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Post #151 by ABasin » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:53 pm

hek wrote:What's a good site for looking up goalie stats? More specifically to look up save % splits for 5v5, PK, PP, etc.


behindthenet.ca has some stats like this, but not exactly what you've asked for.
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Post #152 by Alex Jones » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:11 pm

We fucked up the tank as well. Got a good old fashioned Leafs rally going on.
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Post #153 by VLoo » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:10 pm

Alex Jones wrote:We fucked up the tank as well. Got a good old fashioned Leafs rally going on.


Just trade Hejda and get a fucking 2nd back that we wasted on Stuart.
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Post #154 by VLoo » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:22 pm

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Post #155 by Alex Jones » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:30 pm

I haven't been as critical as others of some of the stars on this team simply because I expected regression from this squad and it was always deeply flawed on it's own blueline, but there must be some level of concern that our captain played like a third liner right up until the team was out of it.
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Post #156 by ABasin » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:03 pm

dempsey_k wrote:Lol, I guess the Wild-Avs rivalry is real now with the rubes


That was a damn fun game, no?
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Post #157 by VLoo » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:39 am

hek wrote:It would be a huge win just getting back to neutral. Sad for management.


Apparently the 2nd is in 2016? I did not know that. I don't care as much fore the time being. Will yell about it closer to next year's draft instead.
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Post #158 by ABasin » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:59 am

dempsey_k wrote:Surely. Some Wild fan lady punched an Avs fan in the lower bowl apparently.


Yes. It happened right below where my daughter was sitting. She has a video of it. Evidently, some pretty big Avs fan was giving some shit to some Wild fans, and this blonde woman (also a Wild fan, I gather) sitting directly behind the Avs fan, just stood up and popped him in the back of the head - with zero provocation that is seen on the video. Then mayhem ensues. The woman was arrested, apparently.
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Post #159 by WarriorOfGandhi » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:59 pm

how long until Caron gets a 5 year extension?
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Post #160 by stan:getz » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:56 pm

Mac is out for the year with the broken foot.

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Post #161 by stan:getz » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:57 pm

The only thing that went wrong this year is that Varlamov didn't have the kind of season he did last year.

He is the one and only reason we looked as good as we did. He gave up a lot of deflating goals early in the season, if we had gone on another 14-1 run to start, we would be well in a playoff picture now.
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Post #162 by WarriorOfGandhi » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:29 pm

shooting percentage + save percentage last season was through the roof. That's basically just luck, and this season is basically just the reality. Also, Hejda + Stuart + Guenin + Holden are all below average defensively to varying degrees.
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Post #163 by ABasin » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:17 am

dempsey_k wrote:Well guys, what went wrong this year? We had some key injuries, but that and losing Stastny can't explain it all.

The common wisdom is that Roy is suffering from a his and the organization's disdain for advanced stats.

MacK having the sophomore slump also seems significant. Lando and Duchy have slipped this year.

Terribleness of the defense also not a sufficient explanation imo. A team that has O'Reilly and EJ can't be this bad.


Just bad team hockey. They put together some reasonable pieces, but they just don't fit right together. Like having a box filled with jigsaw puzzle pieces from 4 different puzzles and trying to have a pretty picture in the end.

They need to do another mini-rebuild, because the 2009 one didn't work. They tried to fully rebuild while not stocking draft picks (they traded them instead), and this is what they ended up with. All is not lost, but they are not a single player away.
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Post #164 by Alex Jones » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:02 am

I'm not at panic level yet. Not unless the ROR situation goes bad.
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Post #165 by ABasin » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:28 am

Alex Jones wrote:I'm not at panic level yet. Not unless the ROR situation goes bad.


Well, if they can't resign O'R, the 2009 rebuild will have officially puked, and it's simply time for another one.
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Post #166 by Alex Jones » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:45 am

ABasin wrote:Well, if they can't resign O'R, the 2009 rebuild will have officially puked, and it's simply time for another one.


If ROR walks for nothing I don't know what to think. The Avs would still have Duchene, EJ, Mackinnon, Landeskog, Varlamov, and that should theoretically be enough to start a winning team. That said, they would have to make some huge moves in FA, which always terrifies me. This would all have turned out better if they would have tanked the last half of this season.
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Post #167 by ABasin » Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:34 pm

hek wrote:I don't necessarily think it's a downturn, so to speak, but I think I see the point you're making. Varly isn't as good as last year, but he was playing out of his mind at a level that's hard to sustain for goaltenders. Especially so playing behind the defense the Avs trot out every night. Last year he made every big save, this year he's only getting 3/4. Despite that I'd still go so far as to call him team MVP.


As would I. He's been really good again this season.

I have a feeling they're playing him into dust at this point though.
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Post #168 by Alex Jones » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:52 pm

Perhaps, but goalies don't really wear with age the way that skaters do. I think Varly can be elite until 35.
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Post #169 by ABasin » Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:25 pm

Mercifully, it's over. Who are you guys going to pull for now?

In the East, I'm going to hitch my wagon to Tampa Bay. If Ottawa somehow sneaks in, it'll be pretty hard not to pull for them as well.

In the West, honestly I'm pretty ambivalent. Calgary or Nashville, I suppose.
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Post #170 by WarriorOfGandhi » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:14 pm

I'm also rooting for whomever plays Detroit and Vaughncouver
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Post #171 by VLoo » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:42 pm

I've been partial to the Blackhawks for a while. Avs usually end up playing some entertaining hockey against them. I'll generally route for an underdog of some sort through the playoffs. My roommate is a Lightning fan and I don't hate them, so I'd have no problem getting behind them.
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Post #172 by ABasin » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:08 pm

dempsey_k wrote:Minnesota of course. Really enjoy this reborn team.

Can't really think of anyone else to care about.


If LA makes it, both they and Minnesota will likely be 5-8 seeds in the first round. Going to be a couple of great series in that 1st round in the WC. If I'm one of those top 4 teams, I'd much rather play Calgary or Vancouver. Or Winnipeg, if they make it. None of those top teams are going to want any part of Minnesota.
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Post #173 by VLoo » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:26 am

Just shows you how far out they were when they've gone 26-8-3 since acquiring Dubnyk and are still fighting for their playoff lives. Pretty incredible they've made up that gap to begin with.
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Post #174 by ABasin » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:31 pm

dempsey_k wrote:After losing last night to Winnipeg, Minnesota's season is in jeopardy. Win or die, each game from now on.


The Wild have a brutal last 3 games also.

Some team could finish with 99 points and still miss the playoffs this season.
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Post #175 by ABasin » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:32 pm

dempsey_k wrote:Shows more how all of the team's straddling the Wild Card spots have been playing so well. Believe me, I've been watching, they've all been good.


Yes, they have. Calgary-LA on Thursday and Calgary-Winnipeg on Saturday could be great games.
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Post #176 by ABasin » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:41 pm

hek wrote:Got free tickets for the game tonight. I'm sure it's going to be sad.

The silver lining will be the $10 Coors Lights.


They got outplayed, but still won.

I've been complaining about the beer selection in that place for years. I also openly wonder if they clean their taps.

I'm guessing Chicago will sit some important guys, and the Avs finish with 90 points. 90 points and a Top 10 draft pick. Weird. But here's to a couple more talented kids in the organization.
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Post #177 by VLoo » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:09 pm

dempsey_k wrote:So, what's the verdict on Roy? Do we blame him for laughing at the god of advanced stats and puck possession?


We'll give him another year. And more than 2 serviceable defensemen, ideally.
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Post #178 by VLoo » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:13 pm

Siemens is playing tonight.
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Post #179 by ABasin » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:03 pm

VLoo wrote:Siemens is playing tonight.


Looking forward to seeing what he can do.
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Post #180 by VLoo » Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:21 am

ABasin wrote:Looking forward to seeing what he can do.


How did he look?
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Post #181 by WarriorOfGandhi » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:42 pm

great year for Iginla, Barrie, and Pickard

good year for Landy, EJ, Varly, Tangs, ROR, Everberg

meh year for Dutch, Mack, Redmond

occasionally surprising but mostly not good year for Stuart and Berracade

everyone else sucked out loud
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Post #182 by ABasin » Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:17 pm

VLoo wrote:How did he look?


He was OK. Didn't really impress, but didn't look wholly out of place either. Tough to tell in a single game in which he played mostly against depth lines of a team sitting several of its best players. :-)
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Post #183 by Alex Jones » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:19 pm

VLoo wrote:How did he look?


He can definitely skate for a big guy at the nhl level. Not too much to learn from just one night, but I wish his passing was better.
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Post #184 by Alex Jones » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:20 pm

WarriorOfGandhi wrote:great year for Iginla, Barrie, and Pickard

good year for Landy, EJ, Varly, Tangs, ROR, Everberg

meh year for Dutch, Mack, Redmond

occasionally surprising but mostly not good year for Stuart and Berracade

everyone else sucked out loud


Honestly Stuart played like three times better than I expected.
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Post #185 by ABasin » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:42 am

Alex Jones wrote:Honestly Stuart played like three times better than I expected.


I'm evidently in the vast minority, but I thought he played pretty well.

On the Siemens front, it's hard to assess his passing, as he really didn't pass much. When he got the puck, he either gave it right to Barrie, or he skated it to the red line and dumped it in. Which is fine, I suppose. Very safe hockey. But not terribly creative. He had passes available that he didn't execute. First game. No biggie.
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Post #186 by Alex Jones » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:48 pm

Stuart played okay. As a whole he was a pretty decent bottom pairing PK specialist.
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Post #187 by WarriorOfGandhi » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:52 am

Stuart was pretty bad the first twenty to thirty games of the season. Everyone else was too, but I'd be pretty sure #17 was either on the ice for more goals against or a close second to Guenin, who I legitimately cannot believe has played 176 games in the NHL
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Post #188 by ABasin » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:33 pm

hek wrote:Cliche has played 151. That's just as shocking.


Brett Clark has played 689.
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Post #189 by ABasin » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:33 pm

Rocco Grimaldi has played 7.
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Post #190 by VLoo » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:39 pm

ABasin wrote:Rocco Grimaldi, our Lord and savior, has played 7.
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