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I was thinking about signing up for it. To me, it might be worth a cup or two of coffee a month to keep me from reading some of the other Leafs trash that's out there.
MLHS and PPP are both pretty sparse these days---neither produces much content. Joffler's site seems to be hurting for contributors though it's the best of that trio. There are some other sites like Editor and Leaf but I don't think I've ever read anything at sites like that that were actually worth the time.
MLHS and PPP are both pretty sparse these days---neither produces much content. Joffler's site seems to be hurting for contributors though it's the best of that trio. There are some other sites like Editor and Leaf but I don't think I've ever read anything at sites like that that were actually worth the time.
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Thomas Malthus wrote:I was thinking about signing up for it. To me, it might be worth a cup or two of coffee a month to keep me from reading some of the other Leafs trash that's out there.
MLHS and PPP are both pretty sparse these days---neither produces much content. Joffler's site seems to be hurting for contributors though it's the best of that trio. There are some other sites like Editor and Leaf but I don't think I've ever read anything at sites like that that were actually worth the time.
MLHS has really toned down on the amount of content, Petrielli barely writes anymore. PPP can suck my balls outside of the occasional article.
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LeafOfBread wrote:Thomas Malthus wrote:I'm really liking the stuff that's coming out of The Athletic, not just because it's refreshingly positive Leafs hype but because it's pretty good quality.
https://theathletic.com/33504/2017/01/1 ... p-pairing/Zaitsev fulfilled the last year of his contract in the KHL before signing with the Leafs last May. He was already familiar with Toronto because he spent many summers training with Roberts in the city. “I was immediately impressed by the facilities here,” Zaitsev said. “Everything that I wanted in hockey was in this city.”
Yeah I like The Athletic a lot as well. Good quality articles, that Jack Han guy is very underrated, he does a great job with systems analysis articles.
Sad that it's a subscriber service, I likely won't be signing up for it.
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Why would I pay for content when I can just read the drivel on this site?
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"If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything." - Ronald Coase
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On Kadri taking his shots more quickly and from shorter distance (shot quality?), his adaptation to Holmstrom's role on the PP, etc. http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl ... oal-scorer
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Benning: Staying the course; could move a defenceman
Canucks GM Jim Benning says he's been pleased with how the team has continued to stay competitive while developing the younger players. He also says if a deal fits, a defenceman would likely be involved, not picks.
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040- ... n-1.653695
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Courage 3.0 wrote:On Kadri taking his shots more quickly and from shorter distance (shot quality?), his adaptation to Holmstrom's role on the PP, etc. http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl ... oal-scorer
The one goal scoring tip goalies don't want you to know!
PK coaches HATE him.
Kadri started shooting closer to the net, what happens next will SHOCK you.
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Not a single vote for Babs? What the fuck?
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Thomas Malthus wrote:Not a single vote for Babs? What the fuck?
That's pretty retarded. Wouldn't be surprised if there's some jealousy or angst there with Babs being the highest paid coach and go to Team Canada choice and all. Maybe some resentment towards the Leafs as well for winning the lottery and getting Matthews.
How the fuck does Bill Peters get a vote and not Babs?
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If the leafs make the playoffs, Babs will certainly end up with some votes. He should win, but won't.
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Whit Dickman wrote:If the leafs make the playoffs, Babs will certainly end up with some votes. He should win, but won't.
Babs should've already won this fucking trophy a long time ago. Sadly it's become a joke where lucky coaches who have one great year get awarded it.
Last year was the only exception in a while, Trotz did deserve it.
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Babz, Trotz, and Quenneville are the three best coaches in the world and they've combined for two Jack Adams awards in 49 seasons of NHL coaching.
Imagine if the other awards were given out to the player who had the most surprisingly good season rather than the best. Last year's Hart would have gone to Panarin and the Vezina would have gone to Michal Neuvirth.
Imagine if the other awards were given out to the player who had the most surprisingly good season rather than the best. Last year's Hart would have gone to Panarin and the Vezina would have gone to Michal Neuvirth.
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I was able to read it on my phone but can't on my laptop. o.O
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vf wrote:Too bad about the paywall.
There was no paywall when I had posted it. Weird and disappointing, it was actually a well done article.
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I like the articles from there, but, the cost is too high imo to read one or two articles a month.
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So Naz wants to be in the conversation for the Selke. (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kadri-aspires-one-day-selke-conversation/) And for some games Babs lets him pick who he wants to match up against (I think someone mentioned this in one of the other threads, but I can't recall which one). (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-hanzal-talks-stall-canadiens-coyotes/ points #21 and #22).
He got a single 4th place vote at the end of his 2012-13 breakout season. (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players ... ina01.html)
Here are some cool articles talking about Kadri's transformation:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/20 ... schuk.html
https://theathletic.com/28164/2016/12/0 ... e-forward/ (no paywall)
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/big- ... to-a-star/ (from last season)
If he really wants to have a shot at it then he's probably going to have to try and get some PK time, improve his faceoffs and/or get a lot better at suppressing shots. If he can make improvements there, then I could see him getting serious consideration. As it is, I'd bet on him to get at least a vote this season.
He got a single 4th place vote at the end of his 2012-13 breakout season. (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players ... ina01.html)
Here are some cool articles talking about Kadri's transformation:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/20 ... schuk.html
https://theathletic.com/28164/2016/12/0 ... e-forward/ (no paywall)
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/big- ... to-a-star/ (from last season)
If he really wants to have a shot at it then he's probably going to have to try and get some PK time, improve his faceoffs and/or get a lot better at suppressing shots. If he can make improvements there, then I could see him getting serious consideration. As it is, I'd bet on him to get at least a vote this season.
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As awesome as he's been he's not quite in the tier of Kesler and Bergeron types. I'm really happy though how seriously he's taking the defensive side of his game. Babcock has really encouraged him and no more do we see comparisons to Ribeiro.
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I think it helps significantly that he's seeing the results of his efforts. He can shutdown opposing offensive stars and he's still on pace for the best season in his career so far. That's some serious positive reinforcement.
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Helps he has a coach who probably gave him quite a clear vision on how he was going to be a longterm Leaf. And talked him up to the media.
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WTF wrote:I think it helps significantly that he's seeing the results of his efforts. He can shutdown opposing offensive stars and he's still on pace for the best season in his career so far. That's some serious positive reinforcement.
I think he's definitely realized that alot of #1 lines have 1-2 guys that don't play D. Get the puck and you get space and great chances. Tire them out on D, you have a huge advantage on both ends.
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LeafOfBread wrote:As awesome as he's been he's not quite in the tier of Kesler and Bergeron types. I'm really happy though how seriously he's taking the defensive side of his game. Babcock has really encouraged him and no more do we see comparisons to Ribeiro.
Now we can compare him to Yzerman, who was crap defensively until he was 30 years old.
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Counting the times that Hughson/Simpson say "flick of the wrist" at the ASG. I'm up to 4
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Leafs have been quite fortunate with injuries, to say the least.
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Interesting.
We have been very fortunate so far, though I imagine that part of our relative health is our youth. I'm sure plenty of injuries are flukes, but I'd wager that many are not. Many of those figures are imperfect but overall I think they do an okay-ish job of accounting for the losses due to injury.
We have been very fortunate so far, though I imagine that part of our relative health is our youth. I'm sure plenty of injuries are flukes, but I'd wager that many are not. Many of those figures are imperfect but overall I think they do an okay-ish job of accounting for the losses due to injury.
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Thomas Malthus wrote:Interesting.
We have been very fortunate so far, though I imagine that part of our relative health is our youth. I'm sure plenty of injuries are flukes, but I'd wager that many are not. Many of those figures are imperfect but overall I think they do an okay-ish job of accounting for the losses due to injury.
It helps that the young guys on this team seem to have good awareness. I'm sure Nylander is quite careful to keep his head up after the WJC concussion, and Matthews, Marner and co all do a good job of keeping their heads up.
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As much as Babs likes Hunwick and lauds his good pro-ness, I do think it's important that we remember he said the same sorts of things about Laich and Michalek.
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Eh, although Hunwick was awful against Philly he's been a pretty solid #5 since returning from injury. I don't think he deserves to sit, Polak does. But I'm sure they want to pump and dump Polak so they can't scratch him.
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LeafOfBread wrote:Eh, although Hunwick was awful against Philly he's been a pretty solid #5 since returning from injury. I don't think he deserves to sit, Polak does. But I'm sure they want to pump and dump Polak so they can't scratch him.
There's that and Babcock's preference for lefty-righty pairings.
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LeafOfBread wrote:Eh, although Hunwick was awful against Philly he's been a pretty solid #5 since returning from injury. I don't think he deserves to sit, Polak does. But I'm sure they want to pump and dump Polak so they can't scratch him.
that and he's a huge reason the leafs have the 3rd best PK, in the world.
I don't think he's going anywhere at the deadline.
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akiberg wrote:LeafOfBread wrote:Eh, although Hunwick was awful against Philly he's been a pretty solid #5 since returning from injury. I don't think he deserves to sit, Polak does. But I'm sure they want to pump and dump Polak so they can't scratch him.
that and he's a huge reason the leafs have the 3rd best PK, in the world.
I don't think he's going anywhere at the deadline.
Very good Pker no doubt. I think he's gone though, especially if a team offers a second again.
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No way this team downgrades the team for a 2nd. And I don't want them too.
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Polak has been a PK beast. And with the number of penalties the Leafs have been piling up, that has been totally crucial to their success. I don't think they'll abandon that down the stretch, although stranger things have happened.
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Dynrehab wrote:No way this team downgrades the team for a 2nd. And I don't want them too.
Hunwick is the better D IMO and I think he's the one that stays personally, he's also been a big part of the PK success, it's not just Polak. Polak is pretty bad 5v5, he got exposed hard in San Jose.
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LeafOfBread wrote:Dynrehab wrote:No way this team downgrades the team for a 2nd. And I don't want them too.
Hunwick is the better D IMO and I think he's the one that stays personally, he's also been a big part of the PK success, it's not just Polak. Polak is pretty bad 5v5, he got exposed hard in San Jose.
But one injury after the deadline and you are hooped. Don't trade away the depth for a 2nd in a relatively crappy draft.
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We need to see what kind of player Hunwick is in the playoffs.
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Dynrehab wrote:LeafOfBread wrote:Dynrehab wrote:No way this team downgrades the team for a 2nd. And I don't want them too.
Hunwick is the better D IMO and I think he's the one that stays personally, he's also been a big part of the PK success, it's not just Polak. Polak is pretty bad 5v5, he got exposed hard in San Jose.
But one injury after the deadline and you are hooped. Don't trade away the depth for a 2nd in a relatively crappy draft.
Fine but if he stays, he should be behind MFR, Jake, MM, Zaitsev, Hunwick at the very least, and most nights I'd go with Carrick too probably. I honestly think he'll be traded but I guess we'll see.
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paulster wrote:We need to see what kind of player Hunwick is in the playoffs.
You need the depth to get to the playoffs, and to make it through the playoffs.
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Marner gets Rookie of the Month for January. First time in NHL history a team has had 3 separate ROM winners in a season
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It's crazy how time flies. We're coming up on the 4 year anniversary of a rather memorable night. Feb. 9, 2013. The infamous one-sided ass-kicking of the Habs (to the tune of 6-0), where Orr and McLaren ran wild for one glorious shift.
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Holy shit, it's really been that long? What a glorious night that was.




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