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Post #1601 by mayoradamwest » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:19 pm

jester wrote:
mayoradamwest wrote:no? I don't see a way out of this damage other than pulling a gerald ford...

I dunno, maybe I'm wrong but I don't see the american political system actually putting the entire complicit body of republicanism complicit. it would require a purge that would have a hard time appearing legitimate.


A few of things.

Ford was an establishment GOPer pardoning a long time GOP politician. Nixon had a lot of social connection currency working in his favor. And we shouldn't over look that it was and remains a somewhat controversial decision. A similar situation would require Trump resigning and Pence pardoning him (a not impossible scenario).

If a Dem takes the WH, I suspect they will come into office with immense pressure not to pardon Trump. Particularly if the evidence points to collusion with foreign adversaries. Moreover, if this is the end game, Trump will almost certainly have taken steps to further alienate folks (e.g., pardoning Don Jr). You can argue that Nixon was punished, but that wouldn't be the case for Trump.

And, not for nothing, there's a decent chance under this scenario that Trump faces criminal liability in NY and I'm not sure he can bank on Cuomo to intervene.



what happens if whatever punishment happens doesn't appear legitimate to 40% of the country? It's all damaging, but what's the least damaging outcome.. you might be right that partisanship pushes it in a certain direction though.

while Trump isn't an establishment GOPer, the entire GOP establishment have remora'd themselves to trump's anal cavity.... there's a lot of people to burn down there. Not saying it wouldn't be fun to see of course.
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Post #1602 by jester » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:26 pm

mayoradamwest wrote:what happens if whatever punishment happens doesn't appear legitimate to 40% of the country? It's all damaging, but what's the least damaging outcome.. you might be right that partisanship pushes it in a certain direction though.

while Trump isn't an establishment GOPer, the entire GOP establishment have remora'd themselves to trump's anal cavity.... there's a lot of people to burn down there. Not saying it wouldn't be fun to see of course.


Much like Game of Thrones ... if you think any of this ends well, you haven't been paying attention. Trump's presidency represents a substantive threat to democratic norms and culture in myriad ways, and there will be fallout for quite some time both domestically and internationally. At the end of the day, however, rule of law has to mean something, or it doesn't mean anything at all ... and some future Dem president is going to be a lot less invested in Trump going unpunished after what is almost certainly going to be a campaign that gets rhetorically gross.

Lets be real. The GOP establishment's embrace of Trump is pretty damn thin. The strength of it is entirely derived from electoral success ... and they just got smashed in 2018 ... and, under this scenario, 2020 will not go well for them. He will have few allies left in the GOP establishment. The cult of personality membership ... different story.

If this goes down, it's going to be an utter circus. The best case scenario if he's guilty of actual crimes, is impeachment and removal from office as that will be the traumatic release valve ... as opposed to an ex-POTUS standing trial.
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Post #1603 by Craig » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:30 pm

Maybe he'll just die? Coronary seems like the best end to this mess for everyone.
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Post #1604 by senate » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:27 pm

A Russian exile works too.
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Post #1606 by Craig » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:02 pm

Context?
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i was busydrinkin at a tapas bar whatdid onnie have to say
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Post #1609 by mooseOAK » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:29 pm

Holocaust survivors, that’s the ticket.
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so overweight lady is doin the jimmy corbin rebuttal
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why were all these bint wearing white blazers? they all virgins?
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Post #1614 by Slick Nick » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:38 am

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Now I want make up sex.. thanks sénaté
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Post #1615 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:54 am

Everyone who clapped for a single word uttered by Trump is a fucking scumbag.
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Post #1616 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:56 am

What a revolting political system. These people rule the word and they are clapping for a ghoul.

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Post #1617 by mayoradamwest » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:10 pm

jester wrote:
mayoradamwest wrote:what happens if whatever punishment happens doesn't appear legitimate to 40% of the country? It's all damaging, but what's the least damaging outcome.. you might be right that partisanship pushes it in a certain direction though.

while Trump isn't an establishment GOPer, the entire GOP establishment have remora'd themselves to trump's anal cavity.... there's a lot of people to burn down there. Not saying it wouldn't be fun to see of course.


Much like Game of Thrones ... if you think any of this ends well, you haven't been paying attention. Trump's presidency represents a substantive threat to democratic norms and culture in myriad ways, and there will be fallout for quite some time both domestically and internationally. At the end of the day, however, rule of law has to mean something, or it doesn't mean anything at all ... and some future Dem president is going to be a lot less invested in Trump going unpunished after what is almost certainly going to be a campaign that gets rhetorically gross.

Lets be real. The GOP establishment's embrace of Trump is pretty damn thin. The strength of it is entirely derived from electoral success ... and they just got smashed in 2018 ... and, under this scenario, 2020 will not go well for them. He will have few allies left in the GOP establishment. The cult of personality membership ... different story.

If this goes down, it's going to be an utter circus. The best case scenario if he's guilty of actual crimes, is impeachment and removal from office as that will be the traumatic release valve ... as opposed to an ex-POTUS standing trial.



wait, you're saying this isn't going to end well? :hellyeah:
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Post #1618 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:29 pm

Home Box Office’s seminal historical serial Game of Thrones is actually slated to end with [redacted] as king, and [redacted] as the hand of the [redacted]. :smuglanne:
Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Post #1619 by shredz » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:19 pm

lmao

Local commanders told CNN during its investigation that the Saudis and the United Arab Emirates are using U.S. weapons as currency to buy off different factions and militias in the Yemeni conflict - including Iranian-backed fighters.

CNN concluded that the transactions are “exposing some of America's sensitive military technology to Tehran and potentially endangering the lives of U.S. troops in other conflict zones.”

U.S. Investigating Saudi Arabia Giving U.S. Weapons to Al-Qaida and Iran in Yemen, Report Says
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Post #1620 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:25 pm

Dems resisting again.

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Post #1621 by mayoradamwest » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:30 pm

I think we're overthinking this.
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Post #1622 by PredsFan77 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:42 pm

lol Bezos


Bezos says Enquirer threatened to publish revealing pics

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LOS ANGELES (AP) — Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos said Thursday he was the target of “extortion and blackmail” by the publisher of the National Enquirer, which he said threatened to publish revealing personal photos of him unless he stopped investigating how other private photos and messages were obtained by the tabloid.










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Post #1623 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:17 pm

So where were you when Nancy Pelosi clapped at Trump in defiance?
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Post #1625 by PredsFan77 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:19 pm

i mean, east germany is doing swimmingly..........


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Post #1626 by Dog » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:17 pm

Send it to Poland where it belongs.

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Post #1630 by chicpea » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:10 pm

I support her point in spirit, but she comes off as intellectually feeble with such arguments - maybe it's the editing? I only watched the first minute.
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Post #1631 by chicpea » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:17 pm

U.S. steel tariff 'boondoggle' offers more exclusions to China than Canada

40 per cent of Chinese steel imports - and just 2 per cent of Canadian imports - excluded from U.S. tariff

If the Trump administration's tariff policy is meant to target unfair Chinese trade, it sure has a funny way of going about it.

So far, the U.S. Department of Commerce has excluded about 40 per cent of imports of Chinese steel from facing its 25 per cent tariff. But to date, only two per cent of the total volume of Canadian steel imports to the U.S. has been cleared to dodge the tariff.

The head-scratching discrepancy gets even stranger with the United States' 10 per cent tariff on aluminum imports.

About 86 per cent of Chinese aluminum imports now enter the U.S. tariff-free, while less than one per cent of Canadian aluminum shipments do.

"If the whole point was to do this for China in the first place, then why are the approval rates for China so much higher than other countries?" said Christine McDaniel, a former White House economic adviser, now a senior research fellow with the Mercatus Center at George Mason University.

"It just doesn't make sense."


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/steel- ... -1.4748745

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Post #1632 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:54 pm

chicpea wrote:I support her point in spirit, but she comes off as intellectually feeble with such arguments


Why?
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Post #1633 by Craig » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm

For me it's because she can barely stammer out a sentence.
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Post #1634 by mooseOAK » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:03 pm

I thought that it was an accurate description of the US campaign finance laws, being that they barely exist.
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Post #1635 by mooseOAK » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:06 pm

chicpea wrote:U.S. steel tariff 'boondoggle' offers more exclusions to China than Canada

40 per cent of Chinese steel imports - and just 2 per cent of Canadian imports - excluded from U.S. tariff

If the Trump administration's tariff policy is meant to target unfair Chinese trade, it sure has a funny way of going about it.

So far, the U.S. Department of Commerce has excluded about 40 per cent of imports of Chinese steel from facing its 25 per cent tariff. But to date, only two per cent of the total volume of Canadian steel imports to the U.S. has been cleared to dodge the tariff.

The head-scratching discrepancy gets even stranger with the United States' 10 per cent tariff on aluminum imports.

About 86 per cent of Chinese aluminum imports now enter the U.S. tariff-free, while less than one per cent of Canadian aluminum shipments do.

"If the whole point was to do this for China in the first place, then why are the approval rates for China so much higher than other countries?" said Christine McDaniel, a former White House economic adviser, now a senior research fellow with the Mercatus Center at George Mason University.

"It just doesn't make sense."


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/steel- ... -1.4748745

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We used to spend about $200,000 a year on steel tubing from the US but after the tariffs we now buy from a Chinese company and all of the companies in our industry who were buying American are now doing the same thing.
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Post #1637 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:07 pm

Craig wrote:For me it's because she can barely stammer out a sentence.


She's no Reagan I guess.
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Post #1638 by Craig » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:28 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:
Craig wrote:For me it's because she can barely stammer out a sentence.


She's no Reagan I guess.


My go-to comparison for disproving mental feebleness.
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Post #1639 by Dog » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:30 pm

I thought it was quite good. Not perfect delivery, but substance over form, ladies.
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Post #1640 by Craig » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:36 pm

The substance was shallow though. This was a play on form, pretending to ask questions in a hearing she knew the answers to, but it came off a little halting and superficial.

I mean it's better than the fake moral outrage and partisan bullshit that it's replacing. Faint praise.
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Post #1641 by Dog » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:42 pm

The substance was anything but shallow. The delivery was shallow. Bit of theatre to highlight the ridicule, which I don’t actually mind and think a propos to ridicule the ridiculous. She stammered on a few words and sounded a bit young/inexperienced at times. Maybe they should get 50 year old experienced mens to deliver these things to greg’s liking.

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Post #1642 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:55 pm

Dog wrote:I thought it was quite good. Not perfect delivery, but substance over form, ladies.


Formally she was trying to make the discussion accessible to the average listener with simple and direct language. I think it worked and attracted many thousands of views.
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Post #1643 by chicpea » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:29 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:
Why?


As I said, I only heard the first minute before growing weary. But in that minute, her second charge - against an article in the WP on the legality of paying off Trump's pornlets - was inaccurate at best. Her accusation essentially came down to, "Did you write this article?" while glossing over what the article actually said. The super cut made the author look guilty as well. Very hack.

I read that article a while back - and I could be wrong - but I don't believe it advocated paying off porn stars for their silence, which is how AOC presented it. It merely said that technically, doing so was not illegal, which is AOC's point. Strange and annoying way of going about it. Maybe not her fault. Maybe the editor's??

Anyway, I still support her idea in spirit. I just don't like amateur hour.
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Post #1644 by Dog » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:57 pm

I got from her reference to the article that paying off porn stars during the campaign was not illegal.

Point seemed very simple. You can legally be 100% lobby funded, conflicts regs won’t preclude you from advancing legislation in favour of lobbies that funded you and, heck, you won’t even be precluded from holding shares in the very industries you are drating legislation about. This is congress, even less rules apply to the potus. Heck, even silencing people with cash during the campaign is legal.

That is all grossly afoul of any sort of good governance and sound conflicts rules. It’s appalling.

Highlighted well, I though. Delivery was kinda meh, mostly because she sounds like a freshman in her first debate.
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Post #1646 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:44 pm

Okay so AOC said something inaccurate about pornstars and her style is too freshmany. I thinks demps was right to leave this place.
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Post #1647 by chicpea » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:30 pm

I don't think it's too much of me to ask that people be articulate and fair.
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Post #1648 by clawfirst » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:48 pm

Beggers cant be choosers chic. Less evil is win enough
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Post #1649 by chicpea » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:56 pm

You are right on this one. I am wrong. These are desperate times enveloping us in evil. I will take inarticulate and morally superior over pure evil.
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