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Post #351 by RTWAP » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:21 pm

Hossa wrote:Van Stralen would be worth a minor league deal to play Bingo/ECHL. Improved a lot over his OHL career. Leblanc and Murphy are also good invitees.

Who is Tomas Kral and why are they bringing him in from the Czech Republic for camp? They couldn't find a shooter tutor closer to home? Is he related to Burda and wanted to fast track a visa or something?

And I assume this closes the book on the Tim Boyle era, two years removed from him being a 4th rounder. That's not surprising, he's a 21 year old who played last year in the USPHL. Most bizarre pick since Brad Peltz.


I still have high hopes for Peltz. They should option him to Goldman Sachs or something. If you're going to draft your next owner then you should at least have a development plan in place for him.
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Post #352 by i.m. fletcher » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:27 pm

I am just hope that Guptill and Paul put us over the top in the prospects tourney.
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Post #353 by Hossa » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:58 am

Tobias Lindberg was drafted in the import draft by Oshawa. The CHL isn't normally a successful route for Swedish player, but Lindberg showed literally no statistical progress last year other than tripling his penalty minutes, so it can't hurt.
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Post #354 by RTWAP » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:53 am

I watched the 5-on-5 scrimmage last night.

Positive Grades:
A+ -- Lazar
A -- Stone, Paul, Guptill
A- -- Ceci
B+ -- Hogberg, Hammond, McCormick
B -- Lindberg, Rutkowski, Dzingel
B- -- Perron, Kramer
The above are mostly based on offensive plays. Claesson probably played great but it's hard to notice solid defensive play unless you focus on just him.

Specific comments:
Gendron looked a little lost a times, and then I realized this might be his first time playing against anyone older than 18. Yikes.
Buddy Robinson is still frustrating to watch. 6'5" and 230lbs, and plays like he's 5'8" and 170lbs.
Puempel is pretty invisible most of the time.
Prince didn't play, despite being listed in the lineup.
Sdao wasn't listed in the lineup, and didn't play. Don't know why.
Wikstrand made a bad pinch, but also some good coverage on guys going wide, and pushing guys into the corner (at least I think it was him, far corner).
Driedger let in three in 20 minutes, but his team was being shelled, and left guys open in the slot quite a bit. It could have been 7-0 based on the defensive breakdowns. I wasn't close enough to see how the goals beat him so I didn't feel comfortable giving him a grade, but if I had to guess I'd say B or B-.
Nic Paul looks big. And his game has everything that's missing from Buddy Robinson's. He's direct.
It was funny seeing Alex Guptill do a slow double-take when he saw a packed arena for a prospect scrimmage in July. I'd estimate about 200 people on one side of the rink and 400 on the other.
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Post #355 by Hossa » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:46 am

RTWAP wrote:Puempel is pretty invisible most of the time.


That's Puempel being Puempel. I watched him quite a few times in junior and he was almost always invisible, but he did often pick up some points. He's just an incredibly quiet player, which is good and bad depending on how you look at it. As long as he keeps producing that's all that matters for now.
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Post #356 by Ismellofhockey » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:21 am

Still it makes it less likely we'll see him called up. One-dimensional players don't last very long in the NHL usually, and I doubt we'll be a good enough team to cover up his mistakes. Richardson seems to be doing a good job with him, so maybe another year will round out his game. He does seem to get into fights from time to time, which is surprising. Maybe that'll be his extra gear.
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Post #357 by zamboner » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:42 pm

Apparently we stole Guptill by only having to give up Spezza.
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Post #358 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:03 pm

zamboner wrote:Apparently we stole Guptill by only having to give up Spezza.


The fools!
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Post #359 by mayoradamwest » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:03 pm

Curtis Lazar won the title of Hardest Working Player in Camp.
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Post #360 by Ismellofhockey » Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:49 am

The Dackell is strong in him.
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Post #361 by NyQuil » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:25 pm

I have a feeling that Lazar will win all the intangible awards.
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Post #362 by RTWAP » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:13 pm

NyQuil wrote:I have a feeling that Lazar will win all the intangible awards.


And his career will be intangibly awesome. Replete with moral victories and near championship-level results.
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Post #363 by RTWAP » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:18 pm

But seriously, I think he'll be a very good second line player in a few years. Good enough to be a valuable piece on a championship team. Now they just need to go get or develop the other 6 important pieces they're missing.
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Post #364 by NyQuil » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:27 pm

Now that we've gotten rid of the core pieces, our supporting pieces have room to shine!

































Wait....
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Post #365 by RTWAP » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:44 pm

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Post #366 by MP » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:02 pm

So Lazar and Nick Paul both scored last night against the Czechs in some summer camp friendly...

That one more goal then spezza has got this summer.
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Post #367 by FH2002 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:01 pm

Getting out of Dodge was the Spezza goal?
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Post #368 by mayoradamwest » Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:43 am

3 goals, one assist for lazar tonight.
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Post #369 by Germz » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:01 am

[SIZE="4"]The Ottawa Senators - a 30-year retrospective (1992-2022)[/size]


The Decade of Yashin - first playoff appearance (1997)

The Decade of Spezza - first Cup Finals appearance (2007)

The Decade of Lazar - first Stanley Cup Championship (2017)
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Post #370 by MP » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:38 am

Germz wrote:[SIZE="4"]The Ottawa Senators - a 30-year retrospective (1992-2022)[/size]


The Decade of Yashin - first playoff appearance (1997)

The Decade of Spezza - first Cup Finals appearance (2007)

The Decade of Lazar - first Stanley Cup Championship (2017)


Alfie should be the middle decade...
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Post #371 by NyQuil » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:35 am

The TSN post-game analysis dedicated some time to Nick Paul.

I'm a little engorged.
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Post #372 by ben. » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:26 am

NyQuil wrote:The TSN post-game analysis dedicated some time to Nick Paul.

I'm a little engorged.


Nick Paul has been getting some TSN TV and Radio coverage lately. I am not sure if it is legitimately because he is turning heads (playing on special teams, using his frame and reach, showing some good feet as they are saying) or if it is a little bit of a content re-focusing going on at TSN to talk more about the Senators and Canadiens now that they secured the rights to so many of their games.

Either way, I am simply happy that we can put behind us the 'Kyle Chipchura' fear when talking of Curtis Lazar. While there was definitely some concern about his scoring abilities when he was initially drafted, I think we can safely say that he has alleviated those concerns. If anything, it showed a lot of character that when he went into a scoring slump during his draft year, he decided to focus more on rounding out his game and learning how to be more of an integral part of his team. In the last few months, he has definitely found an impressive scoring touch and a knack for big time and clutch goals. The TSN analysis today was quite impressive when they showed that after losing a draw that led to a goal, he stayed on the ice and went right back down the ice to tie it up.
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Post #373 by NyQuil » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:27 am

The eyebrow raising statement around Nick was something along the lines of him being 5'7 last year (?) and now being 6'3?

I caught it during Sportscentre but was running out the door so I wasn't sure I heard properly.
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Post #374 by mayoradamwest » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:32 am

NyQuil wrote:The eyebrow raising statement around Nick was something along the lines of him being 5'7 last year (?) and now being 6'3?

I caught it during Sportscentre but was running out the door so I wasn't sure I heard properly.


Paul, was called the “sleeper” in the 5-player deal by Stars GM Jim Nill. He told reporters about his incredible growth spurt that saw him gain nearly 6 inches in one year.

“For my whole life I’ve been an underrated player, these last few weeks being asked to go to the World Juniors and this huge trade, really it has helped my confidence a lot but I just have to keep the same mindset and try to be better every time I go on the ice,” he said.

Paul credited Head Coach Stan Butler with helping him get to where he is today.
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Post #375 by NyQuil » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:34 am

Must have been 5'9.
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Post #376 by MP » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:54 am

NyQuil wrote:Must have been 5'9.


Solid math skills on display right here...
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Post #377 by i.m. fletcher » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:45 pm

NyQuil wrote:Must have been 5'9.


It was 6 inches in one year and 5 the year before that. He was drafted at 17 at 5'5. Pretty incredible stroke of luck for a kid trying to make it to the bigs.

Would half think he would be a mess with body control, but he seems to have maintained a great deal of it.
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Post #378 by Redden Punches Faces » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:34 pm

with a flick of his stick,
And a quick little kick
young Paul nick
doth engorge nyquils dick
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Post #379 by RTWAP » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:23 pm

MP wrote:Solid math skills on display right here...


It's a metric foot. It has 10" (TWSS)

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Post #380 by discostu » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:37 am

i.m. fletcher wrote:It was 6 inches in one year and 5 the year before that. He was drafted at 17 at 5'5. Pretty incredible stroke of luck for a kid trying to make it to the bigs.

Would half think he would be a mess with body control, but he seems to have maintained a great deal of it.


I suspect witchcraft.
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Post #381 by ben. » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:19 pm

Nick Paul has 13G in 14GP. Watch out, it won't be long before someone posts something on boards that he is a poor man's McDavid since he has 14G in 14GP
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Post #382 by ben. » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:08 pm

Also of note, Chris Wideman seems to be taking the next step in the AHL this year. It is particularly good to see after Luke Richardson singled him out a little bit at the start of the season as someone who could really start turning the corner. He was just named the player of the week and the player of the month in the AHL with 7G and 6A in 10GP. A shame his size might prevent him from getting a real chance in the pros.
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Post #383 by BlackRedGold » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:35 pm

ben. wrote:Also of note, Chris Wideman seems to be taking the next step in the AHL this year. It is particularly good to see after Luke Richardson singled him out a little bit at the start of the season as someone who could really start turning the corner. He was just named the player of the week and the player of the month in the AHL with 7G and 6A in 10GP. A shame his size might prevent him from getting a real chance in the pros.


I think I had a good feeling about him once.
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Post #384 by Germz » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:39 pm

Good to hear. Wideman has now raised my opinion of him from "definitely won't amount to anything" to "probably won't amount to anything."
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Post #385 by Hossa » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:07 am

ben. wrote:Also of note, Chris Wideman seems to be taking the next step in the AHL this year. It is particularly good to see after Luke Richardson singled him out a little bit at the start of the season as someone who could really start turning the corner. He was just named the player of the week and the player of the month in the AHL with 7G and 6A in 10GP. A shame his size might prevent him from getting a real chance in the pros.


Wideman continues to roll, leading the league in points still. You have to imagine if one of Karlsson, Ceci or Gryba goes down, he is called up to play the right side.

Shane Prince is second in team scoring, despite missing a couple games, and it will be interesting to see where he slots in once call-ups are necessary. His speed would be great, but I wonder whether he is still in the plans, or whether Pageau and Puempel are top of the list. Prince is the kind of player I could see pulling a Bud Holloway and bolting to Europe as leverage for an NHL job.
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Post #386 by King Clancy » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:18 pm

@BSens_Hockey: Here comes Greenham to replace Andrew Hammond after allowing 3 goals on the first three shots of the game just 36 seconds into play


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Post #387 by mayoradamwest » Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:16 pm

Nick Paul made Canada's WJC team, no word on if they'll be able to get him a last name.
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Post #388 by Ricard_Persson » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:19 pm

Nick Paul.

This guy looks pretty good. He was quiet offensively in the first couple games, but he looks really good now. I've never seen him play before, but I've noticed him almost every shift all games. Huge guy. Long reach, loves the board area behind the offensive net. Sets up and defenders have a hard time getting the puck from him. Completely raw and will take time but he seems to have good hands for a big guy. He already skates better than mark stone did, so if they can train him he could be pretty decent. His skating is actually pretty good.

He goes straight to the net in the offensive zone. He seems very comfortable in high traffic.
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Post #389 by NyQuil » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:35 pm

He's like a Canadian Zibanejad.
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Post #390 by MP » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:44 pm

NyQuil wrote:He's like a Canadian Zibanejad.


With a NASCAR name.
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Post #391 by i.m. fletcher » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:58 pm

I have been really impressed with Paul as well. He almost has no idea how good he could be, but the quick hands, physicality and skating are there, so its just a waiting game to see him put it together. He also looks far bigger than any other forward on the team, even with Lawson Crouse listed bigger. On that level, he kindve reminds me Jeff Carter at the same age, or even Brian Boyle.

It will probably take him 2-3 years before we know what side of the scale he will end up on.
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Post #392 by Ismellofhockey » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:05 am

Lazar is currently Canada's leading goal-scorer, which is pretty impressive after the slow start he and McDavid had.
On the flip side every single one of those goals said "I'm going to be a 3rd line plugger".
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Post #393 by NyQuil » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:38 pm

Ismellofhockey wrote:Lazar is currently Canada's leading goal-scorer, which is pretty impressive after the slow start he and McDavid had.
On the flip side every single one of those goals said "I'm going to be a 3rd line plugger".


I'm sure Don Brennan was masturbating furiously after each one.
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Post #394 by mayoradamwest » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:54 pm

Lazar seems like a nice guy. I like that.
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Post #395 by MP » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:02 pm

Nick Paul is a terrible interview.
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Post #396 by King Clancy » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:15 pm

At least Gauthier finally scored, in his second year at the WJHC.

On a pretty good goalie in Fucale too.
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Post #397 by King Clancy » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:18 pm

Seriously though, Gauthier is terrible.

TSN talking about how fortuitous it is that he's the centre on the ice after an icing call. Yeah, that's because his line can't get out of their own zone and have to ice it.

Then he lost the draw for good measure.
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Post #398 by Redden Punches Faces » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:23 pm

don't get me wrong, I wish the best for our young SNES affiliated boys, but can't really get on board with cheering for the rest of these teen rapists.
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Post #399 by BlackRedGold » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:01 pm

King Clancy wrote:Seriously though, Gauthier is terrible.

TSN talking about how fortuitous it is that he's the centre on the ice after an icing call. Yeah, that's because his line can't get out of their own zone and have to ice it.

Then he lost the draw for good measure.


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