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Post #451 by sensdiehard » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:00 am

He's UFA? I guess it's that group 6 type, where we've had him on contract for 3 years but he never got a full season in the nhl in that time since we had him in the minors. So he gets group 6 to prevent teams from hiding players too long in the minors. Still, we should have the best shot at signing him to take over the Andre Benoit role we lost maybe?
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Post #452 by ben. » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:01 am

King Clancy wrote:How is Wideman a ufa?


He is a Group 6 UFA as he is player who has reached age 25, who has 3 accrued years of professional experience (that is, beyond junior or collegiate hockey), and whose contracts have expired, but has played less than 80 NHL games.

The only thing I am not too too sure is that Group 6 players have to elect to become UFA's. Don't know what that means exactly. I assume that if he does not elect, he becomes RFA and it opens up a longer negotiation period.
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Post #453 by RTWAP » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:52 pm

King Clancy wrote:Are we still thinking of Ceci as an offensive defenseman?

He can skate and he can carry the puck up ice, but I don't see much more than 20-25 points out of him. Maybe 30. More like a Chris Philips type, really. Not that there's anything wrong with that.


Chris Phillips plus, at least. But his basic toolset (and brain) are good enough to be a lot more. He's legitimately fast. He's good to very good at most things. And he's focused on D to start his career, which is the right approach (*cough* Cowen *cough*).
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Post #454 by mayoradamwest » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:54 pm

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Post #455 by i.m. fletcher » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:56 pm

Ceci is similar to Phillips in the way that I can't figure out how they only have AHL shots given their frame.

I still see him as doughty-lite, but it's hard to tell when he's never had a partner who can skate.
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Post #456 by Krazy Tea » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:59 am

Where's Brian Lee in our top 25
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Post #457 by RTWAP » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:08 am

Krazy Tea wrote:Where's Brian Lee in our top 25


Probably about 25th on the list of depth defencemen, right behind a lobotomized Jarrod Maidens shifted to D and given a robot brain.
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Post #458 by Hossa » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:18 am

i.m. fletcher wrote:Ceci is similar to Phillips in the way that I can't figure out how they only have AHL shots given their frame.

I still see him as doughty-lite, but it's hard to tell when he's never had a partner who can skate.


Ceci's got quite a good slapshot, and it was a weapon in junior, but he rarely uses it at the NHL level so far.

I still think it remains to be seen what kind of player Ceci is long-term. He's got a pretty broad range of skills and tools, and has almost always had to be the solid half of his blueline tandem. I think he's proven that the style of play he employed in junior (which was very similar to Doughty) was as much by necessity as inclination, and he has clearly dialled back the puck-rushing in the NHL. It's a testament to his hockey sense, and hopefully an indication that there is much more to come.
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Post #459 by Ricard_Persson » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:17 am

I think Ceci will be the second best overall D man in two years passing Methot in value. I like Methot a lot.

He's got a lot of tools, and has played with absolute garbage NHL partners in a top four match-up all the while as what, 20 year old?

He's been looking a bit tired over the last run, but he's got a lot more offence to show. I agree that he's working on playing a safer, yet maybe boring defensive game at this point, gaining trust and game experience.

There's more offence that will come.
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Post #460 by MP » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:20 am

I like Ceci, but I think he tops out as a good No. 3 guy, and may get the 2nd point on the first PP.
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Post #461 by FH2002 » Sat May 09, 2015 12:56 pm

Bruce Garrioch @SunGarrioch · 1m 1 minute ago
O'Connor has agreed to a two-year deal with Ottawa.
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Post #462 by mayoradamwest » Sat May 09, 2015 1:12 pm

After Nashville had success with the 5 defencemem on the ice strategy, I think this is a brilliant one up.
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Post #463 by BlackRedGold » Sat May 09, 2015 1:16 pm

FH2002 wrote:Bruce Garrioch @SunGarrioch · 1m 1 minute ago
O'Connor has agreed to a two-year deal with Ottawa.


Now who says the Sens can't sign free agents?
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Post #464 by mayoradamwest » Sat May 09, 2015 1:17 pm

I thought it was that they couldn't sign good free agents...
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Post #465 by senate » Sat May 09, 2015 1:18 pm

It's actually that they can't sign good veteran free agents.
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Post #466 by FH2002 » Sat May 09, 2015 1:35 pm

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Post #467 by Pancakes » Fri May 15, 2015 10:37 am

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Post #468 by mayoradamwest » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:26 pm

Paul was also recognized in the OHL's coaches polls, winning the Eastern Conference awards for "Best on Face-offs" and "Best Defensive Forward."

http://www.silversevensens.com/2015/6/2/8710559/silver-nuggets-incoming-prospects-to-bolster-the-bsens
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Post #469 by senate » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:12 pm

Tobias Lindberg signed a 3 year ELC.
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Post #470 by Germz » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:02 am

How about the Memorial Cup experience on that 2013 Senators draft class. Lazar, Lindberg and Harpur all played in the tournament. That's 3/4 of the guys that actually played in the CHL.
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Post #471 by RTWAP » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:58 am

Yup. The drafting seems to have continued to be above average.
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Post #472 by ben. » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:37 pm

Talking about draft success, this one is a draft success and asset management failure.

Marcus Sorensen just won the rookie of the year award in the SHL.
https://www.shl.se/awards-2015/arets-rookie

I was always extremely surprised that the organization did not sign him, given how highly praised he was by Anders Forsberg. Leading up to the draft Forsberg had specifically told the Ottawa brass not to travel to Sweden to watch him as he felt he was on no others teams radar at the moment and that he had extremely high upside (Zetterberg light)
http://blogues.lapresse.ca/stlaurent/20 ... eme-ronde/

This might be the cautionary tale of stockpiling too many assets and having your hand forced in not letting prospects the adequate time to develop...hopefully this is won't be the case with someone like Lehner. Who knows, maybe the brass also saw that his game, much like Rundblad would however fail to translate well into the NHL, once his time and space was significantly cut down.

Anyways, for the masochistic, here is his rookie of the year highlight real:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=96&v=aF_U_v_DZyY
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Post #473 by Hossa » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:48 pm

Wasted fourth round pick Tim Boyle leaves his second college in three years to compete for a spot in the ECHL.

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Post #474 by zamboner » Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:33 pm

Matt O'Connor LOL
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Post #475 by Germz » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:21 pm

After losing to Robin Lehner last night, let's feel better about ourselves by thinking about the good year Colin White is having at Boston College. He's leading them in scoring as a freshman. He scored a hat trick in his first game back from the WJC. And speaking of the WJC, he scored a goal and an assist in the bronze medal game, finishing the tournament with 7 points in 7 games.

http://bcheights.com/sports/hockey/mens ... ournament/

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The freshman center dominated in his first game back from the U-20 World Juniors Hockey Tournament in Finland. White tilted the ice every time he stepped onto it, dangling and grinding his way to three goals, one assist, and lots of scoring chances in Boston College men’s hockey 7-3 win in front of a sellout crowd at Kelley Rink.

“I thought he [was] excellent tonight,” Providence (13-3-3, 4-1-2 Hockey East) head coach Nate Leaman said of White. “ He was the best player on the ice by far. I thought he was making a play every time he got the puck.”

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Allergic to dumping the puck in, White created his first goal by gaining the offensive zone and passing it off to Ryan Fitzgerald before driving the net. Fitzgerald threw it toward the goal, and White redirected it past Friars’ goaltender Nick Ellis.

A Hanover, Mass. native, White uses his dangerous trio of skill, speed, and aggression to create an irresistible wave of energy. Eventually, he takes that energy to such a high level that his talent and grit overcome opponents to the point where it’s impossible for him to not make something happen. Take a look at his assist. White flew down the right wing past Providence’s penalty killers midway through the second period, turned hard toward the net, and fired a cross-crease pass to Alex Tuch’s tape as he hit the ice. He later chipped away at both Ellis and his replacement, Hayden Hawkey, for two greasy rebound goals that topped off his hat trick.

White left the sellout crowd wanting one last thing: he failed to break out his “dab” celebration that dazzled at the World Juniors. Though the Ottawa Senators draft pick said he may be saving it for bigger games, York glowingly declared that “coach is a big fan of the dab,” while patting his star on the back postgame.
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Post #476 by Ricard_Persson » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:13 pm

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Post #477 by TGR » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:38 pm



Smart guy too.
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Post #479 by zamboner » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:51 pm

How about that Nelson Peltz.
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Post #480 by senate » Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:43 pm

Sens prospect Francis Perron got a penalty in a QMJHL game last night so his brother threw a beer at the ref.

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Post #481 by MP » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:43 pm

Nice aim...
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Post #482 by TGR » Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:22 pm

Refs don't wear jocks?
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Post #483 by mayoradamwest » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:22 pm

With a new goalie acquired, I think it's safe to say stiffer, O'Connor, and hogburg must not have worked out.
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Post #484 by MP » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:46 pm

Chabot with a pretty sweet goal.
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Post #485 by TGR » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:26 pm



Can't wait for the Colin White interviews...
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Post #486 by mayoradamwest » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:34 pm

It's craig button, but on tsn's top 50 drafted prospects, Chabot is third and white, brown, and chlapik make the list also.
www.tsn.ca/talent/who-are-the-best-play ... l-1.677389
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Post #487 by mayoradamwest » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:01 am

Colin White Is available.
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Post #488 by Hossa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:51 am

Hogberg got lit up in his first three games in Binghamton, but Bingo is terrible and that doesn't negate his outstanding season in the SEL. Goalies are voodoo, but a big Swede who had success in the SEL is hopefully a solid bet to be effective in the AHL at least.

Will be interesting to see what the organization does in net with Condon, O'Connor and Driedger all free agents. Again, with the caveat that Bingo is terrible, neither O'Connor or Driedger have been able to sustain any kind of success in the AHL, so it's possible neither are qualified and the team goes with Hogberg and Hammond in the AHL, assuming they re-sign Condon or replace him with another back-up.

One way or another they probably need a plan, because Anderson is turning 36 and will be a UFA next summer at 37. Not sold on Condon as a long-term starter, although I'm not sure Scott Darling (as perhaps the most appealing potential long-term starter available this summer) is a safe bet either.
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Post #489 by Ricard_Persson » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:46 pm

I've been thinking about goaltending this season as we watch Anderson in net. It's easy to get used to solid goaltending but also easy to forget that it's rare in the league. We've been spoiled for the last couple years having stability in the net as long as Craig isn't cutting chicken.

It will be hard on the brain and heart if we get a few years with a sieve or sieve tandem after Anderson packs it in.
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Post #490 by Hossa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:04 pm

Ricard_Persson wrote:I've been thinking about goaltending this season as we watch Anderson in net. It's easy to get used to solid goaltending but also easy to forget that it's rare in the league. We've been spoiled for the last couple years having stability in the net as long as Craig isn't cutting chicken.

It will be hard on the brain and heart if we get a few years with a sieve or sieve tandem after Anderson packs it in.


Absolutely. This is the closest we've ever had to stability in goal, which is why this off-season is time to start working towards post-Anderson planning for the sake of potential continuity.

This is especially true because it's actually a good time for goaltending around the NHL. How many playoff teams have major goaltending questions? Calgary, perhaps, and they just got swept. By no coincidence it was the bubble teams that made the playoffs (Ottawa, Toronto, Boston, Edmonton, Nashville) who had good goaltending, while ones who didn't (Islanders, Philadelphia, Carolina, Dallas, Winnipeg) just missed.

Drafting and developing goalies in-house is unpredictable and time-consuming, leaving Hogberg as the only apparent homegrown option, and his track record until this year was underwhelming. We've never been able to develop in-house anyway, although we should still try to add a couple more lottery ticket goalie prospects. It's a pretty good year for goalies and using Calgary's second on one makes sense.

That leaves us with two options, either to go for a 1B signing who has starting experience (eg. Brian Elliott or Ben Bishop again?), or try to acquire an elite backup ready for a starting opportunity (eg. Scott Darling, Phillip Grubauer). Either way, probably good to take a first crack at it this summer.
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Post #491 by Germz » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:22 pm

I agree re: appreciating what Anderson brings in terms of stability.

I also agree that it's time to draft another goaltending prospect who isn't a late-round flyer on a Joey Daccord type.

But I'd be damn surprised if we see anything other than Anderson-Condon again next year, with O'Connor and Hogberg in Bingo. I think right now Dorion figures his priority is to hang on to Condon and then go from there. And I'm not sure I disagree. Anderson is getting on but he's playing great hockey, and Condon has earned another year in the organization.

Truth is I have no faith in Condon long term but I don't expect Dorion to do a damn thing about it for at least another year.

As for Driedger, who knows.
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Post #492 by Ricard_Persson » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:48 am

I'd come back with Condon too. I also don't trust him long term but there was a time many teams didn't trust Craig Anderson long term.

Two skinny weak looking goalies...who knows, I'd at least think you have to bring Condon back, because without him this year both goalies are golfing this afternoon. You have to feed him a carrot.
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Post #493 by MP » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:07 pm

Condon gives me more confidence than Hammond...
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Post #494 by RTWAP » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:00 pm

Having gone through the Hamburglar experience, I would try really hard to keep Condon to a two-year contract.
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Down goes Logan Brown

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