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Post #3751 by Philthy Thrillz » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:07 pm

Is there a contending team that needs help from a big, goal scoring left winger, that could deal from their backend?
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Post #3752 by mooseOAK » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:25 pm

Not for one year.
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Post #3753 by LeafOfBread » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:43 am

Philthy Thrillz wrote:Is there a contending team that needs help from a big, goal scoring left winger, that could deal from their backend?

I think Anaheim comes the closest to meeting this criteria.
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Post #3754 by Thomas Malthus » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:25 am

Kapanen got fucked up in the game last night with what looks like an intention elbow to the head. He left and didn't return.

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Post #3755 by Whit Dickman » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:26 am

Getting pretty tired of scrub AHL morons injuring young stars. League needs to deal with that problem
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Post #3756 by clawfirst » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:32 am

Wasn't a blatent elbow. Was a tucked arm hit on the backcheck.
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Post #3757 by Zardoz » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:10 am

Kapanen seems to find himself getting gooned a lot. Not like head down mush head ways, but he's definitely a target out there.
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Post #3758 by LeafOfBread » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:29 pm

Whit Dickman wrote:Getting pretty tired of scrub AHL morons injuring young stars. League needs to deal with that problem

It's fucking Albany again too. Pretty sure the cunt who took out Johnsson last year was also an Albany player.
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Post #3759 by Philthy Thrillz » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:10 pm

Pucks gone, no need to cut him off.
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Post #3760 by mooseOAK » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:27 pm

We'll still have people complaining that drafted CHL stars are better off in the AHL.
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Post #3761 by MonkeyWrench » Fri May 05, 2017 12:25 pm

Marlies kickng off round 2 tonght. Grundstrom 'could' make an appearance in the next couple of games the way Johnsson did last year.

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Post #3762 by MonkeyWrench » Fri May 05, 2017 10:17 pm

Couple non scout worthy comments from the game.

Kapanen had speed and good offensive instincts. (we know that, but he was noticeable)
Leipsic's puck handling skill is great. He knows it, and used it too often. Much like Nylander in his AHL tenure. Suffered some turnovers because of it. A little weak on skates.
Johnsson is fiesty for a guy of that size. Reminds me of Brown. He scored the lone goal for the marlies and it was via fighting though traffic and tapping home a rebound. (vid at bottom)
Kaskisuo was incredible. Could have easily been a 4-1 game by the start of the 3rd period.

The game overall was relatively even in the 1st period despite the shot differential. However the other 2 periods were messy on our end. The opposition had nhl-like structure and communication during plays.

Dermott, Nielsen, Holl and Valiev were okay but didn't stand out due to that lack of structure.


Lone goal by A.Johnsson (Nielsen, Moore)
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Post #3763 by Zardoz » Mon May 08, 2017 1:28 pm

I think some vigilante justice is needed on this dotchin character. Andreas concussion, knee on knee with Matthews and now a multiple season damaging hit on Freddy? And that's just the Leafs! Fuck that guy and his livelihood. Doesn't deserve to be in hockey.
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Post #3764 by MonkeyWrench » Mon May 08, 2017 1:37 pm

As if our organizational center depth could get any worse. I hope Clune runs his body over the boards and into Oakville.
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Post #3765 by LeafOfBread » Mon May 08, 2017 1:39 pm

Zardoz wrote:I think some vigilante justice is needed on this dotchin character. Andreas concussion, knee on knee with Matthews and now a multiple season damaging hit on Freddy? And that's just the Leafs! Fuck that guy and his livelihood. Doesn't deserve to be in hockey.

the johnsson concussion wasn't dotchin, that was some AHL lifer fuck. he did hurt Kapanen though when Kapanen had that serious knee injury.

but ya, fuck this guy, he's a dirty player. i don't feel bad that marchand speared him even though i fucking hate marchand.
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Post #3766 by Zardoz » Mon May 08, 2017 2:24 pm

Shit yeah, confusing the two. The hit on Kapanen was bad too.

The AHL needs to think hard about whether it's worth their time having guys like this in the league.

The guy is a menace and at some point he's going to ruin some poor kids career.
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Post #3767 by Curry Rage » Mon May 08, 2017 3:47 pm

Just saw a bad angle of the hit. Really late. Jeezuz. I don't know what you do besides suspending the guy or fining him a serious amount of salary. I think at the AHL level monetary penalties would work really well given the proportion of salary. The union needs to get on board with this.
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Post #3768 by LeafOfBread » Mon May 08, 2017 3:55 pm

Curry Rage wrote:Just saw a bad angle of the hit. Really late. Jeezuz. I don't know what you do besides suspending the guy or fining him a serious amount of salary. I think at the AHL level monetary penalties would work really well given the proportion of salary. The union needs to get on board with this.

Dotchin is an NHL level player unfortunately, he's actually a half-decent d-man, got to play with Hedman this year. Even if he lost some AHL salary it's not a huge loss for a guy like him who will be back in the NHL next year. But in general, your point is a good one. That fucktard who scrambled Johnsson's brains last spring would certainly get hit badly by a fine like that
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Post #3769 by Curry Rage » Mon May 08, 2017 4:03 pm

LeafOfBread wrote:
Curry Rage wrote:Just saw a bad angle of the hit. Really late. Jeezuz. I don't know what you do besides suspending the guy or fining him a serious amount of salary. I think at the AHL level monetary penalties would work really well given the proportion of salary. The union needs to get on board with this.

Dotchin is an NHL level player unfortunately, he's actually a half-decent d-man, got to play with Hedman this year. Even if he lost some AHL salary it's not a huge loss for a guy like him who will be back in the NHL next year. But in general, your point is a good one. That fucktard who scrambled Johnsson's brains last spring would certainly get hit badly by a fine like that


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Post #3770 by LeafErikson » Wed May 10, 2017 2:37 am



Johnson has 5 goals in the playoffs so far after 2 last night. Grundstrom scored the game winner.
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Post #3771 by Curry Rage » Wed May 10, 2017 3:23 am

What the fuck were they doing on Erne's goal? It's the playoffs, that shit should be ironed out.

Nice work by Johnson and a great pass from Kappy for Johnson's first.

I've got a feeling Grundstrom is going to be useful. He seems to have slotted into the AHL without missing a beat. I like where he scored his goal from. No hesitation on the shot and got it up in a hurry to give the goalie no chance at all.

Kappy with some nice hands. Looking forward to him providing some scoring depth in the NHL. Always good to have some guys you can play up and down the lineup that can make something out of a chance scoring opportunity. If he finds his way to being a 20/30 guy like his Dad, that would be pretty awesome.

Syracuse has a lot of vet guys who've played in the show and some AHL worldbeaters - Taormina, Condra, Bournival, Froese, etc. Tough matchup for our kids.
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Post #3772 by LeafErikson » Wed May 10, 2017 3:31 pm

Keefe seems really happy with Grundstrom. Called him a hockey player. So coach speak for a guy easy to coach, does it right blah blah blah. Kinda what you expect based on previous views, and scouting reports.
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Post #3773 by AGENT ZERO » Wed May 10, 2017 3:35 pm

I'm encouraged to hear that Grundstrom is a hockey player, for a moment there I was worried that he was a basketball player or worse yet a soccer player. :pacman:
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Post #3774 by Thomas Malthus » Wed May 10, 2017 3:44 pm

Fuck, Kapanen is slick. That was a nice goal.
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Post #3775 by Zardoz » Tue May 16, 2017 10:59 am

Grundstrom with a nice goal and a beautiful screen in the 2-1 game 6 win to force a game 7. The guy is a presence for sure. Making himself important.
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Post #3776 by LeafOfBread » Tue May 16, 2017 12:49 pm

Zardoz wrote:Grundstrom with a nice goal and a beautiful screen in the 2-1 game 6 win to force a game 7. The guy is a presence for sure. Making himself important.

He looks like he could step in quite sooner than anyone realistically expected
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Post #3777 by Zardoz » Tue May 16, 2017 1:19 pm

It's weird, he's listed as 6' and 194lbs, but he plays big. Or at least he just looks big to me.

Anyway, impressive for a 19 year old to stand out like that and play some important roles.
Keefe said it wasn't his best game despite the goal. So he's got more to give.
He's like Kapanen last year. Make a push to be in the nhl roster but ultimately gets another year in the AHL.
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Post #3779 by LeafErikson » Sat May 20, 2017 3:52 pm

I keep seeing talk about Bracco doing what Marner did this past year. I'll just say I'm skeptical of him being ready in September.
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Post #3780 by cawbber » Sat May 20, 2017 5:04 pm

LeafErikson wrote:I keep seeing talk about Bracco doing what Marner did this past year. I'll just say I'm skeptical of him being ready in September.

Ready for the Marlies maybe
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Post #3781 by LeafErikson » Sun May 21, 2017 3:53 am

cawbber wrote:
LeafErikson wrote:I keep seeing talk about Bracco doing what Marner did this past year. I'll just say I'm skeptical of him being ready in September.

Ready for the Marlies maybe

He's ready for the Marlies.
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Post #3782 by cawbber » Sun May 21, 2017 8:49 am

LeafErikson wrote:
cawbber wrote:
LeafErikson wrote:I keep seeing talk about Bracco doing what Marner did this past year. I'll just say I'm skeptical of him being ready in September.

Ready for the Marlies maybe

He's ready for the Marlies.

Lots of competition
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Post #3783 by LeafOfBread » Sun May 21, 2017 11:14 am

LeafErikson wrote:I keep seeing talk about Bracco doing what Marner did this past year. I'll just say I'm skeptical of him being ready in September.

Where? I haven't seen any Bracco hype at all, most people think he needs AHL time and are weary his defensive game.
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Post #3784 by Dynrehab » Sun May 21, 2017 11:49 am

https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/20 ... draft.html

I thought this was an interesting look at the Leafs situation.
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Post #3785 by vf » Sun May 21, 2017 2:08 pm

Dynrehab wrote:https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2017/05/20/leafs-pick-weighs-prospects-five-years-after-draft.html

I thought this was an interesting look at the Leafs situation.


Didn't know Piccinich got an AHL deal. That's a good way to get some of the lower hype guys.
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Post #3786 by mooseOAK » Sun May 21, 2017 2:09 pm

Looks like at worst they can get a pick for Toninato if what his agent says is true.
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Post #3788 by Philthy Thrillz » Sun May 21, 2017 7:21 pm

It's a good example of how the media can distort opinions of fans that don't know/watch him. It's the exact opposite of how they portray him.
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Post #3789 by akiberg » Sun May 21, 2017 9:10 pm

Philthy Thrillz wrote:It's a good example of how the media can distort opinions of fans that don't know/watch him. It's the exact opposite of how they portray him.

the media distorts opinions on everything, yes.

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Post #3790 by Philthy Thrillz » Sun May 28, 2017 8:47 pm

Bracco looks good out there with a goal and a helper so far. Notice he's been back checking with good effort.
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Post #3791 by Philthy Thrillz » Sun May 28, 2017 8:58 pm

Vilardi > Strome
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Post #3792 by LeafOfBread » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:25 pm

Apparently the Leafs didn't sign Herzog, Korostelev or Desrocher. Herzog wasn't surprising but I thought we'd give some more time to the other two. Oh well.
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Post #3793 by Philthy Thrillz » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:55 am

When did we draft Korostelev?
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Post #3794 by WTF » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:14 am

Philthy Thrillz wrote:When did we draft Korostelev?


7th round of the 2015 draft.
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Post #3795 by AGENT ZERO » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:52 pm

Philthy Thrillz wrote:Vilardi > Strome


Gabriel Vilardi P1/G Age 17: (0.98)

Dylan Strome P1/G Age 17: (1.43)
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Post #3796 by Philthy Thrillz » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:39 pm

AGENT ZERO wrote:
Philthy Thrillz wrote:Vilardi > Strome


Gabriel Vilardi P1/G Age 17: (0.98)

Dylan Strome P1/G Age 17: (1.43)


I may be a little biased, but think his game will translate better to the NHL. Time will tell.
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Post #3798 by MonkeyWrench » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:46 am

Sparks re-signed and Toninato is signed to an ELC.

Toninato intrigues me. Not necessarily as a great player, but a solid depth center. We'll see.
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Post #3799 by LeafOfBread » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:34 am

Apparently 2016 draftee Jack Walker is no longer with the organization, he's at Wild Development camp this summer?

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Post #3800 by Dynrehab » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:33 am

Jack was billeted by a family whose daughter dances with my daughter. He lived with them for several years. He was around the dance studio in May and June. I was wearing a Leaf hat one day and his billet mom gave me an earful about how she hates the Leafs. I assumed then he was being cut loose.

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