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Post #451 by NHL33 » Sat May 10, 2014 7:06 pm

Yawn. This thread has become so awful. Dempsey's posts are bad and he should feel bad.
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Post #452 by chewey » Sat May 10, 2014 8:22 pm

dempsey_k wrote:You say that every exciting year. Why don't you just snort some coke off a hooker's butthole and get it over with.


dempsey_k wrote:He just found Jesus, who took him by the hand and led him into the electrical room of his local rink, and began blowing him, and then took his b-hole for granted like a Senior would. The 'electrical' moment made everything else in life "boring" in comparison.


Either you are on your period, or you've run out of list of guys you can pin your pregnancy on.

Good luck on dealing with that bud!
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Post #453 by chewey » Sat May 10, 2014 8:28 pm

ABasin wrote:Are you referring to the NBA playoffs here?


I love playing basketball but cannot stand to watch it. So boring. Its back and forth of the same shit for hours and then in the end, maybe the final 2 minutes actually matter. I have never sat through a NBA game and I've never seen a NBA finals. Would rather just play some ball.

The last few weeks of hockey has been awesome. In the first round, the Avs went to OT in game 7, for fuckssakes.


Nah, this isn't Avs related. To be honest it was fun watching the Avs play but Minnesota sucked a lot of enjoyment out of the series for me. I would have prefer Chicago, LA, SJ or Ducks. I mean, the Avs were already gonna get beaten. Might as well have been a fun, high temp game to enjoy than semi-boring hockey.

In fact, the Col-Min, SJ-LA, Ana-Dal, and even the NYR-Phi series were all really good. Even the StL-Chi and Pitt/CLB series were pretty good. In this round, every series has been quite good, minus perhaps the NYR-Pitt series.

I think the hockey has been great.


I haven't gotten into the games. Maybe I don't care about hockey as much anymore? On paper a lot of exciting stuff has happened, but when I watch the games I feel it just hasn't lived up to the excitement. I found the playoffs in 2009 and before a lot more entertaining. 2012 was also pretty good.

NHL33 wrote:Yawn. This thread has become so awful. Dempsey's posts are bad and he should feel bad.


I like this fox.
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Post #454 by NHL33 » Sat May 10, 2014 9:09 pm

Stephen King had a book about aliens and them making humans hosts or something. There was a male alien birthing scene IIRC. That was a very not good novel.
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Post #455 by Bow Tie » Sun May 11, 2014 9:51 am

NHL33 wrote:Stephen King had a book about aliens and them making humans hosts or something. There was a male alien birthing scene IIRC. That was a very not good novel.


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Post #456 by ABasin » Tue May 13, 2014 10:13 am

chewey wrote:I haven't gotten into the games. Maybe I don't care about hockey as much anymore?


I went through that earlier this season. It passed.

Playoffs are really good.
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Post #457 by NHL33 » Tue May 13, 2014 10:28 pm

My predictions were:
Rags in 7
Habs in 4
Chicago in 5
LA in 5

I was really hoping to strike lightning with 1 of the short series predictions. None succeeded. :(
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Post #458 by chewey » Wed May 14, 2014 12:24 am

Hey Wild,

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Post #459 by Brain of J » Wed May 14, 2014 12:28 am

My final 4 I picked before the playoffs on NHL.com were...

Chicago
LA
Boston
New York

Half way there.
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Post #460 by stan:getz » Wed May 14, 2014 9:45 am

Montreal wins tonight.
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Post #461 by chewey » Wed May 14, 2014 9:51 pm

FUCK YOU BRUINS!! CANADA!! CANADA!!
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Post #462 by WarriorOfGandhi » Wed May 14, 2014 10:21 pm

I can't decide if I hate the frogs more than I hate boston fans
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Post #463 by NHL33 » Fri May 16, 2014 9:41 pm

NHL33 wrote:My predictions were:
Rags in 7
Habs in 4
Chicago in 5
LA in 5

I was really hoping to strike lightning with 1 of the short series predictions. None succeeded. :(

Looking like a sweep.
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Post #464 by NHL33 » Fri May 16, 2014 10:49 pm

Feeling iffy on the conference finals, but I think I'll go with the Habs and Kings.
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Post #465 by stan:getz » Fri May 16, 2014 11:01 pm

Habs are winning the cup this year. LA will beat Chicago.

Habs in 6

Kings in 7

Habs in 6 SFC
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Post #466 by chewey » Fri May 16, 2014 11:55 pm

Kings > Chicago. Too many weapons, too deep.
Habs and Rags, honestly I think King Henrik stands on his head.

Going with Kings - Rangers for finals.
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Post #467 by ABasin » Sat May 17, 2014 8:21 am

NHL33 wrote:Dux are fake contenders.


Do tell. That was ridiculous.

I have a feeling the LA-Chicago series is going to be better than the Finals.
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Post #468 by ABasin » Sat May 17, 2014 12:26 pm

dempsey_k wrote:Only one exact, but only one I got wrong pretty much everyone got wrong.

I'm going with

Montreal 4 New York 2
Chicago 2 Los Angeles 4


Montreal in 6.
Chicago in 7.
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Post #469 by NHL33 » Sat May 17, 2014 4:01 pm

Yeah, not a promising start. I'm fine with picking the Kings, but I was iffy on the Eastern Conference. Still, just a 1-0 deficit; I think they'll still win the series.
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Post #470 by stan:getz » Sat May 17, 2014 5:49 pm

Habs will still win this.
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Post #471 by WarriorOfGandhi » Mon May 19, 2014 12:10 am

ABasin wrote:Do tell. That was ridiculous.

I have a feeling the LA-Chicago series is going to be better than the Finals.


it might be quite premature to say so, but right now it looks like LA/Chicago could turn into Colorado/Detroit with relative ease. Those two teams could legitimately duke it out in the Conference Finals for the next five years and whoever comes out on top will steamroll the East to the Cup because no team (except maybe Pittsburgh firing on all cylinders) can match the Kings or Hawks in depth or top-end talent at all positions. No other team in the West is on their level and there's no reason to think either one will cool down anytime in the next few years.
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Post #472 by WarriorOfGandhi » Mon May 19, 2014 10:34 am

Pittsburgh's problem is not, and never has been, coaching.
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Post #473 by ABasin » Mon May 19, 2014 12:00 pm

WarriorOfGandhi wrote:Pittsburgh's problem is not, and never has been, coaching.


What do you think their problem is?
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Post #474 by ABasin » Mon May 19, 2014 2:11 pm

stan:getz wrote:Habs will still win this.


Uh oh…..

Budaj's the man.
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Post #475 by WarriorOfGandhi » Mon May 19, 2014 3:06 pm

dempsey_k wrote:This is contrary to all reason and logic and observation. Bylsma has shown himself to be a slouch time and again in adapting and running rigid systems that can withstand assaults and bounce back. Zero resilience.

I suppose from your isolating it to one single factor, you'll try to say that Fleury is THE problem. I'm sure that Bylsma could be more successful with a better goalie, but the argument applies to any coach. Bylsma's recognizable success is the sum of that particular roster plus a human with a pulse in charge. In any case, with Määttä growing and Pouliot on the horizon, it's reasonable to expect their defense will improve markedly. They should use the compliance buyout on Fleury if possible. Zatkoff is ready. Supplement him with someone like Stalock via free agency.


when you have Crosby and Malkin, all you need your coach to do is put them on the ice as often as possible with high offensive zone starts and lots of PP time. Everything else a Penguins coach does is secondary to that, because the majority of wins result from their production and the majority of loses result from any lack of production (as it did in this playoffs). Penguins fans criticize Bylsma for a lot of things, most quite minor but some legit (reasonable gripes include his determination to make Pittsburgh a grinding rather than rushing team) and miss the forest for the trees. Their next coach can change the attacking style and change the lines, but neither of those things are going to be more than superficially helpful.

ABasin wrote:What do you think their problem is?


for the past four years prior to this season, it was Fleury. This year it is a mix of the defense's inability to rush the puck and their bottom-six forwards getting run over. Half their D can't transition effectively and Letang has fallen off a cliff. Maatta is a surefire bet to regress next season. None of their bottom six forwards except Sutter are worth shit. Look at thisand take a guess how many times Pittsburgh won when the Crosby and Malkin lines contributed <2 goals.
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Post #476 by Bow Tie » Mon May 19, 2014 7:58 pm

I don't know that Bylsma is helping, but I'm not sure he's the issue, either. I think it's a problem when you structure and enable your whole team around a leader who's a bitch. Whoever takes that job is only ever going to be able to do so much
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Post #477 by ABasin » Mon May 19, 2014 10:06 pm

WarriorOfGandhi wrote:when you have Crosby and Malkin, all you need your coach to do is put them on the ice as often as possible with high offensive zone starts and lots of PP time. Everything else a Penguins coach does is secondary to that, because the majority of wins result from their production and the majority of loses result from any lack of production (as it did in this playoffs). Penguins fans criticize Bylsma for a lot of things, most quite minor but some legit (reasonable gripes include his determination to make Pittsburgh a grinding rather than rushing team) and miss the forest for the trees. Their next coach can change the attacking style and change the lines, but neither of those things are going to be more than superficially helpful.



for the past four years prior to this season, it was Fleury. This year it is a mix of the defense's inability to rush the puck and their bottom-six forwards getting run over. Half their D can't transition effectively and Letang has fallen off a cliff. Maatta is a surefire bet to regress next season. None of their bottom six forwards except Sutter are worth shit. Look at thisand take a guess how many times Pittsburgh won when the Crosby and Malkin lines contributed <2 goals.


Thanks for the post.

I agree that Fleury has had some shitty moments, but doesn't it say something about top-heavy salaried players, who don't play that way? Pittsburgh has 3 players taking up ~$26M of cap space. One (Letang) was hurt this season, but the other $18M wasn't. And they didn't get it done. When Pitt won the Cup back in 2008, Malkin was the single best hockey player on the planet for a month or two.

While coaching game plans (Sacco's permanent erection for a 4th line grinding game is an example) do have a part to play, I'm wondering whether the top-heavy salaried roster doesn't also. With such high salary guys, how many good players can you put on their wing? How much quality depth can you have? Shut down those 2 guys, the team dies.
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Post #478 by WarriorOfGandhi » Mon May 19, 2014 10:57 pm

dempsey_k wrote:If by "falling off a cliff" you mean "had a stroke", you're a more terrible human being than I imagined. Letang looked exceptional for the Pens in the playoffs, IMO. He's nowhere near a Keith, Doughty, Weber, or Suter, if anything he's a glorified Barrie, but I'd cut him a little fucking slack for this season. Finns don't have sophomore slumps. If Maatta has a sophomore slump, I'll find you his Swedish birth certificate. Anyway, Pouliot, Dumoulin, Despres all look like they have strong potential, Pouliot especially. Curious that you highlight their D problems and don't point any of the blame on that at Bylsma. Do you seriously think Sutter or Quenneville (or even Yeo or Trotz for that matter) would have the exact same results with the same blueline?


you're looking at the details and not the big picture. Pittsburgh's D, writ large, lacks mobility. That makes it easier for the opposing team to forecheck and more difficult to transition into offense, and that's something the coach cannot change. Their young players could make up for that in the immediate future, but A) I'm talking about this year's Penguins and not next year's Penguins and B) I'm hugely skeptical about Pittsburgh's ability to develop talent. It's been 8 years since they've drafted a player who has suited up for more than 100 games in gold and black, they do not get the benefit of the doubt.

could a hypothetical better coach have done better with Pittsburgh's roster? Yes. Can any coach win when either Fluery has a .850 save % or when Crosby's line has 6 goals in 13 games? No. Full stop.

ABasin wrote:Thanks for the post.

I agree that Fleury has had some shitty moments, but doesn't it say something about top-heavy salaried players, who don't play that way? Pittsburgh has 3 players taking up ~$26M of cap space. One (Letang) was hurt this season, but the other $18M wasn't. And they didn't get it done. When Pitt won the Cup back in 2008, Malkin was the single best hockey player on the planet for a month or two.

While coaching game plans (Sacco's permanent erection for a 4th line grinding game is an example) do have a part to play, I'm wondering whether the top-heavy salaried roster doesn't also. With such high salary guys, how many good players can you put on their wing? How much quality depth can you have? Shut down those 2 guys, the team dies.


it's true, but I don't see it as a negative so much as the other side of the coin of having the two best players on the planet. You can't build an unbeatable NHL team; each one has weaknesses, and Pittsburgh's is they can't commit assets to depth. That's not inherently a bad thing -- Crosby and Malkin playing 40 minutes of a game is better than Crosby and a bunch of above-average players playing 60 -- but it sure as hell backfires when one of them doesn't produce.

Pittsburgh could use some changes, but overall they'll be fine. Unless Crosby or Malkin leave, they'll be a top five team for the next decade. They don't need a coach, they need to get the most dollar value for the cap space they have left after those two get their paychecks.
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Post #479 by NHL33 » Tue May 20, 2014 1:34 am

I didn't sign up for a Price-less Habs. Mutiny.
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Post #480 by NHL33 » Mon May 26, 2014 11:17 pm

NHL33 wrote:Feeling iffy on the conference finals, but I think I'll go with the Habs and Kings.

NHL33 wrote:Yeah, not a promising start. I'm fine with picking the Kings, but I was iffy on the Eastern Conference. Still, just a 1-0 deficit; I think they'll still win the series.

Kings right on track. Montreal not.

I knew the EC match-up was a bit of a toss-up though. Tokarski has been good, so Habs can't pin this down on the Price injury.
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Post #481 by NHL33 » Wed May 28, 2014 8:21 pm

Blues have secured the services of Joakim Lindstrom the God.
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Post #482 by NHL33 » Wed May 28, 2014 8:43 pm

hek wrote:The former Av?

Is there any other God?
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Post #483 by NHL33 » Wed May 28, 2014 8:53 pm

hek wrote:I don't believe in God so I'm not sure how to answer.

Even though He played for us on our home ice? For shame...
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Post #484 by NHL33 » Wed May 28, 2014 8:56 pm

hek wrote:The miracles were forgettable, apparently. And it was an era of much suffering.

He was testing us. Everything has a purpose.
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Post #485 by ABasin » Thu May 29, 2014 9:48 am

You guys still bored with the playoffs?

What a game last night.
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Post #486 by chewey » Thu May 29, 2014 4:37 pm

ABasin wrote:You guys still bored with the playoffs?


Yes.

What a game last night.


I know right! What a bunt by Gose and great base running by Pillar to superman home for the walk-off win!







































..We were talking about baseball right? Fuck it. We were talking about baseball!
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Post #488 by stan:getz » Thu May 29, 2014 7:19 pm

I have hardly watched any playoffs since round 1
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Post #489 by chewey » Thu May 29, 2014 10:24 pm

stan:getz wrote:I have hardly watched any playoffs since round 1


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Post #490 by NHL33 » Thu May 29, 2014 11:54 pm

I've barely watched the playoffs since the first round. Don't care. Too busy with work to bother.
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Post #491 by ABasin » Fri May 30, 2014 9:02 am

dempsey_k wrote:Yeah, Spacehog just played, no reason to stick around for Aerosmith


Yeah, you boys are missing some damn good hockey. That last Chi-LA game was the best game I've seen in awhile. The OT was fantastic.
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Post #492 by ABasin » Sat May 31, 2014 10:32 am

dempsey_k wrote:Well said, AB. These whipper snappers are just unappreciative of good hockey when they see it, because they're so concerned about the prom.


Heh. And baseball is certainly no alternative.

Another excellent game last night. Best playoff series in years, IMO. Wonder if either Chi or LA will have anything left for NY.
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Post #493 by klingsor » Sat May 31, 2014 11:25 am

dempsey_k wrote:Well said, AB. These whipper snappers are just unappreciative of good hockey when they see it, because they're so concerned about the prom.


Here's a useful link for the prom:

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/colorado/guns
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