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Post #51 by jester » Tue May 12, 2015 4:08 pm

dempsey_k wrote:Culmination, sure. But ... guillotine. Revolutions properly understood, include a violent increase in democratic power at the expense of aristocratic and monarchic.


Eh ... that's a democratic revolution. Revolutions do not necessarily need to be democratic. Where you have a stronger case is in applying the term to a process that was stretched out, as opposed to contained to a short period of time.
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Post #52 by jester » Tue May 12, 2015 4:12 pm

dempsey_k wrote:To be sure, if you look at the English Civil War, the CABAL Govt in the Restoration, the Glorious Revolution, and the various acts passed in the early 18th century 4th dimensionally, they all line up with what took place in France in 1792-99 to be properly called a revolution in slow motion. But in the end, when Napoleon came knocking on Britain's door, there's a reason the lack of suffrage was cause for concern. I can't remember the figures but I think even in the American revolution the big change in those who had the vote only became one in six people, and it was far worse in Britain.


True to a point, and there was considerable work by the British government to counter radical politics ... but it's pretty easy to make the case that Catholic rights mattered a great deal more in the 1790s to the British than electoral reform.

Also worth noting: by the time Napoleon came knocking, there were very few illusions about the French Revolution remaining in Britain.
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Post #53 by IcE ColD » Wed May 13, 2015 12:25 pm

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Post #54 by senate » Thu May 14, 2015 11:48 am

Thomas Malthus wrote:I'd rather Ottawa's David Cameron running the country.


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Post #55 by Walrus » Sat May 16, 2015 1:35 pm

Britain, what have you done?
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Post #56 by Redden Punches Faces » Sun May 17, 2015 5:25 pm

the Malthus line runs deep in the old country
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