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Post #1 by NHL33 » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:32 pm

Parenteau just scored but they called it off for goaltender interference by Rene Bourque. There was contact.
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Post #2 by VLoo » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:53 pm

So do we just get McDavid now?
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Post #3 by chewey » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:03 pm

VLoo wrote:So do we just get McDavid now?


Pretty much. Starting the tank early this year. McDavid is the best replacement for RoR. 0-82? I think so.
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Post #4 by NHL33 » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:09 pm

Corsi doesn't mean shit for us. We are the 1%.
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Post #5 by chewey » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:19 pm

NHL33 wrote:Corsi doesn't mean shit for us. We are the 1%.


....and they score. GG Wolfie. GG.
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Post #6 by VLoo » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:23 pm

#FreeRedmond
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Post #7 by chewey » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:31 pm

hek wrote:Glad I turned it off.


Football game is pretty good right now. Too bad there is no baseball till tomorrow. These playoffs have been awesome.
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Post #8 by NHL33 » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:43 pm

The game was blacked out for me from the beginning, and since it's the Wild I figured it'd be boring anyway. Relevant season opener is next game.
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Post #9 by chewey » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:10 pm

1 game of the season doesn't mean shit honestly. Still a long way to go. Didn't we crush the Ducks 6-0 initially and they went to win the best record in the NHL last year? Not saying we'll win the president's trophy but this game certainly doesn't indicate we will be picking McDavid either.

Pretty sure this team has a lot of "kinks" to work out in terms of chemistry. RoR/Mac at wing/center will be resolved soon I'm sure. Will be interesting to see how they'll adjust as they cannot "surprise" teams anymore. Though one thing is still sure, our defense is shit.
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Post #10 by NHL33 » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:16 pm

There's no thing as surprising any team. It's not that complicated of a sport, it's an 82 games long season, and every organization has scouts. Anyone who lost to us last season with our defense is bad and should feel bad.
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Post #11 by chewey » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:45 pm

Pft, forgetting about winning another game. Will we ever score again?
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Post #12 by ABasin » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:51 pm

NHL33 wrote:There's no thing as surprising any team. It's not that complicated of a sport


Sure it is.

If not complicated, then certainly an awful lot of possible permutations game in and game out.
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Post #13 by clawfirst » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:03 am

Wow do you guys ever jump early. You all would have committed suicide years ago if you were leafs fans.

Lol commuted auto correct
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Post #14 by NHL33 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:04 am

Suicide has a lot of permutations too. Incredibly complex topic.
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Post #15 by chewey » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:28 am

clawfirst wrote:Wow do you guys ever jump early. You all would have committed suicide years ago if you were leafs fans.

Lol commuted auto correct


Its game 1 of the season. I think we've got a big enough of sample size bub. Don't tell me how to live my life!!

P.S. Lol leafs.

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How about no.
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Post #16 by ABasin » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:05 am

NHL33 wrote:Suicide has a lot of permutations too. Incredibly complex topic.


Going for full-out asshole right off the bat this season eh, 33? Good to know. Appreciate the heads up.
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Post #17 by NHL33 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:01 pm

Don't play the victim. You're as good and bad as anyone here.

Look at our blueline last season and tell me what permutations make it that easy for us to 'surprise' an entire conference to almost obtain the first seed.
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Post #18 by VLoo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:19 pm

Where's Stan to call us all a bunch of faggots and set us in line when we need him?
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Post #19 by NHL33 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:25 pm

Lines today:
McGinn - Duchene - Iginla
Landeskog - O'Reilly - Everberg
Tanguay - MacKinnon - Briere
McLeod - Cliche - Talbot

Brad Stuart - Erik Johnson
Nick Holden - Tyson Barrie
Jan Hejda - Ryan Wilson

Cliche at center due to health of Mitchell and Winchester.
Guenin and Redmon both are healthy scratches.
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Post #20 by Brain of J » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:33 pm

Wilson is playing with Stuart. Not sure the other pairings.
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Post #21 by NHL33 » Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:13 am

Didn't catch the game live but I did see one period and a half or so on replay before deciding it was enough.

EJ's penalty was dumb. I don't know if he was angry for some reason after the 1st game, which I couldn't catch due to blackout restrictions, but he has to be smarter than that.

Wild were all over the Avs. Varlamov was fine and individually some of the talent like Duchene and MacKinnon was as well, but the offense had little cohesion. Might just be a matter of time, though I think we probably could use some personnel upgrade. Not sold on Briere.

On the plus side Barrie doesn't look negatively affected by the injury.

Next week they have 4 games spread out against the Bruins, Leafs, Sens and Habs. While that can go horribly wrong, it'll be a better representation of how good or bad this team is currently. Minnesota is simply better overall and w/o line chemistry, we have no advantage besides turtling.
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Post #22 by stan:getz » Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:10 pm

Hey you guys are all faggots
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Post #23 by VLoo » Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:59 pm

VLoo wrote:Where's Stan to call us all a bunch of faggots and set us in line when we need him?


stan:getz wrote:Hey you guys are all faggots


hek wrote:Berra with a good game it seems. Surely it must be a mistake.


Power of Stan, bro.
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Post #24 by Brain of J » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:04 pm

Berra was good in camp. He did play well.

Tanguay looks like shit right now. Briere looks better than him.

ROR looks like he doesn't care out there.

Defense is actually not playing bad these last two games. Barrie looks he's going to be a star and Holden has been a different player from about March of last year on.
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Post #25 by NHL33 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:10 pm

Tanguay and Stuart look in fairly poor form. Everberg and Iginla both surpassed expectaions.

MacKinnon looks like he needs to settle down when not playing with Duchene (e.g. get back to playing with players of normal caliber).

Haven't seen enough of the team this season to make any concrete opinions, but the defense is concerning.
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Post #26 by VLoo » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:18 pm

Varly with a groin injury. Going on the IR. Welp.
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Post #27 by stan:getz » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:42 pm

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Post #28 by stan:getz » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:55 pm

BERRA IS TOAST
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Post #29 by stan:getz » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:56 pm

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Post #30 by NHL33 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:34 pm

I missed the first, are we playing well or is it the Sens playing poorly?
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Post #31 by chewey » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:45 pm

Varly - Out
Berra - Out

Next up: Duchene / MacK and the tank will launch.

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...actually if EJ went out this wouldn't be a terrible joke. lol. Without him our defense is shit.
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Post #32 by NHL33 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:13 pm

Call up Hishon and play Redmond. That's the winning ticket.
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Post #33 by MP » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:49 pm

I think you guys are going to miss stastny. Hopefully varly isn't out too long...
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Post #34 by Brain of J » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:59 pm

Team looks very disjointed right now. The best players are taking shortcuts and aren't playing the way they're capable of. That's going to lead to issues.

Cliche better not be played over Everberg next game, but it's time to see what Redmond can do.
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Post #35 by stan:getz » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:03 am

Good to have the avs back where they belong. Now maybe I can afford a ticket to a game...
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Post #36 by NHL33 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:19 am

I think Tanguay needs some time to come back to form. Everberg seemed to click a bit, keep him in the top-6.

Since Mitchell is back, they can roll a top-6 of:
Everberg/O'Reilly-Duchene-Iginla
Landeskog-MacKinnon-Everberg/O'Reilly

Let Briere, McGinn, Mitchell and Tanguay sort it out in the bottom-6.


Didn't look at the stats, but think faceoffs have been pretty bad. Stastny is obviously missed but he also had a career season; given that it's a swap of Iginla for Stastny, we should be nowhere as bad as we are offensively. Last season the ticket was more than just Varlamov -- it was Varlamov having a Hart contending season AND the offense having crazy chemistry AND Roy being an upgrade over Sacco.

Right now it's a downgrade, at least in the short-term, offensively when it shouldn't be. Defense looks shit tier but who thought we'd still be rolling out Guenin and Holden? (Yes, Holden was phenomenal in the playoff series but he doesn't exactly have a large backing sample size of success.) Stuart has looked shaky to me albeit in very limited viewing. Barrie has continued to be a stud, but Hejda started off strong last year. Goaltending is on a prayer for Varlamov.

I say we'll improve slightly defensively, regain chemistry, and see where the goaltending winds up (it's a semi-lost cause w/o Varlamov any season). Too many things went right last time for our success, it's hard to replicate that but playoff contention will be viable barring unforeseen circumstances.
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Post #37 by NHL33 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:24 am

Also, I have NHL GameCenter. If the team ends up blowing chunks anyway I'll just watch other games. Hooray.
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Post #38 by chewey » Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:13 am

NHL33 wrote:Didn't look at the stats, but think faceoffs have been pretty bad. Stastny is obviously missed but he also had a career season;


I am not sure if you mean he had a career year in faceoffs or a career year in points, but both would be wrong. Stastny has had a 53.2 FO% 2010-2011, 55.4 FO% 2011-2012, 52.4 FO% 2012-2013, 54.1 FO% 2013-2014. He was pretty much in the top 20-30 since 2010 in FO% and his best year was in 2011-2012. On average he is around a 53 FO% guy which still ranks high. Duchene and RoR have been over the map on their FO% wins throughout the years. If you meant points, his rookie season was his highest at 78 points in 82 games and his sophomore season was his highest PPG at 71 points in 66 games.

So, not a career year, in any way, from Stastny.

given that it's a swap of Iginla for Stastny, we should be nowhere as bad as we are offensively.
Yes and no. Stastny was a playmaker who was always able to cover for his partners defensive lapses, just letting them focus on offense. Iggy is a goal scorer who, and while I don't want to say useless without the puck, is not as effective as Stastny without the puck. Plus Iggy is terribly slow to start the season. I am sure he'll pick up as the season goes on.


Right now it's a downgrade, at least in the short-term, offensively when it shouldn't be. Defense looks shit tier but who thought we'd still be rolling out Guenin and Holden? (Yes, Holden was phenomenal in the playoff series but he doesn't exactly have a large backing sample size of success.) Stuart has looked shaky to me albeit in very limited viewing. Barrie has continued to be a stud, but Hejda started off strong last year. Goaltending is on a prayer for Varlamov.
I don't know if the defense got shitter. However it certainly didn't take a step forward. More like a tippy toe forward and then a step sideways.

Also the advance stats guys aren't wrong. Not in the regression part, that is obvious. This team does not control the puck enough during the game and gives opponents too many opportunities. That can be attributed to shitty defense, growing young offense but something that this team needs to improve on.

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