The Battle for the Fenwick Cup - Out of Town GDT and Discussion

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Post #7402 by MonkeyWrench » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:53 pm

Honus Joglund wrote:I like Phaneuf at $5.25 million better than Gaborik at $4.875 million. Both are signed until 2021.

I do aswell, but perhaps Dorion wanted the player to simply go away. Dion has been awful.
With Gabby atleast you have the option of him getting injured and vacationing to robidas island.
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Post #7403 by stoney » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:05 pm

MonkeyWrench wrote:
Honus Joglund wrote:I like Phaneuf at $5.25 million better than Gaborik at $4.875 million. Both are signed until 2021.

I do aswell, but perhaps Dorion wanted the player to simply go away. Dion has been awful.
With Gabby atleast you have the option of him getting injured and vacationing to robidas island.


They can't afford to pay a guy to not play
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Post #7404 by Craig » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:38 pm

You don't have to if he's injured and the contract is insured.
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Post #7405 by Transplanted Caper » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:50 pm

The Senators' Robidas island has their money re-routed into an account on the Cayman Islands on the flight back to Ottawa.
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Post #7406 by stoney » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:15 am

Craig wrote:You don't have to if he's injured and the contract is insured.


But insurance may not fully cover. Cash strapped teams still trade the permanent IR guys to rid themselves of the bills.
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Post #7407 by vf » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:40 am

Craig wrote:You don't have to if he's injured and the contract is insured.


Contracts have to get renewed annually. No chance Gabby is insured.
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Post #7408 by Craig » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:29 pm

vf wrote:
Craig wrote:You don't have to if he's injured and the contract is insured.


Contracts have to get renewed annually. No chance Gabby is insured.


They do? Since when?

As far as I know, there are two ways to insure players in the NHL. One is through the league's communal insurance program, which I think is how most high-value players are insured. In that program you can get like 80% of the salary back from injured players, but the insurance company can flag players with recurring injuries to limit or eliminate compensation for guys who are huge risks. So like, if someone has 8 concussions, you might not get anything when he's knocked out long term for #9. I don't think that program allows for being generally fragile though, you have to have a pre-existing injury to point to. Gaborik, for all his brittleness, doesn't really have a consistent cause. Early in his career it was mostly hip/groin stuff, but recently that hasn't been the problem. He's hurt his back, concussion, cut his knee, separated a shoulder, sprained his knee, broke his collarbone, broke his foot and a few undisclosed injuries. Lots of shit, but I'm not convinced he could be excluded from insurance over any of it.

The other way is to take out private insurance. I don't think there's any way to know how that works.
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Post #7409 by Geo » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:37 pm



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Post #7410 by MonkeyWrench » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:32 pm

Dorion, Bennning.
Unsure of his contract length, but Peter Chiarelli is pumped.
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Post #7411 by mooseOAK » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:54 pm

I think that Benning is a smart guy.

Phaneuf is hated by hockey fans and loved by his teammates.
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Post #7412 by stoney » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:52 am

2 things

How many times in a decade can the Oiler's draft top 5? They're at 6 of 8 so far.

Why did McDavid sign an 8 year deal?
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Re: The Battle for the Fenwick Cup - Out of Town GDT and Discussion

Post #7413 by MP » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:30 am

stoney wrote:2 things

How many times in a decade can the Oiler's draft top 5? They're at 6 of 8 so far.

Why did McDavid sign an 8 year deal?

I'd say 7 times.

And the are 100 million reasons McDavid, and every single person would sign that deal.
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Post #7414 by Thomas Malthus » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:50 am

It's not like he can't demand a trade.

Edmonton wasting McDavid is even worse than Ottawa wasting Karlsson. It makes me sick, it does.
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Post #7415 by MP » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:14 pm

Like Toronto and Sundin. Yeah, I get it.
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Post #7416 by LeafOfBread » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:15 pm

MP wrote:Like Toronto and Sundin. Yeah, I get it.

Don't worry, you guys might get a chance to waste Dahlin soon.
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Post #7417 by MP » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:15 pm

Here's hoping!
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Post #7418 by WTF » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:20 pm

LeafOfBread wrote:
MP wrote:Like Toronto and Sundin. Yeah, I get it.

Don't worry, you guys might get a chance to waste Dahlin soon.


That's okay. They get to waste Price in the meantime.
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Post #7419 by Craig » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:27 pm

When did the Sens get Price?
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Post #7420 by WTF » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:57 pm

Craig wrote:When did the Sens get Price?


Whoops. Missed that it was from MP in the first place. Replace Price with Karlsson. Just about as bad.
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Post #7421 by MP » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:20 pm

WTF wrote:
Craig wrote:When did the Sens get Price?


Whoops. Missed that it was from MP in the first place. Replace Price with Karlsson. Just about as bad.

That's what Thomas said that made me respond... Thanks for following along WTF, glad we came full circle on that one...
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Post #7422 by WTF » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:32 pm

MP wrote:
WTF wrote:
Craig wrote:When did the Sens get Price?


Whoops. Missed that it was from MP in the first place. Replace Price with Karlsson. Just about as bad.

That's what Thomas said that made me respond... Thanks for following along WTF, glad we came full circle on that one...


Meh. Half a glance was about all I could spare today.
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Post #7423 by MP » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:34 pm

WTF wrote:
MP wrote:
WTF wrote:
Whoops. Missed that it was from MP in the first place. Replace Price with Karlsson. Just about as bad.

That's what Thomas said that made me respond... Thanks for following along WTF, glad we came full circle on that one...


Meh. Half a glance was about all I could spare today.

I appreciate the gesture.
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Post #7424 by Geo » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:51 pm

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Post #7425 by LeafOfBread » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:31 pm


Fuck, I was hoping the Leafs could get him. Would've been a great fit.
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Post #7426 by AGENT ZERO » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:51 pm

Not even a little surprised.

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