NHL33 wrote:First rounders drafted as high as 1, 2 and 3 are anticipated to make the immediate jump into the NHL. This means you have a 2nd rounder that is essentially a late 1st, 3rd that is practically a late 2nd, etc.
Besides O'Reilly it doesn't really seem like we've caught much. Barrie is a good example of someone we should be able to uncover -- even if he fails to develop further, it's more of a showing from him than the rest.
OK, our 1st rounders have had fairly good success (Hishon was unfortunate / health is always unpredictable and Siemens is TBD), but I expected better depth. More Olver types where they show some promise with accompanying flaws, but enough to get at least a stint in the NHL or vie heavily for one...not sure fire top-6 forwards but tweeners who impress at camp and make you think twice.
Again, this may be premature on my part. Maybe it should be roughly 5 years after every draft before we start grading the non-1st rounders, including forwards. Doesn't seem like we've done a particularly good job stock piling raw talent in Lake Erie, though that's likely a somewhat flawed conclusion on my part due to reliance on statistics.
I believe that the Avs have drafted the most NHL players out of any other team in the league. I am having a tough time finding this article. Not all have played with the Avs (i.e. Boychuck, Gilbert, Pahlsson, Parrish etc.) but were Avs prospects.
Overall the Avs have a decent record of drafting players in the later rounds:
Players that had impact with the team:
Players that could have had impact but were traded or injured:
- Marc Denis (he had some good season in CBJ & yes, I know he was back up to Roy for a while and obvious why he was traded)
- Jones (truly do believe if Jones had not lost his speed he would be dangerous)
- Svatos (we all know the story, 32 goals, 26 goals, not soft. Too bad he got injured often)
- Holos (everything that could go wrong, did go wrong - bad coaching, injuries, called up during injuries, could argue alienated.. wouldn't mind giving him another shot)
Players who are decent 3rd/4th/backup:
- Brent Jonson
This is back as 1995 draft: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00005307.html
I know it is unfair to judge this overall as the scouting department and scouting in general has changed a lot over the past 20 years. However the Avs have had their success, like every team. I would say we are one of the better teams when it comes to scouting and developing offensive talent in the later rounds as well.
WarriorOfGandhi wrote:Bigras voted best defensive D in the OHL Eastern conference by coaches
Cubbards not bare?
VLoo wrote:I think Bigras' basement is bottom pairing, but I think he's a #3 or 4 when it's all said and done. You never know how they're gonna transition to the NHL at this age, but I could see him getting the 9 game try out next year. Siemens I just don't care for.
I hope he is our Justin Faulk! I too am unsure on Siemens. However if Barrie has taught me anything its to wait and see. Hopefully he can at least be a top 4 dman like Hejda. That would help tremendously.