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Post #151 by Tripwyre » Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:49 am

Q: "Jim, you said back in January that you wouldn't be trading your first rounder. What changed your mind?"
A: "That was our intent at the time, but obviously this is a fluid business and things change. We got an offer that really knocked our socks off and we pulled the trigger."

Come on fellas this really is a non-issue.
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Post #152 by aptar » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:33 pm

Cao wrote:Nonis: Hey Jim, just wanted to see if you were interested in getting Phil Kessel. Looking to rebuild and I want a 1st, a 2nd, and Hunter Shinkaruk.

Benning: Sorry Dave, I told everyone in January that I wouldn't be trading my 1st round pick, so I can't do it.


No, it's not that. Of course he's going to do it. But then he's a liar. It's just stupid wording. Someone please get this guy some media training, he's an the face of a professional hockey team.
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Post #153 by aptar » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:34 pm

Tripwyre wrote:Q: "Jim, you said back in January that you wouldn't be trading your first rounder. What changed your mind?"
A: "That was our intent at the time, but obviously this is a fluid business and things change. We got an offer that really knocked our socks off and we pulled the trigger."

Come on fellas this really is a non-issue.


"No, we aren't intending to trade our first pick". Fin.

Yes it's a non-issue. Yes it's 101 stuff.
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Post #154 by Vector » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:52 pm

The only reason it's important is because the Vancouver media and fans are some of the biggest idiots in the world. Being a fan of this team would be so much easier if the GM never said anything and the media accepted that.

Edit: Actually, I thought that's what Linden's job was. He was the media savvy guy that would insulate Benning from saying dumb things around the media.
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Post #155 by Killface » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:33 pm

It's funny because Benning has come out and said he is willing to make any trades to make us a better team, and now he is saying that's as long as the trade doesn't involve our first round pick.

So he's more loyal to his pick than any players actually on our roster.
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Post #156 by aptar » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:33 pm

I dunno. When Gillis said the Sedins might not be first liners early on in one of his earliest interviews, that shit can do real damage to contract negotiations / retention / player relations.
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Post #157 by Cao » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:15 pm

aptar wrote:I dunno. When Gillis said the Sedins might not be first liners early on in one of his earliest interviews, that shit can do real damage to contract negotiations / retention / player relations.


I gave Gillis a bit of a pass on that because he actually had zero experience in a front office. Benning has been a front office guy for a while now...
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Post #158 by Hooker » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:40 am

aptar wrote:"No, we aren't intending to trade our first pick". Fin.

Yes it's a non-issue. Yes it's 101 stuff.

Oh, wait. You're serious about this?

Gillis talked long and hard about how he only wants people of strong character on the Canucks. He might have said it before he drafted Hodgson or after. He might have said it before and after. He might have even been saying it while in the process of drafting Hodgson. Somewhere in the mix of talking about how much he values character, he drafted Hodgson. GMs just talk shit non-stop.
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Post #159 by aptar » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:08 am

I'm not really serious, other than its a pet peeve. But there's a pretty obvious difference between absolute and interpretive statements.
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Post #160 by Vector » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:31 pm

Old news!
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Post #161 by Vector » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:34 am

19nazzy wrote:Wasn't posted in the thread :(


You're right. I know Cao linked to it but I'm too lazy to search the threads.
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Post #162 by Cao » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:20 am

Eriksson is news to me and oh god a Kassian for Eriksson trade would be so awful for the canucks, as much as I like Eriksson. He's simply not a significant upgrade over higgins or burrows. Really no reason to acquire unless either of those are going the other way, and id probably rather keep burrows.
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Post #163 by Killface » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:18 pm

19nazzy wrote:Farhan Lalji ‏@FarhanLaljiTSN 5s5 seconds ago
Radim Vrbata selected to all-star game. #canucks


Weird.
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Post #164 by Tripwyre » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:54 pm

I'm sure Henrik or whoever said they didn't want to go.

Also I'm glad they don't have to wear that awful jersey.
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Post #165 by King Ryan » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:49 pm

I would love you it if we could turf the as game and finish the season before June.
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Post #166 by yumphod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:49 pm

ya
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Post #167 by Tripwyre » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:45 pm

Pierre LeBrun reporting that Jacob Markstrom is making quite the impression on Canucks brass...

Markstrom, who turns 25 on Saturday, has a 1.92 goals-against average and a .934 save percentage in 18 games this season. There are some in the Canucks organization who believe he could be the next Ben Bishop in terms of being a late bloomer.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/34322/rumblings-markstrom-impressing-canucks

Bye-bye Lack...? :(
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Post #168 by Killface » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:04 pm

Because Markstrom has never impressed in the AHL before now :/
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Post #169 by aptar » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:06 pm

Makes me sad to think we could have just went with youth and ran with Lack and Markstrom and used the extra $5m on something the team needed, like a good defenseman. Pretty low risk, since Bob Essensa type veterans are a dime a dozen.
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Post #170 by Cao » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:36 pm

aptar wrote:Makes me sad to think we could have just went with youth and ran with Lack and Markstrom and used the extra $5m on something the team needed, like a good defenseman. Pretty low risk, since Bob Essensa type veterans are a dime a dozen.


You know, Jason Garrison in Tampa Bay has a pretty good contract.
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Post #171 by Killface » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:05 pm

CHANGE
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Post #172 by Tripwyre » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:05 pm

Gallagher has intimated over the past month or so that Aquaman is planning to sell the team soon and wanted to squeeze maximum profits out of one last playoff push before he does.
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Post #173 by aptar » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:38 pm

Cao wrote:You know, Jason Garrison in Tampa Bay has a pretty good contract.


Damn. Wonder if he'd be available at the deadline. Is that team doing any good?
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Post #174 by aptar » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:41 pm

Killface wrote:CHANGE


In all seriousness, running with the young goalies would have been a lot better marketing for fan buy in as it signifies real change and a youth movement, vs an old stopgap and a promise of prolonged middling. But the reports of trying to scrape some playoff revenue wouldn't be a surprise at all.
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Post #175 by Cao » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:53 am

aptar wrote:Damn. Wonder if he'd be available at the deadline. Is that team doing any good?


Tampa Bay is doing real well, plus teams don't just give up top 4 defensemen for 2nd round picks.
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Post #176 by aptar » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:00 am

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Post #177 by Killface » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:56 pm

Edler - Sbisa is a pairing at practice today. They really don't want to give up on Sbisa. At least AV realized Ballard sucked even if Gillis wouldn't off load him.

Also Kenins was recalled. I'm interested to see if he can compete in the NHL. It sounds like he has the skill set to be an effective grinder.
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Post #178 by aptar » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:28 pm

You have to wonder if Benning honestly viewed Sbisa as an asset in the Kesler deal.
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Post #179 by aptar » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:23 am

Yikes. I mean, Benning had no chance to ever win a Kesler deal, but the least he could have done in moving a player of that calibre is not brought back a liability.
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Post #180 by aptar » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:28 pm

Fuck you haters. Juice is the best.

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Post #181 by Cao » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:52 pm

he really is

i honestly don't even really hate that he sucks right now, i'm ok with it.
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Post #182 by Killface » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:12 pm

Hearing that the Canucks have shown interest in Leafs C Mike Santorelli, who of course played in Van last yr. Lotsa teams covet him though


https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/562748015518433281

Ahahahahahahahaha
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Post #183 by Cao » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:44 pm

Good to know JB and company have admitted how stupid they were.

I would be in huge favour of getting him back at the right price. Our bottom 9 forwards are just garbage these days.
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Post #184 by Killface » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:57 pm

I would have thought that before becoming the GM of an NHL team some due diligence would be necessary. I guess not.
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Post #185 by Tripwyre » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:00 pm

Love the people who are playing cautious like "We can't say for sure that the Canucks let him go, it's possible he didn't want to stay here..."

No, we can say for sure. Benning and Linden were asked point blank about not re-signing him and said they didn't know enough about the guy to feel comfortable making a commitment to him. What an utter embarrassment.
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Post #186 by aptar » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:12 pm

It would be beyond absurd if they invest an asset to reacquire a UFA they should have just kept.

I don't care if Benning is from the east coast and didn't see the games or even didn't have a fucking clue about what was happening in the west. He inherited an intelligent management team. If you don't trust them, then take the time to watch the video and formulate your own opinion. You're supposed to be a scout. Dude clearly didn't know shit about the team inherited and couldn't be bothered to catch up before making moves.

The guy would give away Apple stock because he can't figure out how to use an iPhone.
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Post #187 by Killface » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:30 pm

How great would it be if Toronto signed Santorelli this summer after trading him to us at the trade deadline. I would probably become a leafs fan on the spot.
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Post #188 by Tripwyre » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:08 pm

I would wait for them to fire Nonis before fully committing to being a fan.
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Post #189 by Cao » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:26 pm

aptar wrote:It would be beyond absurd if they invest an asset to reacquire a UFA they should have just kept.

I don't care if Benning is from the east coast and didn't see the games or even didn't have a fucking clue about what was happening in the west. He inherited an intelligent management team. If you don't trust them, then take the time to watch the video and formulate your own opinion. You're supposed to be a scout. Dude clearly didn't know shit about the team inherited and couldn't be bothered to catch up before making moves.

The guy would give away Apple stock because he can't figure out how to use an iPhone.


Yeah, benning was (and still is) an idiot. Santorelli would help our team quite a bit, so I wouldn't mind if they got him back at a discount. Problem of course is that everybody realizes how good he is, so the cost will be high.

Imagine if these morons trade Kassian for him and Franson. Good god.
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Post #190 by aptar » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:33 pm

He's a UFA, what's the point?
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Post #191 by Cao » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:46 pm

i want the canucks to make the playoffs?
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Post #192 by aptar » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:58 pm

Then you're worse than Aqua.
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Post #193 by Cao » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:21 pm

hey i don't want the canucks to make the playoffs so that i make money

i want them there because i care
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Post #194 by aptar » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:47 pm

If you really cared about them you wouldn't want them maintain mediocrity.
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Post #195 by Cao » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:14 pm

aptar wrote:If you really cared about them you wouldn't want them maintain mediocrity.


I can maybe see an argument for wanting them to do poorly so that Benning and Desjardins are canned, but I feel that those two have some pretty solid job security.
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Post #196 by aptar » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:18 pm

19nazzy wrote:I'd take mediocre over middling. Gets them some good draft picks* that way.


*Not taking their drafting into account


Oops, middling is actually what I meant. They need some clear direction on what they are doing it and being satisfied with 6-10 every year isn't going to get them anywhere but there.
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Post #197 by aptar » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:07 pm

People talking about Canucks acquiring Kane as if Benning would acquire someone who stayed out past dark.
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Post #198 by Cao » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:41 pm

aptar wrote:People talking about Canucks acquiring Kane as if Benning would acquire someone dark.
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Post #199 by aptar » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:41 am

Great. Chris Neil might be available. There goes our second.

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