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Post #10401 by Retardé S » Wed May 23, 2018 3:05 pm

Can't wait for the Liechtenstein probe, see how that pans out.
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Post #10402 by chicpea » Wed May 23, 2018 7:22 pm

Some Mueller Scenarios:


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Post #10404 by chicpea » Wed May 23, 2018 8:06 pm

Some Mueller Scenarios: Nixon Option


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Post #10405 by Susf » Wed May 23, 2018 8:08 pm

chicpea wrote:
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Would seem risky. I think there needs to be clear cut evidence of collusion during the campaign. Firing James Comey doesn't seem like it has enough umph to take Trump down. It will look like a set up. Mueller needs to show the goods, TS stuff on Russia.
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Post #10406 by mayoradamwest » Wed May 23, 2018 9:18 pm

Money laundering seems inevitable here, but would they even bother with that?
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Post #10407 by Susf » Wed May 23, 2018 9:21 pm

That's kind of what I mean. They could easily take down Trump for anything but if its not related to the 2016 campaign and Russian interference, there will be a ton of push back from the GOP.

Really depends on how the pendulum swings in the mid terms. Dems winning seats will change the calculus.
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Post #10408 by chicpea » Wed May 23, 2018 9:36 pm

How about Murder?
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Post #10410 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 9:54 am

Trump cancelled the Singapore summit.

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Post #10411 by TittiesNBeer » Thu May 24, 2018 9:55 am

So about that Nobel prize?
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Post #10412 by Craig » Thu May 24, 2018 10:06 am

He wrote a letter that describes his own actions as a detriment to the world.
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Post #10413 by TittiesNBeer » Thu May 24, 2018 10:07 am

Craig wrote:He wrote a letter that describes his own actions as a detriment to the world.
Just repeating what he hears on tv of course.

Someone must have changed the channel from fox without him noticing.
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Post #10414 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 10:08 am

TittiesNBeer wrote:So about that Nobel prize?


I'm sure Trump will still win the Nobel Prize for Economics for The Art of the Deal. A fake Nobel for a fake tycoon.
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Post #10415 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 12:07 pm

Looks like the South Korean government received no advanced warning and only found out about it through the media.
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Post #10416 by Dog » Thu May 24, 2018 12:19 pm

senate wrote:
TittiesNBeer wrote:So about that Nobel prize?


I'm sure Trump will still win the Nobel Prize for Economics for The Art of the Deal. A fake Nobel for a fake tycoon.


The nobel prize for economics will come from providing experimental evidence that low taxes and regulations create an unsustainable short term economic boom by allowing firms to aggregate wealth by externalizing costs.
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Post #10417 by Dog » Thu May 24, 2018 12:26 pm

senate wrote:Looks like the South Korean government received no advanced warning and only found out about it through the media.


To be fair, I’d be fairly pissed at SK for peddling this if I was America. Grossly naive from all sides.
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Post #10418 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 12:32 pm

And the shit show keeps going:

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Post #10419 by Dog » Thu May 24, 2018 12:41 pm

Kindergarten International Relations.
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Post #10420 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 12:41 pm

Dog wrote:To be fair, I’d be fairly pissed at SK for peddling this if I was America. Grossly naive from all sides.


I don't know how you can blame the South Koreans for trying to use diplomacy to ease military tensions on their northern border. The fantasies that talks would result in North Korea giving up its nuclear weapons or create a path to regime change all came from the Trump administration.
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Post #10421 by Dog » Thu May 24, 2018 12:58 pm

senate wrote:
Dog wrote:To be fair, I’d be fairly pissed at SK for peddling this if I was America. Grossly naive from all sides.


I don't know how you can blame the South Koreans for trying to use diplomacy to ease military tensions on their northern border. The fantasies that talks would result in North Korea giving up its nuclear weapons or create a path to regime change all came from the Trump administration.


The roadblocks were always clear. I blame everybody involved in this charade for pretending they magically no longer existed. Failed « talks » can be worse than no talks in how they affect future positions and actions. Not worth risking if there is no reasonable chance of success.
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Post #10422 by Susf » Thu May 24, 2018 1:04 pm

Everyone got a little soft. Once we get back to nuclear threats of obliteration, I suspect hands will be forced into a summit.
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Post #10423 by Susf » Thu May 24, 2018 1:06 pm

radical

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Post #10424 by Dog » Thu May 24, 2018 1:12 pm

For a summit to happen one of two things need to happen. 1. NK knows regime survival is tied to ability to inflict catastrophic pain on others if attacked. They won’t give up their ability to do so. Either you accept their avility to do so unrestrained or there is a level of capacity that you can tolerate and they can tolerate. The later is hard. They won’t tie themselves to inspections and limits on futur tech and capabilities. 2. Starve them out. That requires China on board with starving them out. China has no incentive to kill the regime and seeing SK/America extend to their borders.

A summit makes no sense unless there is a breakthrough out of the deadlock. And it could be that equilibrium is set at the deadlock. It’s worked for decades and can continue to work. It’s not as nice as reconciliation and openness, but it’s equilibrium and maybbe the only viable solution until a game changer happens.

Beyond military capacity, I don’t even think NK has any incentive to open up to SK. How do they expect to keep thr regime unchanged with high speed trains running hourly to Seoul and whatnot?
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Post #10425 by Susf » Thu May 24, 2018 1:15 pm

I think ultimately you had SK telling KJU one thing and Pompeo and Trump telling him another which lead to what the hell is this summit about? "We're not giving up all of our nukes"

NK/China would love to drive a wedge between SK and US.
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Post #10426 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 1:16 pm

Dog wrote:The roadblocks were always clear. I blame everybody involved in this charade for pretending they magically no longer existed. Failed « talks » can be worse than no talks in how they affect future positions and actions. Not worth risking if there is no reasonable chance of success.


The South Korean-North Korean talks were successful. They agreed to move past the armistice to a permanent peace deal - something that both sides haven't been able to agree to in 65 years. That won't end tension on the peninsula, but it an important step in the (very) long path to peace. The problem is that was too much success. It attracted the glory hound Trump administration into wanting to take a hands on role.
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Post #10427 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 1:24 pm

The goal of South Korea (and Japan and China) isn't opening North Korea or reunification. It is to ease tensions so that the Korean peninsula isn't constantly on the brink of war. Everyone would be happy to leave North Korea alone if North Korea would only leave them alone too.
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Post #10428 by senate » Thu May 24, 2018 1:29 pm

Anyways, the Korea stuff is old news now:

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Post #10429 by Dog » Thu May 24, 2018 2:14 pm

senate wrote:Everyone would be happy to leave North Korea alone if North Korea would only leave them alone too.


Nah, they don’t accept NK capacity to strike them. At least Japan and US don’t. They also can’t do much about it. So, you get what we have here.
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Post #10430 by mayoradamwest » Thu May 24, 2018 3:16 pm

I’m wondering if bringing up Lybia was the best move. I could see musing about an assasination being taken the wrong way for some reason.
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Post #10431 by Susf » Thu May 24, 2018 3:27 pm

This kind of is Bolton's fault for going on cable news and saying the Libya model should be used for NK. NK media immediately jumped on it.
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Post #10432 by Dog » Thu May 24, 2018 6:44 pm

That HAD to be intentional, though. Right?
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Post #10433 by mayoradamwest » Thu May 24, 2018 7:57 pm

Dog wrote:That HAD to be intentional, though. Right?


To what end? Derail the nobel peace prize effort?
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Post #10434 by Dog » Thu May 24, 2018 9:34 pm

mayoradamwest wrote:
Dog wrote:That HAD to be intentional, though. Right?


To what end? Derail the nobel peace prize effort?


He thought it was bullshit and called it. « This going to be my way or the highway, fucktards. You can kneel and we can discuss implementing my way, otherwise fuck off with your ´negotiations’ ».

Basically, he would have torpedoed Trump’s little game. Perhaps fearing the US gets ‘suckered’ into making concessions. He protected the hard line.

Or, he’s a tone deaf idiot.
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Post #10435 by mayoradamwest » Thu May 24, 2018 9:56 pm

When Donald trump achieve world peace, we won’t be complaining about how the sausage gets made. Unless it’s trump brand sausage I guess. :dunno:
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Post #10436 by IcE ColD » Thu May 24, 2018 10:12 pm

Best sausage in the world, I guarantee you that
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Post #10437 by Dog » Thu May 24, 2018 10:32 pm

mayoradamwest wrote:When Donald trump achieve world peace, we won’t be complaining about how the sausage gets made. Unless it’s trump brand sausage I guess. :dunno:


Reagan brought down the soviet dictatorship, bush brought down the iraqi dictatorship and Trump will bring down the Iranian and north korean dictatorships.

Plutocracy > Autocracy

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Post #10439 by senate » Fri May 25, 2018 9:19 am

Predsfan raises an interesting question, who has the bigger ego: Trump or Noel Gallagher?
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Post #10441 by Susf » Fri May 25, 2018 12:40 pm

does she mean build a wall with Canada?



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Post #10442 by Dog » Fri May 25, 2018 1:02 pm

A wall could help keep out all the illegal migrants coming up through the States....

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Post #10443 by Susf » Fri May 25, 2018 1:05 pm

Southpark had a great episode just about that. The Americans thought behind the wall was some type of paradise but it was a ghost town of zombies and murder.



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Post #10444 by chicpea » Fri May 25, 2018 3:22 pm

I would pay up to 3% more taxes per year to have a wall to keep out the gauche, obese, American tourists with ostentatious gold jewellery strung tightly round their sick, fleshy limbs who flood my neighbourhood every spring and summer and fall and winter.
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Post #10445 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:27 pm

i had that growing up every summer. the town i lived in was home to many american cottagers who asked dumb questions all the time. i once had a car of americans pull up as they drove by my house with skis strapped to their car and ask seriously where the nearest ski hill was. i told them that the nearest one was actually back over the border where they came from, except it would be open for another four months when it started snowing. i assumed that they were trying to pull some kind of prank, but they seemed very genuine.

i later realized that canadians were stupid too. just in a different way. like answering questions of stupid americans driving cars with skis on the roof in the middle of the summer in small town ontario.
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Post #10446 by Susf » Fri May 25, 2018 4:55 pm

susf.

I suspect you'll all be singing a different tune when President Crump declares war on Canada and Mexico because NAFTA talks fall through. How about some respect for the super power below you that could overrun your entire military in no time but hasn't. We've been a wonderful neighbor.

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Post #10447 by mayoradamwest » Fri May 25, 2018 5:17 pm

So are they like, charging for the drug infused mussels?
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Post #10449 by Craig » Fri May 25, 2018 11:37 pm

Cuz I would definitely order drug mussels.
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Post #10450 by Susf » Sat May 26, 2018 8:36 am

Drug mussels from Canada*


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