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Post #20201 by MonkeyWrench » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:04 pm

vf wrote:Gibby said over a month ago he wasn't so sure he was interested in managing through a rebuild.


I think it has more to do with being a piss poor team for the next 2 years, than using a calculator in the dugout mid-game.
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Post #20202 by vf » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:11 pm

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vf wrote:Gibby said over a month ago he wasn't so sure he was interested in managing through a rebuild.


I think it has more to do with being a piss poor team for the next 2 years, than using a calculator in the dugout mid-game.


Rebuilding teams are usually pretty poor.
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Post #20203 by MonkeyWrench » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:24 pm

vf wrote:
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vf wrote:Gibby said over a month ago he wasn't so sure he was interested in managing through a rebuild.


I think it has more to do with being a piss poor team for the next 2 years, than using a calculator in the dugout mid-game.


Rebuilding teams are usually pretty poor.


Sorry, I phrased it poorly. I was agreeing with you. :paulrus:
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Post #20204 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:29 pm

Astros fans hating on Ken Giles because he celebrated a bit too hard for their liking. You'd think he was a woman beater or something.
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Post #20205 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:30 pm

How does a shitty manager like John Gibbons get to say "I quit" as opposed to getting his ass fired? I am frankly puzzled.
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Post #20206 by vf » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:37 pm

You're puzzled because you don't know what a good manager looks like Doc.
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Post #20207 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:38 pm

vf wrote:You're puzzled because you don't know what a good manager looks like Doc.


I know I'm dumbass but tough break for all of you, because I will keep on posting.
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Post #20208 by paulster » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:45 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:
vf wrote:You're puzzled because you don't know what a good manager looks like Doc.


I know I'm dumbass but tough break for all of you, because I will keep on posting.

I for one encourage dumbass posts that add nothing to the conversation.
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Post #20209 by Vector » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:54 am

He even said it during the conference. Knows he wants to manage, knows he’d be the right guy for a rebuild, also doesn’t think he’d have the energy for a rebuild. He’s been very open that he’s not interested in a rebuild at this stage in his life.
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Post #20210 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:12 pm

John Gibbons being "not interested" in the Blue Jays is a truly hilarious thing.
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Post #20211 by MonkeyWrench » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:25 am

Not being interested in a shit team, full of on-field mistakes. Gibby is a motivator, not a teacher.
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Post #20212 by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:22 pm



Good thing we didn't sign him.
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Post #20213 by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:41 pm

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Post #20214 by Vector » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:50 pm

Cane to post that. Martin is handling the line-up card, in-game moves and media duties. I hope Gibby finds a way to get ejected. This is all fantastic and a perfect way for him to go out. Going to miss this guy so much.
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Post #20215 by MonkeyWrench » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:22 am

Vector wrote:I hope Gibby finds a way to get ejected. This is all fantastic and a perfect way for him to go out.


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Post #20216 by Balki Bartokomous » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:36 pm



Oh man
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Post #20217 by paulster » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:43 am

Anyone check in on Gregg Zaun’s YouTube project lately?
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Post #20218 by vf » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:48 am

Nope. I forgot it existed.
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Post #20219 by mayoradamwest » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:21 pm

There was a paucity of information on Gurriel at this point last year, leaving the Blue Jays with little to evaluate. Injuries limited the Cuban infielder to just 64 minor-league games in 2017, his first campaign after signing with the organization as an international free agent.

This season, though, Gurriel has served the club considerably more food for thought. He tallied 116 games across three levels, including 65 in the majors. The 24-year-old showed tremendous promise in the big-leagues, both defensively and at the plate, illustrated by his .834 OPS since July 11.

“If you think about it, we had three months last year, now we have six months of data [this year],” says Sheehan. “We have nine months total and two-thirds of it is this season. So, two-thirds of what we know about him is based on 2018.”

from https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/b ... son-plans/
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Post #20220 by vf » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:00 pm

Susf, what a stupid article. We din't have any stats so how could player be??? Maybe someone watched him for the 6 seasons before hand? The club still employs scouts for a reason.


I love this bit:

The 26-year-old Davis doesn’t carry the same pedigree as, say, Gurriel, but during his brief time with the Blue Jays, the outfielder has yielded solid evidence to evaluate and, perhaps, altered a few internal projections. As well, he underlined a lesson for the analytics department.

“You keep an open mind on these guys — they get better,” says Sheehan. “They are allowed to be better than their projections. There is still growth or decline. If you’re looking at amateur players or guys in the minors or someone like Gurriel, who is a younger major leaguer, they’re allowed to get better. [You have] your baseline, but going above that is going to happen.”


Davis came up and had a .499OPS with a .263babip and a 33LD%. He was also a small negative in the field. I wonder what evidence the unheralded prospect yielded that changed projections?
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Post #20221 by vf » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:02 pm

https://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2018/10/ ... dson-trade

In shocking news, the Jays did move Donaldson for a 27 year old who's never appeared in the big leagues. God I hope he starts next season on fire.
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Post #20222 by Balki Bartokomous » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:59 pm

Playoff David Price is so cathartic. Imagine paying 30 million dollars for him.
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Post #20223 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:02 pm

Atkins is pretty much the opposite of a person who has something up his sleeve.
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Post #20224 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:54 am

Troy Caldwell is God's punishment to Houston and their fans for acquiring woman beater Osuna and then trash talking Ken Giles.
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Post #20225 by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:54 pm



Neat
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Post #20226 by Vector » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:37 pm

Heh, I figured it was going to be either him or Baldelli. Both from the Rays. There's been a good recent history of taking from the Rays organization.
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Post #20227 by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:07 pm



They couldn't get a better picture??? He looks mentally challenged.
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Post #20228 by vf » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:35 pm

Was hoping for Baldelli just because.
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Post #20229 by vf » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:48 pm

A couple of older stories on Montoyo, but he seems like a good guy. A Puerto Rican Gibby I hope.



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Post #20230 by Vector » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:58 pm

vf wrote:Was hoping for Baldelli just because.


I wanted Baldelli as well but I have no problem with Montoyo. A Puerto Rican Gibby would be a great outcome, overall.
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Post #20231 by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:11 pm

vf wrote:Was hoping for Baldelli just because.


For me it was Stubby Clapp
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Post #20232 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:43 pm

What about John Farrell? That man has a ring.
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Post #20233 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:45 pm

Holy shit, Charlie Montoya is goaltender Al Montoya's dad. Couldn't believe this when I read about it on Wikipedia.
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Post #20234 by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:31 pm

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Post #20235 by LeafOfBread » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:47 pm

Pearce is world series MVP lmao
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Post #20236 by Balki Bartokomous » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:51 pm

I'm not surprised Price hasn't stopped winning since he got his first.
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Post #20237 by Vector » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:59 pm

I feel conflicted; I don’t hate this Red Sox team. It won’t happen but I really hope Rogers actually spends money to get and keep talent. Red Sox have a great core, aggressively acquired big talent (Porcello, Sale, and Kimbrel) and very little of what they’ve given up has looked good, and spent big money on guys worth it. There’s no reason the Jays should ever price themselves out of a player.
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Post #20238 by Balki Bartokomous » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:42 am

I actually quite like them. I just hate their fans
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Post #20239 by Vector » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:15 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:I actually quite like them. I just hate their fans


The city seems to massively overrated as well.
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Post #20240 by Balki Bartokomous » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:17 am

Massively for sure. I think it sucks.
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Post #20241 by LeafOfBread » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:22 am

I hate every Boston team.
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Post #20242 by MonkeyWrench » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:27 am

LeafOfBread wrote:I hate every Boston team.


Red Sox I can handle. But any time I tell a red sox fan I watch their games they go into crazy fanboy mode on my ass.
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Post #20243 by AGENT ZERO » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:35 am

LeafOfBread wrote:I hate every Boston team.


Same, except for the Patriots. I'm a diehard Tom Brady fan.
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Post #20244 by vf » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:29 am

Vector wrote:I feel conflicted; I don’t hate this Red Sox team. It won’t happen but I really hope Rogers actually spends money to get and keep talent. Red Sox have a great core, aggressively acquired big talent (Porcello, Sale, and Kimbrel) and very little of what they’ve given up has looked good, and spent big money on guys worth it. There’s no reason the Jays should ever price themselves out of a player.


They just need to sell to MLSE and it could happen.

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