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Post #4101 by Thomas Malthus » Wed May 23, 2018 8:32 pm

Just tuned in.

3-0? With goals from Grundstrom, Johnsson, and Marchment? Yes, please.
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Post #4102 by Thomas Malthus » Wed May 23, 2018 8:37 pm

I love seeing Tim fight back like that after what looked like an attempted knee on knee in the corner.
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Post #4103 by WTF » Wed May 23, 2018 8:43 pm

It's too bad AHL refs can't count.
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Post #4104 by Honus Joglund » Wed May 23, 2018 8:43 pm

Marlies get a too many men penalty for playing with six men during a delayed penalty and the goalie on the bench. :lou_laugh:
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Post #4105 by Thomas Malthus » Wed May 23, 2018 8:43 pm

WTF wrote:It's too bad AHL refs can't count.


What the fuck even was that garbage call?
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Post #4106 by WTF » Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 pm

And after that horseshit, McGuire's favourite goalie is in for the Phantoms.
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Post #4107 by Honus Joglund » Wed May 23, 2018 9:19 pm

Never a dull night in our beloved American League.
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Post #4108 by Thomas Malthus » Wed May 23, 2018 9:19 pm

That's something I don't think I've ever seen.
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Post #4109 by WTF » Wed May 23, 2018 9:20 pm

That's a first for me as well. I don't recall seeing a goalie getting 5 and a game before.
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Post #4110 by Thomas Malthus » Wed May 23, 2018 9:26 pm

Here's a gif of that kick:

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Post #4111 by WTF » Wed May 23, 2018 9:37 pm

Held them to 16 shots. Unreal.
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Post #4112 by Thomas Malthus » Wed May 23, 2018 9:39 pm

Engvall is pretty slick.
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Post #4113 by Honus Joglund » Wed May 23, 2018 9:57 pm

Johnsson has 38 points in his last 24 AHL games. :donger:
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Post #4114 by Philthy Thrillz » Wed May 23, 2018 10:08 pm

Wow. He did look pretty awesome in the bit I watched today. The whole line was kick ass.
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Post #4115 by Curry Rage » Thu May 24, 2018 3:43 am

Johnsson and Grundstrom tearing shit up. Grundstrom with a casual 6 goals in the playoffs in a league he didn't play in all year.

Keefe made a comment the other night about the chemistry between Johnsson, Aaltonen and Kapanen. A Dubas-y 4th line for 2018-19?







(In before someone says Dubas was actually responsible for the Grundstrom pick or that anyone could've made it...)
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Post #4116 by Thomas Malthus » Thu May 24, 2018 8:42 am

I think Kapanen and Johnsson deserve more minutes than what that line would give them.
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Post #4117 by AGENT ZERO » Thu May 24, 2018 9:52 am

Plus I doubt we will have the depth to warrant playing them that low. There is a good chance that we will be down two top 6 wingers next year (Nylander shifting to C, and JVR UFA).
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Post #4118 by Whit Dickman » Thu May 24, 2018 1:56 pm

what a team
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Post #4119 by Whit Dickman » Thu May 24, 2018 2:01 pm

Did you guys know that the top scorer in the playoffs is still Chris DiDomenico (17 points in 10 games)
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Post #4120 by Whit Dickman » Thu May 24, 2018 2:09 pm

Texas Stars are also up 3-0 in their series. Mostly a team of vets: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leag ... 92018.html

but goalies don't look particularly good and no dominant players.
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Post #4121 by Curry Rage » Fri May 25, 2018 7:53 am

Mrs. C and I are in Canuckistan for a bit. If they make the finals, we're going to try to scare up some Marlies tix.
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Post #4122 by LeafOfBread » Fri May 25, 2018 10:06 am

Rasanen has signed in the KHL. Provided he gets good ice time could be a decent move for him.
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Post #4123 by Thomas Malthus » Fri May 25, 2018 8:09 pm

LOL Guy takes a shot at Johnsson after he scores. U mad, bro? This Phantoms team is gutless.
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Post #4124 by MonkeyWrench » Fri May 25, 2018 8:16 pm

Thomas Malthus wrote:LOL Guy takes a shot at Johnsson after he scores. U mad, bro? This Phantoms team is gutless.


That was so incredibly stupid. That's the AHL for ya I guess.

Dermott goes oldschool himself by performing an open ice hip check. Atta boy.
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Post #4125 by Thomas Malthus » Fri May 25, 2018 8:22 pm

Grundstrom is a player. Guy is relentless.
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Post #4126 by MonkeyWrench » Fri May 25, 2018 8:33 pm

Cross checking a player in the stomach after a goal? No call.
Holding a players stick while the play goes down the ice? No call.
The coach must have put a bounty on Johnsson's head.
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Post #4127 by MonkeyWrench » Fri May 25, 2018 9:03 pm

Johnsson with the go ahead goal 5 hole...
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Post #4128 by Honus Joglund » Fri May 25, 2018 9:05 pm

Johnsson is a joke at this level. Now 40 points in his last 25 games.

Thank you Thommie Bergman.
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Post #4129 by Whit Dickman » Sat May 26, 2018 9:28 am

Seems he gained some confidence playing in the big leagues. Kid is on fire
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Post #4130 by Curry Rage » Sun May 27, 2018 1:02 pm

Got tickets for Game 2 on Sunday. Just behind the visitors bench. So excite to see real hockey.

The EPL is pretty dire. Slow and soft.
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Post #4131 by cawbber » Sun May 27, 2018 8:16 pm

Curry Rage wrote:Got tickets for Game 2 on Sunday. Just behind the visitors bench. So excite to see real hockey.

The EPL is pretty dire. Slow and soft.


How long are you back in town?
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Post #4132 by Curry Rage » Sun May 27, 2018 9:56 pm

cawbber wrote:
Curry Rage wrote:Got tickets for Game 2 on Sunday. Just behind the visitors bench. So excite to see real hockey.

The EPL is pretty dire. Slow and soft.


How long are you back in town?


Couple of weeks. Fly out on the 7th.
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Post #4133 by MonkeyWrench » Sun May 27, 2018 11:07 pm

Curry Rage wrote:
cawbber wrote:
Curry Rage wrote:Got tickets for Game 2 on Sunday. Just behind the visitors bench. So excite to see real hockey.

The EPL is pretty dire. Slow and soft.


How long are you back in town?


Couple of weeks. Fly out on the 7th.


Picked a swell time to be here. Summer weather came fast and furious.
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Post #4134 by AGENT ZERO » Mon May 28, 2018 9:33 am

He has been pretty great for the Marlies...

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Post #4135 by MonkeyWrench » Mon May 28, 2018 10:35 am

Being a recipient of pressure in the defensive zone/neutral zone yes. I've only seen a couple marlies games this season but he's still very poor in terms of decision making with the puck on his stick.
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Post #4136 by Curry Rage » Mon May 28, 2018 11:04 am

The numbers have always liked him. I just wish he was just a tiny bit mean. He's softer than Franson without the puck skill.
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Post #4137 by AGENT ZERO » Mon May 28, 2018 11:13 am

Curry Rage wrote:The numbers have always liked him. I just wish he was just a tiny bit mean. He's softer than Franson without the puck skill.


I just wish he handled the puck at the NHL level the way he does at the AHL level. He actually shows composure and skill under pressure with the Marlies whereas at the NHL level he handles the puck like a grenade. I can't tell if it is the speed of the NHL level that causes him to do this or a lack of confidence.
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Post #4138 by AGENT ZERO » Mon May 28, 2018 11:14 am

MonkeyWrench wrote:Being a recipient of pressure in the defensive zone/neutral zone yes. I've only seen a couple marlies games this season but he's still very poor in terms of decision making with the puck on his stick.


I admittedly didn't watch much in the regular season, but I've seen almost every playoff game and I have really liked his decision making with the puck.
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Post #4139 by mooseOAK » Mon May 28, 2018 6:23 pm

He still goes into brain lock when he has too much time to make a decision with the puck.
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Post #4140 by Honus Joglund » Tue May 29, 2018 4:20 pm

Rockford got knocked out by Texas last night and Chris DiDomenico didn't take it very well:

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Post #4141 by paulster » Wed May 30, 2018 11:16 am

Honus Joglund wrote:Rockford got knocked out by Texas last night and Chris DiDomenico didn't take it very well:



Holy fuck that’s the loudest most annoying video to come blasting out of my phone in the office in a long time.
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Post #4142 by LeafOfBread » Thu May 31, 2018 7:47 pm

Mattinen not being signed as well.

That 2016 draft is not looking too hot after the Woll pick. Greenway had an intriguing skillset but hasn't progressed much and had personal issues recently as well, now is headed back to the USHL. Middleton, Walker and now Mattinen are all out of the Leafs system. Bobylev and Chebykin don't look like anything special but they're longer projects so I guess they have some time being in Russia. Brooks had a pretty disappointing year in the AHL but I think he will get better with more opportunities.

End of the day though, if Grundstrom and Korshkov end up being NHLers, which it looks like, then the draft is still a great success.
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Post #4143 by Thomas Malthus » Thu May 31, 2018 8:04 pm

I'm willing to give Brooks a bit more time. It took him a little while to get going in junior too and he's looked pretty good to me in the playoffs. Keefe has been fairly complimentary of his play and talked about this year being a lot of learning and development for him, especially confidence wise.
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Post #4144 by MonkeyWrench » Thu May 31, 2018 8:23 pm

Yea, Brooks hasn't been poor. You can get a whiff of his skill-set, but it does seem like he's having a tougher time adapting to the AHL than Grund. With center a position of weakness, he'll be given alot of rope here. Needs another full season of AHL hockey for his head to catch up to his feet.
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Post #4145 by MonkeyWrench » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:28 pm

Been a back and forth game1. Texas is very good at battles for pucks aswell as making the marlies pay for mistakes/turnovers.
Their forwards have been blowing past Holl/Marincin almost every shift.
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Post #4146 by MonkeyWrench » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:40 pm

Ice has been shit. Texas is well structured. So the high skill/speed line of Johnsson/Aalt/Grund hasn't made much of an impact. Because it's a little bit more of a grind, the Engvall/Goat/Greening line is better than usual, especially in the 3rd. The size and reach pays up in this situation.
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Post #4147 by MonkeyWrench » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:58 pm

Marlies win by a goal. Game had everything, physical play/hits, good goals, ugly goals, penalties.

Lots of guys had mixed games in terms of quality. Moore is the one guy that has impressed me the most this playoffs.
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Post #4148 by Curry Rage » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:03 pm

Missed today's game. Looking forward to tomorrow.
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Post #4149 by Curry Rage » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:02 pm

Guess I'm a bad luck charm.

Marlies looked good in the 1st but let Texas slow the game to a halt after that.

Grundstrom was quiet except for one play in the second when his hustle and tenacity on the forecheck lead to a chance for. You can see all the tools there, however. Some guys just look like they're in a different class out there. He's one of them.

Johnsson was quiet. Except for a few flashes of hustle and some quick decisions with the puck there wasn't much to comment on.

Dermott's speed and mobility stood out among the D. He's a cut above many of the other guys in terms of raw ability and talent. But, he made some poor decisions defensively, took some unnecessary risks and it resulted in a goal against and a semi-breakaway on another occasion.

The most impressive guy from a defensive standpoint was...Marancin. He closed down angles all over the ice, was very effective preventing entries and made some nice plays where he'd stop his man and turn the puck up ice quickly to key a counterattack. But, it was painful to see him bring the puck up ice at times, especially on two occasions late in the game when we were chasing a tying goal and Texas were trapping like crazy. Seeing him try to stickhandle through a trap when Timmeth was also on the ice at one point was difficult. But, he could still make a decent 3rd pairing guy if they decide to move on from Polak. That's the kind of move I could see Dubas making.

Timmeth was quiet and mostly solid. He didn't take too many chances with the puck and it would've been nice to see some of the speed and shiftiness he's known for, but the game didn't really allow for it, tight-checking as it was. Just judging by how he looked and how he handled Texas' vets in the corners, another year in the AHL would be good for him. Just to have time to gain some weight and get used to dealing with men. Plus to gain the confidence necessary to make a few plays with the puck.

Timashov does a great job handling the puck and was a bit of a possession machine at times, circling the zone, looking for options. He's not *fast* but his low center of gravity meant that guys bounce off him a little along the wall. He protected the puck really well. His line with Smith was by far the Marlies' best.

Not sure what to say about Marchment. He's big and consistently physical and didn't do anything glaringly terrible, but didn't do anything remarkable yesterday either.

Engvall will be useful down the line. He's quite tall, but he's got a low center and a wide, solid skating stance that makes him really hard to knock off the puck. He's deceptively fast, as his big body makes him seem like he isn't going all that quick.

Holl was fine. That's really all I can say. He does some really good things but there was nothing about his game that really stands out as obviously NHL quality.

Sparks was controlled and in the right positions all game long. He had to make a couple of difficult saves, especially shorthanded and was up to the task. The 2-1 goal was tipped and he really had no chance.

Rosen is weird. He stands out for his skating and mobility and he frequently seemed to have the puck on his stick. But, though he had the right idea trying to make some stretch passes to break their trap, they were seldom controllable. Not sure if better forwards would've done any better with them or not. You kind of expect more to happen when he has the puck because he's so mobile with it but - at least yesterday - he wasn't able to find plays to make. He didn't show quick decision making or great vision yesterday at least.

Moore impressed me. He was tenacious and always had his head up trying to make plays with the puck. But, late in the game he made one inexplicable play where he hesitated to go down the wall to get a puck that was ringed around in the Texas end. He could've been to the puck and had possession but stopped at the hash marks. Perhaps he thought the puck would get to him but in the end a Texas player managed to get there first and a shift that had started with some Marlies pressure was diffused. He was visibly mad with himself on the way to the bench so he knows he should've recognised the score and been more aggressive.

Anyway, they played pretty well defensively. There were some questionable penalties called, including the one that lead to the game winner. But, overall they just weren't able to break through the Stars' neutral zone play or get to the inside in the o-zone. 22 shots isn't enough to win you many games. They also missed quite a few chances to get the puck deep in behind the Stars D from the blueline but hesitated or tried to make cute flip plays through bodies and sticks. I'm not sure if that was just poor execution or born of a desire to get the zone with control but it lead to a few forays being cut short when a simple dump and chase would've at least got them the zone.

Mrs. C really enjoyed her first high level pro hockey experience. She couldn't get over how much smaller the ice seemed live and how that forced the guys to make plays so quickly. She immediately noted that, in comparison, the English Premier League guys were small and slow. She eagerly waved her complimentary Marlies towel and nommed pizza and beer like an old rink rat. My old mum and dad really enjoyed being to a game. They used to see a lot of hockey back in the day, both as Barrie Flyers fans in the 50s but also because my dad played and was an asst. coach for a Jr. C team (Bradford Blues) back in the day. It was great to be able to treat them to something like that and my mum enjoyed it more than seeing games at the ACC as it felt much more intimate like she remembers from the old rinks.
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Re: Marlies and Prospects - Hell no! We won't go!

Post #4150 by mooseOAK » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:18 pm

I’m wondering if after only playing 4 games in the previous 4 weeks two games in two days was too much.

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