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Post #151 by GM17 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:13 am

Vatanen has been a better Larsson. Allows his linemates to play a calm cool game but can fucking rifle the puck

No, he doesn't slam people down and isn't as safe in his own end, but he's got other talents.
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Post #152 by vonbonds » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:35 am

Walter White wrote:I think he is a 2/3 tweener. And that trade is totally fair and tips towards us easily if Vats plays like he has been.

Yup, I agree. Defensemen are so valuable/expensive it was at worst a fair trade and I’d say even at this point we won it hands down.
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Post #153 by Walter White » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:37 am

Henrique had 6 points in 5 games after the trade and has 2 points in 8 games since

its almost like we knew he'd be that

and I couldnt care less about losing Blandisi and a 3rd rounder (which we get back if he re-signs IIRC)
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Post #154 by deLOUsional » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:49 am

Oh it was a 3rd.. thought it was a 2 for some reason.

It's basically Rico for Vatanen straight up. Either he comes back to us and we pay a 3 for him.. Or he stays there and we don't give up a pick all things considered.

I think henrique.. a middle 6 player.. is worth around a 3/4 defender so I'm fine with the deal. I honestly thought Vatanen would be better than he has been but he's been damn solid here. Expected more offensively and have pleasantly surprised defensively.
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Post #155 by TreasonWeasel » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:10 am

Walter White wrote:Henrique had 6 points in 5 games after the trade and has 2 points in 8 games since

its almost like we knew he'd be that

and I couldnt care less about losing Blandisi and a 3rd rounder (which we get back if he re-signs IIRC)

Yup

The way the league is you’re going to have to pay more to get defensemen - so even if Vatanen and Henrique are pretty comparable in terms of how much they help your team, Vatanen has more value
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Post #156 by CFD » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:22 am

Jim doesn’t like a Euro defender? Color me shocked. Sami has been very solid recently.

It always takes a defenseman a little bit of time to get used to playing in a new system
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Post #157 by NICO NICO PANIC » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:32 am

im wondering what jim's perceived value of henrique is. he'll have a stretch of 4-5 good games in a row followed by 10-15 where you wonder if he actually played that night.
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Post #158 by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:37 am

Sami Vatanen is an excellent defender who projects as a top pairing d-man. Think Rafalski with Stevens and Lidstrom. If we get him a #1 D to play with he'll really flourish.
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Post #159 by Walter White » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:38 am

OEL-Vatanen
Greene-Carlson
Butcher-Severson
Mueller-Santini

the 8 D lineup
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Post #160 by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:39 am

I'd venture Mueller and or Santini would be a part of an OEL swap. Likely Mueller
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Post #161 by Walter White » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:40 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:I'd venture Mueller and or Santini would be a part of an OEL swap. Likely Mueller


Mueller, McLeod, Speers, 2018 1st, Lovejoy (for cap reasons) for OEL
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Post #162 by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:41 am

I'd probably change Speers to Anderson, because I'd bet Chayka would like Anderson more.
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Post #163 by TreasonWeasel » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:44 am

None of those pieces leaving would have me weeping as a Devil’s fan tbh. Although Anderson instead of Speers would stink but it’s OEL we’re talking about
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Post #164 by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:46 am

Nor I. And yeah, Anderson would suck. But we also have Boqvist, Talvitie, Studenic, Zetterlund in the pipeline coming down. At some point the forward pieces have to be moved to help. Having prospect capital is so weird.
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Post #165 by TreasonWeasel » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:47 am

I wonder what Bastian’s value is around the league. He seems to be playing pretty well in the AHL and only just turned 20. Wonder if we could get away with dealing him in such a trade instead of Anderson
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Post #166 by Walter White » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:49 am

couple people in the OEL thread on HF think they'd get at least Hischier if they traded OEL lol
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Post #167 by TreasonWeasel » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:50 am

OEL and Keller maybe
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Post #168 by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:51 am

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Post #169 by CerebralGenesis » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:55 am

Are they really gonna move OEL this season?
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Post #170 by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:56 am

If he wants out, I don't see why not. You are gonna lose the player someday anyway, trading him now maximizes his value.
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Post #171 by CerebralGenesis » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:57 am

I'd imagine they would want to get him East too so that helps our cause.
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Post #172 by GM17 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:14 pm

Marcus Mareo Hotah wrote:I wonder what Bastian’s value is around the league. He seems to be playing pretty well in the AHL and only just turned 20. Wonder if we could get away with dealing him in such a trade instead of Anderson


Deal him + for Hoffman.
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Post #173 by TreasonWeasel » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:20 pm

I love Hoffman
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Post #174 by GM17 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:36 pm

I'll even take Bobby Ryan at 50% if they throw in Chabot. Maybe that'll save their owner enough bucks to move up from the value menu
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Post #176 by Walter White » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:39 pm

at least Matt Duchene whined his way out of Colorado and is now stuck in Ottawa
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Post #177 by da god » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:51 pm

deLOUsional wrote:Oh it was a 3rd.. thought it was a 2 for some reason.

It's basically Rico for Vatanen straight up. Either he comes back to us and we pay a 3 for him.. Or he stays there and we don't give up a pick all things considered.

I think henrique.. a middle 6 player.. is worth around a 3/4 defender so I'm fine with the deal. I honestly thought Vatanen would be better than he has been but he's been damn solid here. Expected more offensively and have pleasantly surprised defensively.

Interesting way of putting it. We either traded Henrique for Vatanen or a 3rd and 130 games of Henrique for Vatenen
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Post #178 by vonbonds » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:00 pm

Walter White wrote:at least Matt Duchene whined his way out of Colorado and is now stuck in Ottawa

It’s beautiful what happened to that whining baby
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Post #179 by Walter White » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:14 pm

another doozy from Jim

They both have sucked... Zacha is the biggest disappointment of this season and Johansson gives me flashbacks of Ryder nothingness on many nights.
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Post #180 by da god » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:16 pm

Zacha has made progress the last couple weeks but he’s not wrong.
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Post #181 by da god » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:16 pm

Biggest disappointment so far though is Zajac. Knew he couldn’t score but 2 points in 20 games is so bad.
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Post #182 by TreasonWeasel » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:19 pm

Zacha is 20
Johansson has been hurt most of the year and is finally playing well

He is wrong. He is a retard.
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Post #183 by Walter White » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:22 pm

just do this

Hall-Hischier-Bratt
Johansson-Zacha-Palmieri
Coleman-Zajac-Gibbons (elite defensive line)
Wood-Boyle-Noesen
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Post #184 by Balki Bartokomous » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:29 pm

It's so easy, but Hynes is so stupid.
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Post #185 by da god » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:57 pm

Isn’t that exactly what we ran yesterday
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Post #186 by Walter White » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:58 pm

The GOAT wrote:Isn’t that exactly what we ran yesterday


nope

Zajac played between MarJo and Palms and Zacha played with Wood and Noesen
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Post #187 by TreasonWeasel » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:02 pm

Zacha’s line has been good which is probably why they aren’t making a change. But at the same time I don’t think that Zajac line has a goal since being put together
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Post #188 by da god » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:07 pm

Put Boyle on the second line and Zajac on the 4th
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Post #189 by Balki Bartokomous » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:08 pm

Orrrrrr,put Zacha in the top six where he belongs.
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Post #190 by TreasonWeasel » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:22 pm

The GOAT wrote:Put Boyle on the second line and Zajac on the 4th

I’d be fine with that. Zajac just can’t be the second line center
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Post #191 by CFD » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:48 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:Orrrrrr,put Zacha in the top six where he belongs.

He doesn’t belong there but he’s probably the best option at this point
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Post #192 by Walter White » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:44 pm

Bernmeister never disappoints

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/j ... y.2430713/

JT Miller
Marc Staal (cap dump)

for

Penguins 2018 1st
Penguins 2018 2nd
Penguins 2019 1st
Penguins 2019 2nd
Justin Schultz


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Post #193 by vonbonds » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:47 pm

That’s pretty impressive. JT Miller is a good player so maybe include 2020 picks too
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Post #194 by TreasonWeasel » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:39 pm

Four picks and a player who, all told, is probably just as good as Miller

Oh and they take on an awful defenseman with an awful contract too
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Post #195 by Scott04 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:42 pm

Would have been 6 picks, but they took on a cap dump
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Post #196 by deLOUsional » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:54 pm

Not sure the pens even do it straight up for schultz honestly. They need him more than Miller.
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Post #197 by CerebralGenesis » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:35 pm

that thread is actually retarded. He keeps saying, if you don't want to pay then we are out.

YOU MADE THE FIRST OFFER/POST
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Post #198 by Walter White » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:48 pm

today's hot take from Jim:

OEL -Severson would be a terrible pairing. I mean like league worst top 4 bad.


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Post #200 by Dat Boi » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:56 pm

To be fair pride night is stupid and begging for a lawsuit

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