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Post #1 by MonkeyWrench » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:28 pm

Where can I find the number of offensive zone faceoffs each team had last year?
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Post #2 by MonkeyWrench » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:32 pm

Idiot Wind wrote:Try "Google"


My time is precious.
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Post #3 by MonkeyWrench » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:40 pm

Funny how that joke actually pre-dates google itself. See historical texts for "try a messenger pigeon".
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Post #4 by Zardoz » Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:27 pm

Before Google was the encyclopedia brittanica.
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Post #5 by WTF » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:29 am

Zardoz wrote:Before Google was the encyclopedia brittanica.


And sometime in between, there were releases like Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia. I think I still have the CD-ROM somewhere.

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And yes, while it was free, I did ask for it primarily because it had Patrick Stewart narrating it. Make it so.
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Post #6 by LeafOfBread » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:45 pm

Thomas Malthus wrote:Super generic Canadian Press piece on #fancystats: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/advanced-hockey-stats-still-evolving-in-nhl/

The latest by the Burtch-inator :pacman: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/leafs-and-kings-a-case-study-in-opposites/


Exactly what I expected from Burtch, a very PPP-esque article.

Lol @the top comment

OMG, every story is a statistics lesson. We get it, statistic is part of hockey now that the Maple Leafs hired someone who uses them.

The fact of the matter is statistics is not the reason I watch & follow hockey, nor the many readers you have at SportsNet.

I understand statistics more than most (including many of the writers at Sportnet). I used them quite effectively as a Quality Engineer, but have never thought of them as a subject that I want to read in poorly written articles.

Statistics can be a useful tool, but only that "a tool", not a very interesting subject to read about.
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Post #7 by Honus Joglund » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:32 pm

These stats really are everywhere all the sudden. TSN and Sportsnet are giving front page space jerk off bloggers like Yost and Burtch. Bob McKenzie is writing about them. Sportsnet even had a "numbers game" prime time special on the other night where Damien Cox did a really bad job of explaining them.

I see the bubble bursting fairly quickly. Baseball has been fully immersed in the analytics revolution for over ten years yet baseball broadcasts don't talk about wOBA and DRS and xFIP. There's a reason for that. It's because 95% of the mainstream audience doesn't give a fuck.
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Post #8 by clawfirst » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:47 am

I would rather hear a story from when Buck was in AAA and he faced the most devastating slider, not dissimilar to what had just happened on the field.

whether it happened or not.

Tell a story when the game isn't, let the game tell it's own.
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Post #9 by stoney » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:30 am

In Toronto, we interview the assistant GM.
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Post #10 by LeafOfBread » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:07 pm

embracedbias wrote:Michael Traikos ‏@Michael_Traikos 5h5 hours ago
I don't know why the #Leafs feel compelled to tell everyone how smart they are being. Other teams let the on-ice product speak for itself.

Joey Jo Jr Shanahan ‏@Dudgee 5h5 hours ago
.@Michael_Traikos probably because you guys ask them 50 fucking times a day about analytics, so they thought they would show you something?


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Post #11 by vf » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:41 pm

embracedbias wrote:Michael Traikos ‏@Michael_Traikos 5h5 hours ago
I don't know why the #Leafs feel compelled to tell everyone how smart they are being. Other teams let the on-ice product speak for itself.

Joey Jo Jr Shanahan ‏@Dudgee 5h5 hours ago
.@Michael_Traikos probably because you guys ask them 50 fucking times a day about analytics, so they thought they would show you something?


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Post #12 by Cunning Stunt » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:33 pm

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Post #13 by LeafOfBread » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:44 pm

Blue wrote:dabrams2021 · 3h3 hours ago
Corsi: McClement: -38; Malone -30; Gleason -29;


Lmao. Not too long ago McClement was a god in Toronto. He wasn't bad but Winnik and Komarov are better shut down forwards considering they can actually drive play into the opposition's zone. Instead of spending the whole time defending.
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Post #14 by clawfirst » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:22 pm

McClement is an very good 4th liner who can pk. We used him as a 16 minute shut down guy. Obviously that doesn't work
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Post #15 by LeafOfBread » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:09 pm

clawfirst wrote:McClement is an very good 4th liner who can pk. We used him as a 16 minute shut down guy. Obviously that doesn't work


Yep. Some of the praise he got was funny to see though, I guess that's what happens when the PK is crap for so many years.
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Post #16 by LeafOfBread » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:07 pm

mooseOAK wrote:McClement was both, he was good at what he did and then he sucked at what he did.


Diminishing returns in a nutshell.
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Post #17 by Honus Joglund » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:09 am

Holland has played 52 even strength minutes, Panik has played 38 and Kozun has played 37.

Is it possible that Mourtle is really this retarded?
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Post #18 by LeafOfBread » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:30 am

Honus Joglund wrote:Holland has played 52 even strength minutes, Panik has played 38 and Kozun has played 37.

Is it possible that Mourtle is really this retarded?


If you have to ask then you already know the answer.
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Post #20 by clawfirst » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:23 pm

I notice he didn't use the word intensity....
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Post #21 by WTF » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:20 pm

Idiot Wind wrote:In10city


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Post #22 by T.O » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:46 pm

embracedbias wrote:Michael Traikos ‏@Michael_Traikos 5h5 hours ago
I don't know why the #Leafs feel compelled to tell everyone how smart they are being. Other teams let the on-ice product speak for itself.

Joey Jo Jr Shanahan ‏@Dudgee 5h5 hours ago
.@Michael_Traikos probably because you guys ask them 50 fucking times a day about analytics, so they thought they would show you something?


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Post #23 by LeafOfBread » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:02 pm

http://nhlnumbers.com/2014/11/11/an-early-look-at-leafs-player-usage

Looking at player usage among Leafs players.

This makes Polak look even better. A lot of people (including me) thought he couldn't handle tough competition and filling the spot of Gunnarsson but he's actually getting some of the hardest minutes on the team while having the lowest offensive zone starts.
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Post #24 by Honus Joglund » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:41 pm

Just another big, slow knuckle dragger. :colbert:
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Post #25 by vf » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:53 pm

I remember defending that knuckle dragger when the deal went down. Especially the outrage over the 4th rounder or whatever it was that went with NoGuns.
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Post #26 by LeafOfBread » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:29 pm

mooseOAK wrote:It's nice to bring a player in to do a specific job and then have him do it.


That's very true, hasn't really happened for us much in recent years unfortunately.

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