Offseason plans

ABasin · Post #101 by **ABasin** » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:35 am

dempsey_k wrote:Yeah, just see what sticks at this point.

BTW guys we signed Iginla. I feel we're not nearly as appreciative of this fact as we should be, regardless of his age. We have Jarome Iginla.

Should be fun next season. Not so sure what that's going to look like in year 3 of that contract.

VLoo · Post #102 by **VLoo** » Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:04 am

Has always been one of my favourite players in the league. Very happy to have him.

WarriorOfGandhi · Post #103 by **WarriorOfGandhi** » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:52 pm

Iginla is going to look hella weird in an Avs jersey

Bow Tie · Post #104 by **Bow Tie** » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:30 pm

hek wrote:I'm interested to see if there is any magic left between him and Tanguay. Apparently they were good friends and enjoyed playing with one another in Calgary.

VLoo · Post #105 by **VLoo** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:05 am

Bow Tie wrote:

Brain of J · Post #106 by **Brain of J** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:46 pm

I know a good bit about Winchester from his Ottawa days. His offensive scoring ability is limited, however, he has really strong puck skills and is fantastic along the boards with the puck. Cliche is easily knocked off the puck, Winchester is pretty hard to get off it. It may just be a 4th line move, but it's a really good one because he'll help them get some offensive zone time, which they rarely got last year.

VLoo · Post #107 by **VLoo** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:04 pm

O'Reilly looking for a 1 year, 6.75 mil deal in arbitration.

NHL33 · Post #108 by **NHL33** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:33 pm

Just get it over with and give him $6M for 8 years.

NHL33 · Post #109 by **NHL33** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:09 pm

hek wrote:Hopefully Sakic notifies the other 29 GMs in the league O'Reilly is available the second the ink is dry on that contract.

They could have locked him up for $5M/year about 18 months ago and the same sentiment would have held.

Well, now he's worth more. It's not a depreciating salary cap and neither is his play.

NHL33 · Post #110 by **NHL33** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:43 pm

hek wrote:Shoulda, coulda, woulda. It didn't happen. I don't think it's ever going to happen at this point. And let's not forget he's done this with two separate front office groups at this point.

Maximize value, get a good player or two and be done with it. He's not Patrice Bergeron as badly as Avs fans would like him to be.

He might be an asshole at the negotiating table but he's still pretty damn good.

He was worth $5M. He's worth $6M now. He's a part of the forward corps key to the team's success.

Just pay him the money, include a long contractual term, and trade him later if cap space becomes a major concern and MacKinnon has more experience and dominance.

You maximize his value by having him play for the team, not dealing him off for a reasonable but not overwhelming return.

VLoo · Post #111 by **VLoo** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:33 pm

dempsey_k wrote:Drafting Bleackley was a telegraphing of intent.

I figured this out a few days after the draft when I decided to actually look at who we drafted with a bit of interest. A lot of similarities in play apparently.

Brain of J · Post #112 by **Brain of J** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:49 pm

NHL33 wrote:Just get it over with and give him $6M for 8 years.

He would already be signed if that was the asking price. It sounds like negotiations start with 6.5M, and that's not even counting UFA years, where he will no doubt want more.

NHL33 · Post #113 by **NHL33** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:21 am

hek wrote:I think that ship has sailed, Foxy.

Probably. Sakic gets paid a lot of money though.

If the Blackhawks can spend upwards of $21M on Toews and Kane, I sure as hell don't want to hear this team be miserly when the prospects of having Duchene, Landeskog, O'Reilly and MacKinnon for under that amount is possible by virtue of Nate's ELC and overall group age. Take advantage of it and trade later as needed. Other teams do it and manage to come out relatively unscathed; we should attempt the same. There's no CBA of doom on the horizon so I won't tolerate excuses from this front office. If O'Reilly is gone, it better be for an amazing return.

Dump Wilson using magic. Get rid of Briere with another fucking wasted 2nd rounder if needed. Just keep the forward core for another season or two at the very least.

Brain of J wrote:He would already be signed if that was the asking price. It sounds like negotiations start with 6.5M, and that's not even counting UFA years, where he will no doubt want more.

I think they want him signed for around or under $5.5M ala Landeskog. IIRC $5M was the rumored figure that the Avs think he's worth.

If they're looking for $6.75M in arbitration, I think $6-6.25M is realistically what they are hoping for. No need to pinch pennies now, we have some time and there's always the 10% summer overage allowance.

Brain of J · Post #114 by **Brain of J** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:55 am

NHL33 wrote:Probably. Sakic gets paid a lot of money though.

If the Blackhawks can spend upwards of $21M on Toews and Kane, I sure as hell don't want to hear this team be miserly when the prospects of having Duchene, Landeskog, O'Reilly and MacKinnon for under that amount is possible by virtue of Nate's ELC and overall group age. Take advantage of it and trade later as needed. Other teams do it and manage to come out relatively unscathed; we should attempt the same. There's no CBA of doom on the horizon so I won't tolerate excuses from this front office. If O'Reilly is gone, it better be for an amazing return.

Dump Wilson using magic. Get rid of Briere with another fucking wasted 2nd rounder if needed. Just keep the forward core for another season or two at the very least.

I think they want him signed for around or under $5.5M ala Landeskog. IIRC $5M was the rumored figure that the Avs think he's worth.

If they're looking for $6.75M in arbitration, I think $6-6.25M is realistically what they are hoping for. No need to pinch pennies now, we have some time and there's always the 10% summer overage allowance.

There's no way they thought he was worth 5M. If they filed for arb, they knew his price couldn't go below 5.525M. I think O'Reilly wants 6.5M at least.

NHL33 · Post #115 by **NHL33** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:21 pm

Brain of J wrote:There's no way they thought he was worth 5M. If they filed for arb, they knew his price couldn't go below 5.525M. I think O'Reilly wants 6.5M at least.

Yeah, the minimum qualifying offer is higher than $5M; I think that's what they feel O'Reilly represents as a player though.

Wouldn't be surprised in the least that O'Reilly wants the most money; these are not saints. I don't think $6M is even being considered long-term on the Avs' side and that's problematic.

VLoo · Post #116 by **VLoo** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:38 pm

Giguere officially retiring. No surprise there.

VLoo · Post #117 by **VLoo** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:29 pm

Why are we giving out 2nds like candy? Lack of a viable backup and those 2 deals for 2nd rounders are the only issues I've had with new management thus far.

WarriorOfGandhi · Post #118 by **WarriorOfGandhi** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:09 pm

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NHL33 · Post #119 by **NHL33** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:02 pm

I believe in Berra. The next Ben Bishop. Believe.

VLoo · Post #120 by **VLoo** » Sat May 16, 2015 11:37 am

hek wrote:http://avalanche.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=767770

Avs signed another four liner.

Eh. Wick had a nice year(in the EC, but still), and Everberg was a pleasant surprise. They seem to have an eye for these Yuro types. We'll wait and see.

WarriorOfGandhi · Post #121 by **WarriorOfGandhi** » Mon May 18, 2015 9:08 pm

Avs hire Columbus' assistant GM. One hopes he can do better than the braintrust that traded for Briere and Berra

Alex Jones · Post #122 by **Alex Jones** » Tue May 19, 2015 11:18 pm

Berra was all Allaire.

VLoo · Post #123 by **VLoo** » Thu May 28, 2015 12:58 pm

Rangersfanatic wrote:Apparently Roy has talked to Radulov about coming back next year. Another KHL domino.

VLoo · Post #124 by **VLoo** » Thu May 28, 2015 6:39 pm

I have no idea where he heard that from but the KHL is in shambles right now and quite a few guys have terminated their contracts already. Radulov obviously has his connection to Roy from his Jr days and his last stint with Nashville made him a UFA. But really, I have no idea if there's any weight to this rumour whatsoever, just saw it on the NJ broad.

VLoo · Post #125 by **VLoo** » Sat May 30, 2015 9:55 am

I can't imagine ROR's cap going up much, if at all if we decide to/he let's us retain him. I thought we were in a pretty good spot cap wise, but I also haven't checked in some time.

VLoo · Post #126 by **VLoo** » Sun May 31, 2015 11:38 am

You could argue that dealing Varly for defensive help would limit the need for a goaltender of his calibre. I'm always going to prefer having a goaltender capable of stealing games, but we need to find a way to shore up that back end in a big way.

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