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Post #51 by rod stewart » Tue May 14, 2013 6:50 pm

aptar has become a toronto apologist

can we ban him
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Post #52 by aptar » Tue May 14, 2013 7:26 pm

tom waits wrote:aptar has become a toronto apologist

can we ban him


I thought it was a nicely veiled shot at the motherland. :bettman:
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Post #53 by Ernie » Tue May 14, 2013 7:44 pm

mooseOAK wrote:Some teams are in that type of situation and some just play like they are.


that's nice
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Post #54 by King Ryan » Tue May 14, 2013 8:41 pm

http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=6078

I don’t want Leaf fans to feel too despondent about what they’ve witnessed, so I’ll be kind and round it down to make it sound more common than it is: once every 4757 years, your favourite team will go out of the playoffs like this. Given that it’s a 30 team league, if I’ve done my math right, you’ll see a team go out like this once every 159 years. It’s about twice as rare as a Halley’s Comet sighting.

Leafs fans might not appreciate it but it’s pretty cool that we were all alive to witness such an event. So what if your grandfather saw a bunch of Maple Leaf Stanley Cup wins? Winning a Cup happens to someone every year – who cares. See this happen to your favourite team? It’s a once in sixty lifetimes event. Revel in it.
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Post #55 by PG Canuck » Wed May 15, 2013 2:01 am

Ernie wrote:If you want to cheer for an underdog, cheer for Ottawa. They actually are the "little team that could."


This.
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Post #56 by aptar » Sat May 18, 2013 10:58 am

[youtube]u8GCH5qf9IY[/youtube]
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Post #57 by Hooker » Sat May 18, 2013 1:27 pm

What a terrific video. The whiny "nooooooooo...." is the best part; it underscores the childish sense of entitlement the media has given them. This is not supposed to happen to the Maple Leafs.

I remember nearing the end of the irregular season, the talking heads on CBC were mentioning how Vancouver getting out-shot all the time was a massive problem. Yet, a few weeks later, they're talking about how Toronto regularly gets out-shot, I think Glenn Healy just blurts out, "It doesn't matter. They've got Reimer!" CBC, TSN, and The Score (and probably Sportsnet) has made a city of five million emotionally unequipped to watch the failure of their heroes, and it's hilarious.
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Post #58 by aptar » Sat May 18, 2013 2:56 pm

It's not much different to what boy bands have done to the emotional stunting of teenage girls.
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Post #59 by Ernie » Sun May 19, 2013 2:23 am

really? I feel like being a Canucks fan has prepared me for exactly that kind of situation. I just expect them to do something like that.
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Post #60 by Ernie » Sun May 19, 2013 4:17 pm

Meh, I'd just shrug cause that's what I'd expect anyhow. Also, just getting to the 2nd round isn't a big deal, don't know why they were hooting and hollering over the Leafs goals.

I think KR's cynicism has won me over.
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Post #61 by Ernie » Sun May 19, 2013 5:42 pm

Yeah, but that's the point. Being a Canucks fan in recent years has inured me from feeling strongly about such things. Maybe in 10 years after a prolonged period of Canucks shittyness I'll feel differently, but right now the first round is no big deal and am not going to get worked up about it, one way or another.
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Post #62 by Tripwyre » Sun May 19, 2013 6:05 pm

C'mon nazzy, it was Druken's crowning achievement.
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Post #63 by Cao » Sun May 19, 2013 7:45 pm

Wow, Druken was out of professional hockey by the age of 27. That injury really fucked him up.
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Post #67 by Zorbane » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:14 am



What a bunch of losers
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Post #68 by Vector » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:17 am

This article is great.

A highlight.

[quote="Justin Bourne"]30. Calgary Flames

Why on earth would I do this to myself over the next three years? Team isn’]

*Justin Bourne is a retired minor league player.
SopelFan wrote:This is up there on his on his list of 40 injuries with the snake bite and the busted nut.
In reference to Salo hurting himself playing whiffleball.
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Post #69 by aptar » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:57 am

On the Leafs summer and Nonis extension:
http://yhoo.it/14QA12K
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Post #70 by Vector » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:24 pm

Lord Chezz wrote:He Corsi and Fenwick ed his way to greatness.


That is very delicious irony.
SopelFan wrote:This is up there on his on his list of 40 injuries with the snake bite and the busted nut.
In reference to Salo hurting himself playing whiffleball.
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Post #71 by aptar » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:58 pm

Linked from that article. GC = Leafs assistant coach Greg Cronin.

AB: You don’t think the Leafs got outpossessed last season, and that shot differentials are not a good indicator of possession?

GC: Right. I unequivocally do not believe that.

AB: To be clear, you don’t believe the Leafs were outpossessed last season?

Nope.


http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2013/07/17/an-in-depth-chat-with-associate-coach-of-the-leafs-greg-cronin/
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Post #73 by Vector » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:04 pm

Hockey players really are eloquent.
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Post #74 by Cao » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:48 pm

http://hockeybroads.com/threads/35369-A-House-Divided-The-LeafErikson-vs-Mrs.-LeafErikson-GDT.

WTF wrote:I want the Leafs to beat the Canucks so thoroughly that we'll hear Hughson weep openly on-air.


Thomas Malthus wrote:From the Nucks GDT at hfboards that Paul posted in a different thread. Look at this bottom six boys:

Jeremy Welsh - Brad Richardson - Zack Kassian
Tom Sestito - Darren Archibald - Yannick Weber

:barf:

Blue wrote:this is what happens when your amateur scouting staff is mostly terrible


Thomas Malthus wrote:But Sergei Shirokov is gonna tear it up with the Sedins!


mooseOAK wrote:The Canucks are a one line team after moving Kesler up with the Sedins.


DD wrote:Ha, so Welsh couldn't even crack the Canes after all..

The Canucks are crazy. Four of those guys should be in the AHL and one of them isn't even a forward. Pretty much their entire core is coming up to the end of their prime and for years they haven't been able to get the most out of them by giving them a solid bottom-six. That ISN'T the way to go for the Cup while you can.

Edit: Then they traded the guys who were supposed to be the next wave: Hodgson and Schneider.


embracedbias wrote:Second line:

Chris Higgins - Mike Santorelli - Alexandre Burrows

I realize Santorelli has 9 points, but c'mon. That is absolute shite. He had 4 points last year.

Burrows is a passenger even on that line, and Higgins is Chris fucking Higgins.


Thomas Malthus wrote:Booth and Burrows make a combined $8.75M.

For that money they could have brought in CMac, Boyd Gordon and Damien Brunner.
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Post #75 by Vector » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:51 pm

I was going to do something like that. Glad you did it.
SopelFan wrote:This is up there on his on his list of 40 injuries with the snake bite and the busted nut.
In reference to Salo hurting himself playing whiffleball.
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Post #76 by Killface » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:06 pm

Who is CMac?
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Post #77 by Cao » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:07 pm

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Post #78 by Killface » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:11 pm

Oh. Burrows is better than all those guys.
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Post #79 by King Ryan » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:23 pm

We're paying Daniel Sedin 6M while they're paying David Clarkson 5.5M. So you know. It's fun to play this game.
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Post #80 by Vector » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:15 am

But but but we'll be paying two of the best players in the league 7m each until they are 38! Bad cap management! Overpay! Blah blah blah.

Oh look, lots of Leafs fans seem to think Phaneuf is worth 7m...
SopelFan wrote:This is up there on his on his list of 40 injuries with the snake bite and the busted nut.
In reference to Salo hurting himself playing whiffleball.
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Post #81 by Hooker » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:57 am

I shudder to think what the posters on HF Leafs are like if the posters on Broads Leafs are the way they are.
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Post #82 by rod stewart » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:41 am

they're currently accusing the canucks of diving headfirst into the boards to draw penalties
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Post #83 by Hooker » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:43 am

HF or Broads? I had a look over at HF out of morbid curiosity and they seem more level-headed and adult than Broads.
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Post #84 by Hooker » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:44 am

Maybe Leafs fans went to HF to get away from the Broads posters.
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Post #85 by rod stewart » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:12 am

HF:
ULF_55, a global moderator with over 52,000 posts wrote:Curious, how many Canucks left the game with an injury? How many had to go to the quiet room from all the boarding penalties?

Cor wrote:Not sure what was more disgraceful, this teams effort, or how easy the canucks go down on any form of contact

bunjay wrote:Is staring at the boards part of the Canucks strategy?

Stephen wrote:The Canucks have perfected the boarding bait. They seem to play with their backs to the wall so you can't engage without putting their face into the glass. Never noticed this tactic so blatantly with another club.

HeroNtF wrote:I wouldnt so much blame the refs, they called board because well, our player made contact to the numbers.

I do think the canucks may be using this to their advantage to get calls ? If so thats a dangerous game to be playing. They were putting themselves into vulnerable positions and lucky they didnt come out with an injury.

ULF_55 wrote:Has nothing to do with being hurt has to do with purposely turning to cause the penalty. It was blatant on the Edler dive. He stopped skating and put his back to Fraser and then fell into the boards.

Kassian doing the Cooke was good too. Kassian seems to like to injure players. Accidentally, swinging his stick at Gagner's head. Nice player there.

glg51 wrote: Seriously... Every board play they turn their back

Stephen wrote: Why do Canuck players post a meter away from the boards and turn their back all the time then so frequently? It's like a signature move for half your team.

TheLeastOfTheBunch wrote:Turn and dive. Turn and dive. Turn. and. dive.


Daisy Joy wrote: and I have to wonder how are you calling boarding, if you turn and then go into the boards?

ULF_55 wrote: When you and another player are skating into the puck but you stop short, turn your back to a player and then throw yourself into the boards? Either you are stupid, or you are purposely doing that to draw a penalty. You go right to the boards to protect yourself you don't draw up short. That is basic hockey taught at a low level.
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Post #86 by yumphod » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:19 am

remember guys not all leafs fans are 15 year old crybabies, theres just so many of them
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Post #87 by aptar » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:35 am

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Post #88 by Hooker » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:10 am

aptar the caterpillar has emerged from his cocoon and become edgar_dong the butterfly!
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Post #89 by rod stewart » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:46 am

Delicious Dangles wrote:All 3 dives on the boardings were ridiculous displays by the Canucks. JVR even tried to help minimize the impact. Ironically, the one Ranger got was right after he got his face smashed in by a Canuck. 4 minute high sticking call on McClaren because Kassian made his already messed up tooth bleed. The stick hit the visor, so unless the visor is bleeding... And talk about ridiculous embellishment even when it was a penalty. The other high stick, he reacted WAY after it hit. Canucks gifted a 2 minute 5 on 3 for a bench minor, despite Canuck players talking trash all night, starting scrums, and Burrows taunting Kessel with fake-slashes. Then there were the real slashes (for which it is very common knowledge that a properly placed one will take you down... Canucks complaining about divers LMAO). The hook by the Canuck play on JVR ALL the way down the ice, after they took a couple shots in his face and held him up on the PK. The kick by Kassian to very conveniently take out one of the guys in the league that the Canucks hate the most. The refs not calling the play down when Bolland is dead on the ice, leading to a goal. Unnecessary misconducts taking out our players from the game when we were already shorthanded. The million missed calls on the Canucks...

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Post #90 by aptar » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:52 am

That post made my tooth bleed.
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Post #91 by King Ryan » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:00 pm

It's funny how losing one playoff series after missing the post-season for a decade, and then having a decent dozen games to start a season has turned leafs fans into basically Avs fans circa 2002. Well, I guess it's more cute than funny.

Shots were 9-0 before the Leafs first penalty. Maybe they should try employing some hockey players.
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Post #92 by Cao » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:07 pm

I'm just surprised that their strategy of "get outshot every game" didn't net them a win.
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Post #93 by Zorbane » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:05 pm

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Post #95 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:36 pm

Good to see you, James Cameron's apatar.

Be well.
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Post #96 by Ernie » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:48 am

I almost feel a little tiny bit sorry for Phaneuf, with all the flack he's taking.

It was pretty obvious that he's not the guy you want going up against tough competition. He's a brute force player - not the kind of guy who is going to be able to master the finer details of the game.

Put him on a second pairing with a steady partner, let him play his game, and he'll be effective. He's always going to be a high event player, but probably one whose talents outweigh his liabilities.

Of course, with how arrogant he always was, it probably doesn't hurt for him to be brought down to size a bit. He's the kind of guy who needs to learn how to play within his game. But it'll be really funny if the Leafs move him this summer and he starts putting up big offensive numbers again somewhere else.
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Post #97 by Cao » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:09 am

Yeah, in Calgary it was mostly Regehr and whoever (Sarich?) matched up against the Sedins. Whenever Phaneuf was out there against them, he got burned. Hard.
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Post #98 by Hooker » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:19 pm

I watched the Flyers vs Leafs game on Friday (it was great!), and Phaneuf was a thing of beauty. Every shift it seemed like he would misplay the puck and then stand there staring at it. You could almost see his mind working particularly slowly. It's the opposite of Hamhuis noticing a play opening up for the opposition and scrambling to shut it down. Hamhuis isn't always successful, but he reacts to it immediately. Phanuef is out of the play once something goes wrong.

EDIT: Also, one of the three players (an outfielder) that left to free agency in just before the events of Moneyball was described by Beane by way of Michael Lewis as reacting to a hit ball immediately while player that was going to replace him would take a moment to figure out where the ball was going before he would move. I was going to make the analogy to Phaneuf, but I spent forever trying to figure out what the baseball player's name was, gave up, and made the point without the analogy. The player's name was Johnny Damon.

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