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Post #601 by Curry Rage » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:23 am

Fuck, a great percentage of UK pubs still do last orders at 11. Twelve on a weekend. And they’ll kick you out 10 minutes after.
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Post #602 by Thomas Malthus » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:34 am

Who the duck can stay up until close? I’m in bed by 11 at the latest, most night I’m barely making it through the game.
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Post #603 by Dynrehab » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:37 am

LeafOfBread wrote:
paulster wrote:
mooseOAK wrote:My hotel in Salt Lake City had no bar but you could buy a six pack in their little convenience store.

Canada has silly laws also. We went to festival in Maple Ridge where there was alcohol but you could only drink it in a fenced in area. The band played in the public area to 5 people.

Not being able to carry a drink from the bar to the restaurant is dumb also.


That beer you bought in Utah could only have 3.2% alcohol or something like that.

Canada sucks too - mainly Ontario. It’s juuuust a cunthair above prohibition, really. Nanny state.


Toronto is incredibly soft. Was at a concert recently at the ACC and they wouldn't serve booze after 9, because they were worried about people getting too 'messed up'. Yes, because people are totally going to get shitfaced on $13 tallboys.

Then of course last call is at 2AM at most places which is pathetic. I gotta say Europeans definitely have the right idea when it comes to having a good time.


Until you trip over a drum kit and fuck yourself up for a few weeks.
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Post #604 by Curry Rage » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:53 am

Word.
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Post #605 by WTF » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:04 pm

You've got to sell it and make it look like you did it intentionally.
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Post #606 by Curry Rage » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:23 pm

That's music in a nutshell.
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Post #607 by AGENT ZERO » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:30 pm

Curry Rage wrote:That's music in a nutshell.


This made me chuckle out loud at work, and now people think I'm even stranger than they did before. Thanks.
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Post #608 by Curry Rage » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:18 pm

I’m funny? How? I amuse you?
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Post #611 by Whit Dickman » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:20 am

If Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen continues to look good, we will end up with easily the best 2nd and 3rd lines in hockey

I have no idea how Nylander is going to get sufficient icetime, though.
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Post #612 by vf » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:23 am

Pickard claimed by Arizona. Raanta is on IR so when he comes back presumably Pickard hits the wire again.
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Post #613 by Whit Dickman » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:31 am

vf wrote:Pickard claimed by Arizona. Raanta is on IR so when he comes back presumably Pickard hits the wire again.


Calvin is in for a ride this year
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Post #614 by stoney » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:34 am

AGENT ZERO wrote:https://twitter.com/ChartingHockey/status/1070870956644753408


I've yet to see anything from him that can't be replaced. Far as i can see, him shooting right handed is keeping him employed
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Post #615 by AGENT ZERO » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:42 am

stoney wrote:
AGENT ZERO wrote:https://twitter.com/ChartingHockey/status/1070870956644753408


I've yet to see anything from him that can't be replaced. Far as i can see, him shooting right handed is keeping him employed


I really like the way he competes in the corners and kills penalties, but those guys are a dime a dozen. Ultimately, I think Zaitsev, Brown and Marleau are moved out to keep more important players.
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Post #616 by stoney » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:08 am

AGENT ZERO wrote:
stoney wrote:
AGENT ZERO wrote:https://twitter.com/ChartingHockey/status/1070870956644753408


I've yet to see anything from him that can't be replaced. Far as i can see, him shooting right handed is keeping him employed


I really like the way he competes in the corners and kills penalties, but those guys are a dime a dozen. Ultimately, I think Zaitsev, Brown and Marleau are moved out to keep more important players.


Fair enough. But the long term deal was remarkably premature
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Post #617 by Thomas Malthus » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:13 pm

That was Zaitsev in a nutshell. I really hope we can move him but I’m not very optimistic. I don’t even want anything in return, just shed his salary. Especially since it likely means we can then extend Jake.
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Post #618 by Philthy Thrillz » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:42 pm

All Zaitsev's fault, lol. Has nothing to do with the system. What was he suppose to do, stay on his side while the three forwards hold hands along the other side? It was a piss poor pass, but that's what happens with all our D in this system.
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Post #619 by AGENT ZERO » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:44 pm

Thomas Malthus wrote:That was Zaitsev in a nutshell. I really hope we can move him but I’m not very optimistic. I don’t even want anything in return, just shed his salary. Especially since it likely means we can then extend Jake.


I don't think trading 5 years and 4.5M will be that hard Thomas. Zaitsev is a RHD and plays top 4 minutes which someone is going to value, you also have to remember that the GM that signed him is a GM on another team. We probably won't get much back, but I don't think we would need to add or retain.
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Post #620 by AGENT ZERO » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:45 pm

Philthy Thrillz wrote:All Zaitsev's fault, lol. Has nothing to do with the system. What was he suppose to do, stay on his side while the three forwards hold hands along the other side? It was a piss poor pass, but that's what happens with all our D in this system.


Pass to Gardiner, skate it up the RS, hit a forward in stride, take it up to half and dump it in. Almost anything else would have been better than what he did.
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Post #621 by LeafOfBread » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:06 pm

Whit Dickman wrote:If Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen continues to look good, we will end up with easily the best 2nd and 3rd lines in hockey

I have no idea how Nylander is going to get sufficient icetime, though.

I think ultimately Nylander goes back with Matthews. Babs made the switch in game cause it was clear Nylander was very rusty.
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Post #622 by LeafOfBread » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:11 pm



Nylander + Kapanen in a car crash today
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Post #623 by Whit Dickman » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:56 pm

LeafOfBread wrote:
Whit Dickman wrote:If Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen continues to look good, we will end up with easily the best 2nd and 3rd lines in hockey

I have no idea how Nylander is going to get sufficient icetime, though.

I think ultimately Nylander goes back with Matthews. Babs made the switch in game cause it was clear Nylander was very rusty.


I would think so too, but if the J-M-K line keeps working...?

And if Nylander is able to wake Kadri up? Shiiiit. Gonna be hard to mess with that. If the gain of having Nylander is greater for Kadri than the loss of Nylander (relative to Kapanen) is for Matthews, you keep Billy on line 3.
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Post #624 by AGENT ZERO » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:00 pm

Whit Dickman wrote:
LeafOfBread wrote:
Whit Dickman wrote:If Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen continues to look good, we will end up with easily the best 2nd and 3rd lines in hockey

I have no idea how Nylander is going to get sufficient icetime, though.

I think ultimately Nylander goes back with Matthews. Babs made the switch in game cause it was clear Nylander was very rusty.


I would think so too, but if the J-M-K line keeps working...?

And if Nylander is able to wake Kadri up? Shiiiit. Gonna be hard to mess with that. If the gain of having Nylander is greater for Kadri than the loss of Nylander (relative to Kapanen) is for Matthews, you keep Billy on line 3.


Paying Nylander 7M to play on the third line is dumb. Swapping him with two soon to be RFA's is flat out retarded.
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Post #625 by Philthy Thrillz » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:34 pm

AGENT ZERO wrote:
Philthy Thrillz wrote:All Zaitsev's fault, lol. Has nothing to do with the system. What was he suppose to do, stay on his side while the three forwards hold hands along the other side? It was a piss poor pass, but that's what happens with all our D in this system.


Pass to Gardiner, skate it up the RS, hit a forward in stride, take it up to half and dump it in. Almost anything else would have been better than what he did.


Except the system calls for him to push it up the left side every time. They were trying to catch the team on a "bad change". You really think it would be a good idea for him to carry it up the left side with zero support? Yeah the smart safe play is to regroup behind the net, but that's not the idea when the three, yes all three, forwards are jerking each other off at the blueline.
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Post #626 by AGENT ZERO » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:40 pm

Philthy Thrillz wrote:
AGENT ZERO wrote:
Philthy Thrillz wrote:All Zaitsev's fault, lol. Has nothing to do with the system. What was he suppose to do, stay on his side while the three forwards hold hands along the other side? It was a piss poor pass, but that's what happens with all our D in this system.


Pass to Gardiner, skate it up the RS, hit a forward in stride, take it up to half and dump it in. Almost anything else would have been better than what he did.


Except the system calls for him to push it up the left side every time. They were trying to catch the team on a "bad change". You really think it would be a good idea for him to carry it up the left side with zero support? Yeah the smart safe play is to regroup behind the net, but that's not the idea when the three, yes all three, forwards are jerking each other off at the blueline.


Then you pass to Gardiner, no matter how you slice it, it was poor decision making.
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Post #627 by Philthy Thrillz » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:58 pm

AGENT ZERO wrote:
Philthy Thrillz wrote:
AGENT ZERO wrote:
Pass to Gardiner, skate it up the RS, hit a forward in stride, take it up to half and dump it in. Almost anything else would have been better than what he did.


Except the system calls for him to push it up the left side every time. They were trying to catch the team on a "bad change". You really think it would be a good idea for him to carry it up the left side with zero support? Yeah the smart safe play is to regroup behind the net, but that's not the idea when the three, yes all three, forwards are jerking each other off at the blueline.


Then you pass to Gardiner, no matter how you slice it, it was poor decision making.


The play was to push it up the left side as fast as possible. Gardiner wasn't a option, he was skating the wrong way. They do it all the time, every D on our team, its what the system calls for. It was a bad pass, that's all on Zaitsev, but he made the right play (what Babcock wants).
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Post #628 by Philthy Thrillz » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:13 pm

What would Gardiner do if Zaitsev passes him the puck that play? Well, he throws a grenade up the boards expecting a deflection into the zone. All three forwards basically standing still, bunched up. There is nowhere else to go with it.
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Post #629 by Philthy Thrillz » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:31 pm

Just bad puck luck, really. Probably only missed the forward by a couple inches. If it's deflected, it's a good stretch pass for the tip in, and it's a notch for Zaitsev.
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Post #630 by stoney » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:04 am

One thing about Zaitsev that I find annoying is the velocity he seems to put on his passes. He genuinely makes it harder during a routine play for teammates. This is not new either. Just fucking relax and zip it to Gards, it isn't a fucking slap pass.
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Post #631 by MonkeyWrench » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:08 am

What I've liked about him in the last dozen or so games is his compete level and how he interrupts forecheckers.
What I don't like is he has had little to no vision. Almost Marincin level. Even if it's a slapper to middle ice for a tip-in followed by a line change, there's been a running trend of them coming back for icings.

It seems like 90% of breakouts are him dishing it off to Gardiner, then he does his thang. With good reason.
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Post #632 by Curry Rage » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:04 am

I get the Hyman suspension from the perspective of stopping late hits, but does McAvoy not bear any responsibility for the “blindside” part for admiring his pass? He didn’t even shoulder check in a spot where one should expect pressure coming. Every team runs that wrap-around shoot-in and the pressure is on the strong side. Keep your head up, kid.

In the context of some of the other hits that haven’t seen suspensions recently, the penalty seems harsh. But, I get why that context also shouldn’t be part of the process. You need to look at one hit at a time. But, they need to be more consistent.
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Post #633 by paulster » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:22 am

Curry Rage wrote:I get the Hyman suspension from the perspective of stopping late hits, but does McAvoy not bear any responsibility for the “blindside” part for admiring his pass? He didn’t even shoulder check in a spot where one should expect pressure coming. Every team runs that wrap-around shoot-in and the pressure is on the strong side. Keep your head up, kid.

In the context of some of the other hits that haven’t seen suspensions recently, the penalty seems harsh. But, I get why that context also shouldn’t be part of the process. You need to look at one hit at a time. But, they need to be more consistent.

Hit was super late. Quit your victim-blaming #metoo
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Post #634 by Curry Rage » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:36 am

Not surprised. It’s always seemed like you’ve taken a couple of blindside hits.

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Post #635 by Philthy Thrillz » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:26 pm

Rosen extended for two years. Good stuff.
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Post #636 by LeafOfBread » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:29 pm

Philthy Thrillz wrote:Rosen extended for two years. Good stuff.

Pretty interesting. I thought he would bolt after his deal expired this summer, but I imagine Dubas and maybe even Babs had a conversation with him about his future here and probably told him he has a decent chance of landing a spot at some point, especially with Hainsey coming off the books in the summer. I know Babs really did like him and he loves d-men who can skate well so he likely values that a lot.
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Post #637 by MonkeyWrench » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:31 pm



Dunno much about him. RHD. Organizational depth for organizational depth.

Glass was also dealt because Kaskisuo is healthy.
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Post #638 by vf » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:55 pm

Oleksy played for the Marlies in 16/17. Did good things for them.
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Post #639 by Curry Rage » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:23 am

vf wrote:Oleksy played for the Marlies in 16/17. Did good things for them.

I knew the name was familiar.
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Post #640 by Whit Dickman » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:21 pm

I like how much they apparently care about keeping the Marlies competitive. Winning culture and all that.

Right now their problem is goaltending, though:
McAdam sv% = .894, 2.97 GAA
Glass sv% = .849, 4.31 GAA
Kaskisuo sv% = .863, 4.41 GAA

Disgusting
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Post #641 by LeafOfBread » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:27 pm

Bob Cole’s final HNIC game will be Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bob-coles-final-hnic-game-will-maple-leafs-vs-canadiens/sn-amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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Post #642 by mooseOAK » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:48 pm

Pretty soon he will be in that big gondola in the sky, wondering why the whistle was blown.
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Post #643 by vf » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:06 pm

Whit Dickman wrote:I like how much they apparently care about keeping the Marlies competitive. Winning culture and all that.

Right now their problem is goaltending, though:
McAdam sv% = .894, 2.97 GAA
Glass sv% = .849, 4.31 GAA
Kaskisuo sv% = .863, 4.41 GAA

Disgusting


Glass is gone. Pickard or McBackup will be back in the org by playoffs.
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Post #644 by Zardoz » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:46 pm

Maybe with Cole gone they can move Jim over to the CBCs real favourite team...
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Post #646 by Philthy Thrillz » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:56 am

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Post #647 by Whit Dickman » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:17 pm

LeafOfBread wrote:Bob Cole’s final HNIC game will be Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bob-coles-final-hnic-game-will-maple-leafs-vs-canadiens/sn-amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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I put this in my google calendar. that's how big of a deal this is
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Re: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Goblet: Our Toronto Leafs 2018-2019 General Discussion

Post #648 by Philthy Thrillz » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:16 pm




Not exactly sure what I'm looking at, but the bottom link visual looks to an issue from the left side.

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