

Oh.

mayoradamwest · Post #31 by **mayoradamwest** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:26 pm

sweet, we're getting up to having the cash for 1/5th a signing bonus :smuglanne:

senate · Post #32 by **senate** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:00 pm

$20 million difference between payroll and salary cap. That's normal and healthy.

mayoradamwest · Post #33 by **mayoradamwest** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:32 pm

they're going to save a ton of money this year, and re-invest in the next 5 year plan.

senate · Post #34 by **senate** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:32 am

The Chief Marketing Officer quit or was fired. Either way, she lasted less than a year.

mayoradamwest · Post #35 by **mayoradamwest** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:18 am

Anyone here applying for the job?

Muffin Mannequin · Post #36 by **Muffin Mannequin** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:27 pm

mayoradamwest wrote:Anyone here applying for the job?

I submitted my CV. Since then, I've received multiple calls from Eugene asking me if I need the ducts in my house cleaned. No word on the job yet.

mayoradamwest · Post #37 by **mayoradamwest** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:06 pm

How are your ducts?

senate · Post #38 by **senate** » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:45 pm

The Senators actually sign someone to a long term contract.

I thought backloaded deals were out of fashion in the NHL, but whatever.

senate · Post #39 by **senate** » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:20 pm

Also, no signing bonuses.

MP · Post #40 by MP » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:40 pm

Seems a lot of monies for a player that hasn't really established himself yet?

mayoradamwest · Post #41 by **mayoradamwest** » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:56 pm

MP wrote:Seems a lot of monies for a player that hasn't really established himself yet?

New reality? With all the rfA holdouts I think we are seeing the same thing as in baseball - pay for youth and screw the old folks.

That said, what is chabot worth in this comparison of value?

Craig · Post #42 by **Craig** » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:18 am

Bet he gets traded in the summer of 2024.

senate · Post #43 by **senate** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:49 pm

The rookie tournament roster is out. 7 of the 9 defencemen are tryouts.

mayoradamwest · Post #44 by **mayoradamwest** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:29 pm

NCAA players can’t participate and Thomson is already playing in Sweden?

Germz · Post #45 by **Germz** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:08 am

Dorion: "I think the worst is behind us. I've said that many times."

https://www.tsn.ca/sens-aim-to-transiti ... -1.1363588

senate · Post #46 by **senate** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:58 pm

Losing Chabot for next to nothing will be a step up for losing Stone, Duchene, and Karlsson for next to nothing. So I guess Dorion is right, the worst is behind us.

senate · Post #47 by **senate** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:01 pm

The training camp roster for any Sens broads still alive out there.

Ricard_Persson · Post #48 by **Ricard_Persson** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:09 pm

It actually should be watchable soon. You have to say, they have a really solid plan with the load up of young guys. The depth there rivals the best point in franchise history (late 90's) in terms of kids to watch. Should be more quality next year as well. Last season was really the bottom. We'll look back as the Boucher years as such a transition. Even him as a coach, almost getting to the finals to pretty much dead last back to back years later. Kinda wild. Not going to sound like a marketer, but this team will give you more enjoyment than you've had in years as we move forward.

It was dark days the last couple seasons. Just look as some depth guys that had roster spots. It was bad. And they'll lose a ton of games this year but it will still feel better knowing that each month will be slightly better.

If they can sign Chabot long term, they'll double their season ticket base in under six months.

senate · Post #49 by **senate** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:59 pm

The NHLPA declined to reopen the CBA, so it will stay in effect until 2022. Which means signing bonuses are here to stay. So the Senators are (more) fucked.

mayoradamwest · Post #50 by **mayoradamwest** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:18 pm

A hockey game

Max lajoie opens the scoring

Couple breakaways, Balcers has been noticeable to me, as has the bad D

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