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2020 Draft

Post #1 by MP » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:48 am

Might as well start a thread about the only thing to look forward too.

The collapse of the Sharks might land us 2 lotto picks...
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #2 by Hossa » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:17 pm

It probably can't be overstated how important it will be to land one of Lafreniere or Byfield. We have a lot of good young forwards, but we don't have that elite guy. Given that 2021 doesn't really have one of those yet, and that we may have an empty building if this team isn't at least moderately competitive by 2022, one of those top two guys is an opportunity we can't miss in 2020.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #3 by mayoradamwest » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:05 pm

Who is worth reading about next year’s prospects at this point?
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #4 by MP » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:27 pm

Hossa wrote:It probably can't be overstated how important it will be to land one of Lafreniere or Byfield. We have a lot of good young forwards, but we don't have that elite guy. Given that 2021 doesn't really have one of those yet, and that we may have an empty building if this team isn't at least moderately competitive by 2022, one of those top two guys is an opportunity we can't miss in 2020.

I'm thinking we should get both of those guys. Picking 1 & 2 after last year's debacle is only fair.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #5 by Hossa » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:24 am

mayoradamwest wrote:Who is worth reading about next year’s prospects at this point?


Pronman and Wheeler are solid coverage, if you have The Athletic. Both particular, but comprehensive.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #6 by mayoradamwest » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:01 pm

I’m kinda curious how previous rebuilds have gone for successful teams, just for comparisons sake.

At the moment I’d think finding Chabot and Tkachuck is a huge start, and eliminates some need for 2 Crosby’s so to speak.

From a quick glance at who’s available, considering the forward depth 2 solid scorers would be quite something even without a LaFreniere
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #7 by MP » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:37 am

Batherson-Lafreniere-Tkachuk
Byfield-Formenton

Chabot-Brannstrom

All 21 or younger, would be a pretty good starting point for a rebuild. I'm now rooting for SJ to continue to suck.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #8 by mayoradamwest » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:46 pm

I don’t believe their luck is that good. Still, getting say the 4th and 12th overall would still be quite useful.


It seems like across the league, just having 4 lines of legitimate players is a huge advantage. With the quantity of prospects, it does seem that before the next draft comes the team has a lot of likely of low tier 2nd line or high tier 3rd line players coming in


Just have to avoid the Edmonton problem
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #9 by Ricard_Persson » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:27 pm

I'm afraid this team is too good to finish last. They're actually playing well, especially with Nillson in the net.

Its worrisome.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #10 by mayoradamwest » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:09 am

Per TSN’s Frank Seravelli, a GM is being quoted as saying pageant could fetch a 1st and a prospect in which case, I don’t know how you could say no.

4th, 14th, and 24th overall? Especially having 2nds, wonder if they can squeeze out one more 1st
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Post #11 by MP » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:49 pm

I think Pageau and Anderson might return us something, and if we can off load Boedker, Namestnikov and Hainsey for anything you do it.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #12 by mayoradamwest » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:40 pm

I don’t think anyone will give up anything for Anderson, though he is the best Sens goalie of all time.

Still, there are a lot of opportunities for solid pickups.

Just having legitimate NHLers goes a long way in the cap era, and somewhat like the blue jays rebuild I think Ottawa has raised the floor with their prospects.

I need to look at a few other rebuilds, curious how the currently acquired pieces compare to successful rebuilds.

And random thought - Nick Paul became an NHLer, never thought I’d see that.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #13 by Hossa » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:35 am

MP wrote:I think Pageau and Anderson might return us something, and if we can off load Boedker, Namestnikov and Hainsey for anything you do it.


Again, Dorion needs to sell intelligently. We can't offload all our contracts or we risk dipping below the floor, so we can really only sell a couple guys unless we have salary coming back, which is probably not worth it for the kind of return we'd get for Boedker, Hainsey or Boro.

Of course, if anybody thought Boedker was an NHLer at this point, I'm guessing he'd have been flipped already. Hard to believe he's only 29, he's done. You also have to figure they buy out Bobby Ryan in the summer at this rate.

Namestnikov and DeMelo will be interesting decisions. They aren't likely to get the kind of return Pageau might, but are young and useful enough to keep around.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #14 by mayoradamwest » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:46 pm

Someone tell pageau to knock it off?
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #15 by MP » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:18 pm

I agree, trade his ass now!
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #16 by mayoradamwest » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:19 am

They aren’t finishing last.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #17 by MP » Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:12 pm

Shut yo mouth!
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #18 by mayoradamwest » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:38 pm

Need to do a comparison, curious how you can compare fully rebuilt teams who started with pieces like Chabot, Tkachuk, and what they currently have
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #19 by mayoradamwest » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:24 pm

Philosophical q - how far apart are Jack Eichel
and B Tkachuk in what you’d want in a young forward?
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #20 by ColinM » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:28 am

mayoradamwest wrote:Need to do a comparison, curious how you can compare fully rebuilt teams who started with pieces like Chabot, Tkachuk, and what they currently have


How close are Chabot and Tkachuk to Kane and Toews circa 2008?
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #21 by mayoradamwest » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:45 pm

ColinM wrote:
mayoradamwest wrote:Need to do a comparison, curious how you can compare fully rebuilt teams who started with pieces like Chabot, Tkachuk, and what they currently have


How close are Chabot and Tkachuk to Kane and Toews circa 2008?


It’s a good question. Trying to think of a few of those, of course it isn’t just that. Mcdavid and draisatl for example might be arguably better.

Hawks had Keith-sea brook, byfuglien once (might have just played forward for em? And then hossa etc..,

If you take projected ceilings? Chabot and Brannstrom look like high end 1st pairing guys, kinda reminds me Nashville as an organization... great d depth, but not sure who’s going to score exactly. Ton of guys look like decent bets for good 2nd liners, if you add in the next 1st rd picks then you’d hope to snag 2 first line forwards with them but is that possible?

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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #22 by Craig » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:51 pm

McDavid and Draisatl *might* be better? The guys 1-2 in scoring in the NHL are arguably better.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #23 by mayoradamwest » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:54 pm

Craig wrote:McDavid and Draisatl *might* be better? The guys 1-2 in scoring in the NHL are arguably better.


Than toews and kane at their peaks? They won a few cups...
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Post #24 by Craig » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:22 pm

Oh, sorry, I thought you meant than Tkachuk and Chabot.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #25 by mayoradamwest » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:01 pm

Apology accepted.
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Re: 2020 Draft

Post #26 by mayoradamwest » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:19 pm

But seriously, that’s part of the problem in trying to peg individual pieces. Macdavid and draisatl are possibly better than Toews and Kane in their time, but got left on their own

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