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Post #9251 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:52 pm

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Post #9253 by jester » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:16 am

senate wrote:Apparently, the Government Services Administration warned the Trump transition team that there is no expectation of privacy on government devices and email accounts and that any records would be handed over to law enforcement without a warrant. But Trump legal team is now saying that the general counsel for the GSA, Richard Beckler (who was appointed by Trump), made an oral promise to the Trump legal team not to hand over any records to law enforcement and to instead forward any requests to Trump's lawyers.

Oh and Beckler died back in August so there is no way to prove this didn't happen. Weird that no one wrote anything down though.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/the-trump-campaign-claims-a-federal-office-illegally-turned?utm_term=.cgLvoy8Bw#.omG3jo2r4


Yeah, two options. It happened and either they're incompetent or the promise was illegal/unenforceable. Or they're lying now.

At least the Bush crowd wasn't a bunch of morons.
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Post #9254 by senate » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:23 pm

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Post #9256 by senate » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:32 pm

How bad is the plutocracy getting in America? Bad enough that neocons like Bill Kristol are starting to get edgy:

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Post #9257 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:37 pm

He is so close.
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Post #9259 by Craig » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:53 pm

Wait, there are companies handing out tax cut bonuses? For real?

That's like, super dumb. Their shareholders should revolt.
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Post #9260 by senate » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:33 pm

Craig wrote:Wait, there are companies handing out tax cut bonuses? For real?

That's like, super dumb. Their shareholders should revolt.


AT&T announced today that they are going to give 200,000 employees a $1000 bonus. That is $200 million, which is nothing compared to the billions that AT&T is expected to make from the tax cuts or the billions it will probably make from the end of net neutrality.

Also, AT&T is appealing the Justice Department's rejection of its merger with Time Warner and giving Trump something to brag about when he signed the tax bill today can only help that.
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Post #9261 by Dog » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:02 pm

I wish I was a corporation.

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Post #9264 by jester » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:37 am

Craig wrote:Wait, there are companies handing out tax cut bonuses? For real?

That's like, super dumb. Their shareholders should revolt.


It's PR. They can read the electoral tea leaves as well as anyone, and they're hoping to hoodwink voters into thinking this tax cut equates to meaningful wage/job growth. Nevermind that they've been sitting on record profits, and these payouts are a drop in the bucket. It is impressively cynical, even for corporate America.

That being said, they likely have legit concerns that if they do nothing, they could be staring down an angry, and empowered progressive federal government (with major shifts left at the state and local level as well) in 2021. At which point, tax increases would be expected for corporations and the wealthy.
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Post #9265 by MP » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:27 pm

jester wrote:
Craig wrote:Wait, there are companies handing out tax cut bonuses? For real?

That's like, super dumb. Their shareholders should revolt.


It's PR. They can read the electoral tea leaves as well as anyone, and they're hoping to hoodwink voters into thinking this tax cut equates to meaningful wage/job growth. Nevermind that they've been sitting on record profits, and these payouts are a drop in the bucket. It is impressively cynical, even for corporate America.

That being said, they likely have legit concerns that if they do nothing, they could be staring down an angry, and empowered progressive federal government (with major shifts left at the state and local level as well) in 2021. At which point, tax increases would be expected for corporations and the wealthy.

And they think $1000 is going to fix it?
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Post #9266 by jester » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:34 pm

MP wrote:
jester wrote:
Craig wrote:Wait, there are companies handing out tax cut bonuses? For real?

That's like, super dumb. Their shareholders should revolt.


It's PR. They can read the electoral tea leaves as well as anyone, and they're hoping to hoodwink voters into thinking this tax cut equates to meaningful wage/job growth. Nevermind that they've been sitting on record profits, and these payouts are a drop in the bucket. It is impressively cynical, even for corporate America.

That being said, they likely have legit concerns that if they do nothing, they could be staring down an angry, and empowered progressive federal government (with major shifts left at the state and local level as well) in 2021. At which point, tax increases would be expected for corporations and the wealthy.

And they think $1000 is going to fix it?


They very likely assume there is very little they can do to fix it. I mean, it's nice that these employees get a bonus but what would be necessary is a systemic and widespread positive response ... and everyone agrees that won't happen (at least not like the GOP is trying to pitch it). So, they are making these splashy announcements in association with the bill passing ... and hoping for the best.

Everyone is operating under the assumption that 2018 is going to be politically eventful, and then we hit 2019 and it's time to start talking Trump re-election.
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Post #9267 by senate » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:00 pm

I can't imagine that Trump is going to be happy with the international community's open defiance to his threat over the General Assembly Jerusalem vote.

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Post #9268 by Dog » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:15 pm

Canada abstained. As did Mexico and Australia. Haley stated that abstentions are taken by US as in support.

EU big boys and Japan, amongst allies, voted in favour.
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Post #9269 by senate » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:31 pm

Dog wrote:Canada abstained. As did Mexico and Australia. Haley stated that abstentions are taken by US as in support.

EU big boys and Japan, amongst allies, voted in favour.


I think that spin on Haley's part.

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senate wrote:
Dog wrote:Canada abstained. As did Mexico and Australia. Haley stated that abstentions are taken by US as in support.

EU big boys and Japan, amongst allies, voted in favour.


I think that spin on Haley's part.



And that’s spin on Canada’s part.

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Post #9271 by senate » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:29 pm

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Post #9272 by chicpea » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:15 pm

Lots of people like to get aids and travel to the US.
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Post #9274 by TittiesNBeer » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:52 pm

senate wrote::hillary:



Just remember, it only seems like they elected the biggest idiot in the country. There are actually bigger idiots and most of them voted for him.
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Post #9275 by TittiesNBeer » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:59 pm

And we keep moving closer and closer to the goal.

Up next: Kushner, Cambridge Analytica, and the RNC.

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Post #9276 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:00 pm

I'm confused.


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Post #9277 by senate » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:18 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:I'm confused.




9% of respondents in a Reuters poll list Hillary as the woman they most admire. So Hillary's unpopularity doesn't dissuade her diehard base, just like Trump.
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Post #9279 by senate » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:35 pm

So was that tense phone call with the Australian PM at the start of the year because Trump knew the Australians tried to warn the US government about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia?

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cnn has a lady on a bus in denver on a pot bus, some guy just took a giant bong rip out of a gas mask.
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Welcome to #theresistance, Steve.
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Post #9288 by Dog » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:34 pm

I figure the falling out between the two is over Roy Moore.

In any event, this is great news!

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Post #9289 by senate » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:57 pm

Goddamn it, I may have to buy that book.



This story is adapted from Michael Wolff’s book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, to be published by Henry Holt & Co. on January 9. Wolff, who chronicles the administration from Election Day to this past October, conducted conversations and interviews over a period of 18 months with the president, most members of his senior staff, and many people to whom they in turn spoke. Shortly after Trump’s inauguration, Wolff says, he was able to take up “something like a semi-permanent seat on a couch in the West Wing” — an idea encouraged by the president himself. Because no one was in a position to either officially approve or formally deny such access, Wolff became “more a constant interloper than an invited guest.” There were no ground rules placed on his access, and he was required to make no promises about how he would report on what he witnessed.

Since then, he conducted more than 200 interviews. In true Trumpian fashion, the administration’s lack of experience and disdain for political norms made for a hodgepodge of journalistic challenges. Information would be provided off-the-record or on deep background, then casually put on the record. Sources would fail to set any parameters on the use of a conversation, or would provide accounts in confidence, only to subsequently share their views widely. And the president’s own views, private as well as public, were constantly shared by others. The adaptation presented here offers a front-row view of Trump’s presidency, from his improvised transition to his first months in the Oval Office.
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Buried in the news today, Trump has dissolved his voter fraud panel.

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senate wrote:Goddamn it, I may have to buy that book.



This story is adapted from Michael Wolff’s book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, to be published by Henry Holt & Co. on January 9. Wolff, who chronicles the administration from Election Day to this past October, conducted conversations and interviews over a period of 18 months with the president, most members of his senior staff, and many people to whom they in turn spoke. Shortly after Trump’s inauguration, Wolff says, he was able to take up “something like a semi-permanent seat on a couch in the West Wing” — an idea encouraged by the president himself. Because no one was in a position to either officially approve or formally deny such access, Wolff became “more a constant interloper than an invited guest.” There were no ground rules placed on his access, and he was required to make no promises about how he would report on what he witnessed.

Since then, he conducted more than 200 interviews. In true Trumpian fashion, the administration’s lack of experience and disdain for political norms made for a hodgepodge of journalistic challenges. Information would be provided off-the-record or on deep background, then casually put on the record. Sources would fail to set any parameters on the use of a conversation, or would provide accounts in confidence, only to subsequently share their views widely. And the president’s own views, private as well as public, were constantly shared by others. The adaptation presented here offers a front-row view of Trump’s presidency, from his improvised transition to his first months in the Oval Office.


Priebus demonstrated no ability to keep Trump from talking to anyone who wanted his ear. The president-elect enjoyed being courted. On December 14, a high-level delegation from Silicon Valley came to Trump Tower to meet him. Later that afternoon, according to a source privy to details of the conversation, Trump called Rupert Murdoch, who asked him how the meeting had gone.

“Oh, great, just great,” said Trump. “These guys really need my help. Obama was not very favorable to them, too much regulation. This is really an opportunity for me to help them.”

“Donald,” said Murdoch, “for eight years these guys had Obama in their pocket. They practically ran the administration. They don’t need your help.”

“Take this H-1B visa issue. They really need these H-1B visas.”

Murdoch suggested that taking a liberal approach to H-1B visas, which open America’s doors to select immigrants, might be hard to square with his promises to build a wall and close the borders. But Trump seemed unconcerned, assuring Murdoch, “We’ll figure it out.”

“What a fucking idiot,” said Murdoch, shrugging, as he got off the phone.



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Post #9292 by Dog » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:23 pm

I’m quite partial, personally, to the bit about Trump being paranoid for decades about being poisoned and eats McDonalds to prevent poisoning attempts.

Fantastic stuff!
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The First Children couple were having to navigate Trump’s volatile nature just like everyone else in the White House. And they were willing to do it for the same reason as everyone else — in the hope that Trump’s unexpected victory would catapult them into a heretofore unimagined big time. Balancing risk against reward, both Jared and Ivanka decided to accept roles in the West Wing over the advice of almost everyone they knew. It was a joint decision by the couple, and, in some sense, a joint job. Between themselves, the two had made an earnest deal: If sometime in the future the opportunity arose, she’d be the one to run for president. The first woman president, Ivanka entertained, would not be Hillary Clinton; it would be Ivanka Trump.

Bannon, who had coined the term “Jarvanka” that was now in ever greater use in the White House, was horrified when the couple’s deal was reported to him. “They didn’t say that?” he said. “Stop. Oh, come on. They didn’t actually say that? Please don’t tell me that. Oh my God.”
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Post #9294 by Dog » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:02 pm

Trump’s lawyer sends cease and desist letter to Bannon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html


This is going to be, like, soooooooooooooooooooo fucken good.
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Post #9295 by senate » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:21 pm

Today's going great.

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Post #9296 by senate » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:28 pm

Dog wrote:Trump’s lawyer sends cease and desist letter to Bannon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html


This is going to be, like, soooooooooooooooooooo fucken good.


So to satiate Trump's desire for revenge his legal team just acknowledged that the book, or at least Bannon's parts of it, are true.
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Post #9297 by senate » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:57 am

Michael Wolff wrote a piece today for the Hollywood Reporter. It is less detailed and less interesting than the NYMag piece, but it ends with this chestnut:

At Mar-a-Lago, just before the new year, a heavily made-up Trump failed to recognize a succession of old friends.

Happy first anniversary of the Trump administration.


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-wolff-my-insane-year-inside-trumps-white-house-1071504
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