Tripwyre's Hodgson-Free Canuck Prospect Extravaganza

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Post #301 by aptar » Wed May 13, 2015 12:10 am

Apparently Ron Delorme sold him on that pick.
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Post #302 by King Ryan » Wed May 13, 2015 2:26 am

Vector wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Well, time to just look at this team as a live performance of black humour.


Yep.

I couldn't even stop laughing when I saw this. It is seriously like Boston sent this guy here to troll us.

When you can't tell the difference between parody and reality...
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Post #303 by King Ryan » Wed May 13, 2015 2:39 am

Hooker wrote:He could be signing a 19 year old facepuncher so that you don't have to lose a veteran spot on a facepuncher in the AHL.

I'll work on a new argument for when he makes it onto the main roster out of training camp. Something about the cap going down, methinks.


Like, remember when the Canucks sent Sestito home for the season because even the Comets didn't want him?

Do these guys think Stewart has the potential to be a better player than Sestito? A guy who scored 40 goals in juniors when he was this kid's age?

Good grief.
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Post #304 by Cao » Wed May 13, 2015 4:41 am

Just realized we signed the Luca Sbisa of the WHL
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Post #305 by Cao » Wed May 13, 2015 4:50 am

I have better news, everybody.

http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2015/05/12/canucks-sign-defensive-prospect-mackenzie-stewart/
Mackenze Stewart’s story is going to get even more interesting.

The Vancouver Canucks signed Stewart to an entry-level contract Tuesday and [SIZE="7"]general manager Jim Benning said the team hopes to turn the 6-foot-4, 216-pound defenceman into a winger.[/size]

“We drafted him as a defenceman,” Benning said. “This year, he played some wing and some defence. I think what we are going to try and do is develop him as a winger. He is a real good skater for his size, he gets in on the forecheck and plays physical. He’ll stick up for his teammates, he’s a hard-nosed kid who will do what needs to be done.”


Stewart just completed his second full season with the Prince Albert Raiders of the Western Hockey League. He had five goals, 11 points and 114 penalty minutes in 66 games this past season.

The Canucks selected Stewart 186th overall in the seventh round of the 2014 draft.

Stewart, a Calgary native who turns 20 in August, was born deaf and needed several surgeries as a child to restore his hearing. As a result, he did not start playing hockey until he was 12 years old.

“He is the type of kid that if there’s any way to figure out how to be a NHL player, he is going to do it,” Benning said. “He’s serious about wanting to be a player. He is going to leave no stone unturned to try and make it as a player. I have seen through the years kids that have this sort of intensity and they kind of figure out a way.”

Benning said Stewart will start next season with Utica.

“We signed him to a contract, he’ll start off in Utica and we’ll see how that goes and go from there. He’s a fantastic kid and a total team player.”


In related news,

While the Canucks signed Stewart, they have not yet inked defensive prospect Jordan Subban to a contract. The Canucks must sign Subban to a deal by the end of the month to prevent him from re-entering the draft.

Benning said he remains confident a deal will get done.

“We are in negotiations trying to get something figured out for Jordan,” Benning said. “It’s like give and take, we’re trying to get that figured out. I’m confident that we’ll get it done.”

Subban, 20, just completed his fourth season with the Belleville Bulls of the Ontario Hockey League. He had 25 goals and 52 points in 63 regular-season games. The Canucks selected him in the fourth round (115th overall) in the 2013 draft.
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Post #306 by aptar » Wed May 13, 2015 1:24 pm

King Ryan wrote:Yep.

I couldn't even stop laughing when I saw this. It is seriously like Boston sent this guy here to troll us.

When you can't tell the difference between parody and reality...


Benning's Law: when a GM's transactions become indistinguishable from parody.
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Post #307 by aptar » Wed May 13, 2015 7:05 pm

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Post #308 by Hooker » Wed May 13, 2015 9:34 pm

Guys, we're in the post-finals-loss period of the Canucks. To put it in perspective, this is off-season after two Messier seasons or the trading-Neely off-season.
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Post #309 by King Ryan » Wed May 13, 2015 9:42 pm

19nazzy wrote:[SIZE="7"][color="red"]HOW DOES HE STILL HAVE A JOB?!?[/color][/size]


You and I wonder why Delorme still has a job. Benning wonders why Delorme doesn't have more power.
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Post #310 by Tripwyre » Wed May 13, 2015 11:15 pm

I remember Botch tweeting after the last few rounds of last year's draft that Benning was disgusted with the picks and was waiting for certain guys contracts to run out as opposed to firing them. Somehow I now get the feeling all of those contracts are getting renewed...
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Post #311 by King Ryan » Thu May 14, 2015 2:56 am

The boredz thread on this topic is pure gold. DTS's carriage is officially a pumpkin.
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Post #312 by Killface » Thu May 14, 2015 4:02 pm

We signed Subban.
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Post #313 by Tripwyre » Thu May 14, 2015 4:23 pm

FINALLY
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Post #314 by Killface » Thu May 14, 2015 6:26 pm

Would be nice if one of Subban, Hutton and Cassels really stood out next season with the Comets.

Outside of Lack I can't recall an AHL rookie of ours who exceeded all expectations.
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Post #315 by aptar » Thu May 14, 2015 7:15 pm

I hope PK is right.
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Post #316 by Vector » Thu May 14, 2015 8:28 pm

Killface wrote:Would be nice if one of Subban, Hutton and Cassels really stood out next season with the Comets.

Outside of Lack I can't recall an AHL rookie of ours who exceeded all expectations.


Burrows, Bieksa, Corrado, Edler, Hansen, and Schneider all jump out at me.
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Post #317 by Tripwyre » Thu May 14, 2015 9:09 pm

Typically our depth has been so shit that any worthwhile prospects went straight onto the main roster. Remember when Nonis left a gaping hole in the top-six for rookie pro Mason Raymond? lol
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Post #318 by Hooker » Thu May 14, 2015 9:16 pm

Shit, he had Taylor Pyatt on the first line for two seasons.
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Post #319 by Cao » Fri May 15, 2015 1:12 am

Vector wrote:Burrows, Bieksa, Corrado, Edler, Hansen, and Schneider all jump out at me.


Hodgson...............
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Post #320 by Vector » Fri May 15, 2015 2:16 am

Cao wrote:Hodgson...............


Hahahaha, forgot he existed.
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Post #321 by Ironchef Chris Wok » Sat May 16, 2015 1:07 am

Andrew Cassels was probably always underrated anyway, I bet you he had an awesome Corsi but was labelled "soft"
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Post #322 by Killface » Sat May 23, 2015 4:43 pm

Cassels and the Generals vs Rimouski on Sportsnet Pacific right now.
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Post #323 by Vector » Sun May 31, 2015 10:16 pm

Cole Cassels won the Memorial Cup.
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Post #324 by Cao » Sun May 31, 2015 11:11 pm

Cole Cassels seems like a player who would be propped up significantly by old school TV analysts. High character, leaves it all on the ice, never gives up, captain material, a champion at all levels, etc etc.
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Post #325 by Tripwyre » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:15 am

I really liked Andrew Cassels and it turns out his son is pretty cool too.
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Post #326 by Cao » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:35 am

Buffalo is now Hodgson-free as well!
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Post #327 by Cao » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:36 am

Anyway, Zhukenov highlight package. Looks like a shifty player that skates very well.

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Post #328 by Killface » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:30 am

He's coming over to play for Chicoutimi next season. It will be interesting to see how he does. His MHL totals for last season are pretty underwhelming for a skill player, but his U-17 and U-18 championship numbers are good.

I like what I have seen from Jasek the most out of our late round picks.
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Post #329 by rod stewart » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:01 pm

look at this fucking monstrosity the canucks invited to prospect camp

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Post #330 by Hooker » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:28 pm

Oh, please. PLEASE. I need something to enjoy on this team.
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Post #331 by Cao » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:57 pm

He has godawful stats but the Canucks only care about size so I guess they think he's probably good
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Post #332 by aptar » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:35 pm

:wink: :wink:
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Post #333 by King Ryan » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:45 pm

Is that Gregor clegane?
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Post #334 by Hooker » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:39 pm

Cao wrote:He has godawful stats but the Canucks only care about size so I guess they think he's probably good

Why would you even look up stats? He's using a wrong-handed goalie stick.

PLEASE, BENNING!
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Post #335 by Cao » Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:02 pm

what a stupid speech

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Post #336 by aptar » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:46 pm

That probably could have been edited down to a vine without losing anything.
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Post #337 by Cao » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:52 pm

1) Jake Virtanen picked Mackenze Stewart, Anton Cederholm, and Brock Boeser to pull the bus at first.
2) Mackenze Stewart looks like a villain from Die Hard. Or any WW2 movie.
3) #motivational

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Post #338 by King Ryan » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:48 am

Why do they talk to these guys like they are five year olds?
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Post #339 by aptar » Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:06 am

It was nice of Benning to let them use his family's short bus.
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Post #340 by Cao » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:22 pm

Here is a very good read on how the Kings scouting director sees the draft.

http://mayorsmanor.com/2015/07/at-the-n ... -scouting/


“I read all the scouting reports ahead of time just like everybody else,” Yannetti began. “I look at Red Line Report, Central Scouting, ISS, Bob McKenzie and Craig Button. Whether or not I agree with them, whether or not I think they have merit, any time you read something, it can help you. It’s sort of like conversations with Dean [Lombardi] sometimes. Even when we don’t see eye to eye on something, I still come away and adapt my way of thinking. I have weighed a different way of thinking.”


wow who would've thought that having different opinions was a good thing?

“Like, if you went Russian, European, Russian, and European. With the uncertainty of a Russian contract or a transfer agreement – or the fact you don’t have complete control – you might not go four Europeans in a row,” he explained. “Just like, you probably wouldn’t go four or five college guys in a row because you would run into the same situation of age distribution. I’m not saying it would, but it would be something that would at least come into mind where I would be thinking three or four years down the line – or thinking with the team’s development group in mind. The second thing that would play into it would be the round. In the third round and fourth round – and especially the fifth, sixth and seventh rounds – I would probably think ‘project.’ When you’re talking fourth to seventh round, you’re thinking about guys that need to be developed.”
A relevant point here would be Chaz Reddekopp, a 6-foot-4 defenseman the Kings selected in the seventh round this year.
“Traditionally, you’re thinking, ‘For Reddekopp to go in the seventh round, there has to be a reason. He can move the puck, he’s big, he’s strong, he’s tough, and he plays hard. He is a prototypical guy for that spot, so what’s the reason? How can a guy like that go in the seventh?’ Well, his skating needs to improve. It’s simple. There is a deficiency. Right now, you look at Reddekopp, and without improving his skating, he won’t be able to play in the NHL,” explained Yannetti. “So there’s the development pick. And developmentally, it is easier to have a guy picked in the fourth to the seventh round in North America where you can have your hands on him all the time. So I wouldn’t want to go Euro, Euro, Euro later in the draft because you now have three guys that are development picks that you probably don’t have development access to. I wouldn’t make a blanket statement saying ‘I wouldn’t do it.’ That would get into bias and one-dimensional thinking, but it would seriously weigh on my mind. That might skew my thinking into taking geographical area over player.”


makes a hell of a lot of sense. same thing goes for size, strength, etc. find guys with one deficiency that made them fall and develop them. don't draft a player because he's gone through adversity in his life.

also here's part 2 where yanetti talks about the second rounder they took. reminds me an awful lot of gustav forsling in that he's playing in the top tier men's league at a young age. oops we traded our guy away lol http://mayorsmanor.com/2015/07/dev-camp ... d-rounder/
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Post #341 by Vector » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:17 pm

I'm jealous and furious.
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Post #342 by King Ryan » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:39 am

That's too complicated for our scouts. You have to simplify the language.
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Post #343 by Cao » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:05 pm

King Ryan wrote:That's too complicated for our scouts. You have to simplify the language.


I'm jelly and mad
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Post #344 by Killface » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:17 pm

Forsling had 2 assists in Linkoping's season opener today. Also named Sweden's U20 team captain.

Let's hope Clendening has a breakout season!
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Post #345 by Cao » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:01 pm

here's one of forsling's assists


i'm crying
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Post #346 by aptar » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:32 pm

At least we're stacked on defensive prospects.
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Post #347 by Jyrki21 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:51 pm

Forsling is going to be an NHL regular purely because it's Chicago that picked him up.

But who needs defensemen with puck-moving vision, anyway? How will that help in scrums after the whistle?

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