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Post #951 by Slick Nick » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:04 pm

The war will end when the people in Kiev will want it to end. It's a very good scapegoat for all their failures and keeps collective IQ very low SLAAAAVA UKARIIINEEEE HEEROOYAM SLAAAVAA.
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Post #953 by Slick Nick » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:25 am

As much as I dislike Saakashvili, I have to say that while in Gerogia I was really impressed with the police and the govmt officials. The reforms he put in place seemed to have had a profound impact on society at large, I hope Ukraine enjoys the same kind of improvement.
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Post #954 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:21 pm

http://www.stripes.com/news/nato-approv ... t-1.418085

Top U.S. military officials in Europe have warned Russia’s edge in regional firepower means it has the ability to restrict NATO access to the Baltics and Black Sea regions — known as Anti-Access/Area Denial. Yet, allies spend little time focused on developing their own capabilities in that area, experts say.


Had Crimea remained Ukrainian (err... became American), this problem (Black sea region access) would have gone away.
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Post #955 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:23 pm

Russia is so freaking horrifying and NATO is so weak. But oops, their respective spending suggests otherwise.

In 2015, NATO’s 28 states spent a total of $892 billion on defense, according to a recent NATO press release. European members accounted for $235 billion of that total.

Meanwhile, Russia’s defense budget last year amounted to $66 billion, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, an influential think-tank which tracks arms expenditure around the world.
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Post #956 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:50 pm

The report, by the way, was written by Jeffrey Lewis, a former employee of the State department.
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Post #957 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:26 pm

Partisan Western thinktanks and newspapers have been relying on fraudsters like Bellingcat to feed them with analysis on MH17. Problem is that Bellingcat used this guy's program and did it incorrectly. Read his post here: http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/

More context also here: https://consortiumnews.com/2016/07/22/w ... ian-fraud/

The clear implication of the article by Andrew E. Kramer was that the Russians were covering up their complicity in shooting down the civilian airliner by allegedly doctoring photos to shift the blame to the Ukrainian military. Beyond citing this analysis by armscontrolwonk.com, Kramer noted that the “citizen journalists” at Bellingcat had reached the same conclusion earlier.

But Kramer and the Times left out that the earlier Bellingcat analysis was thoroughly torn apart by photo-forensic experts including Dr. Neal Krawetz, founder of the FotoForensics digital image analytical tool that Bellingcat had used. Over the past week, Bellingcat has been aggressively pushing the new analysis by armscontrolwonk.com, with which Bellingcat has close relationships.

This past week, Krawetz and other forensic specialists began weighing in on the new analysis and concluding that it suffered the same fundamental errors as the previous analysis, albeit using a different analytical tool. Given Bellingcat’s promotion of this second analysis by a group with links to Bellingcat and its founder Eliot Higgins, Krawetz viewed the two analyses as essentially coming from the same place, Bellingcat.

“Jumping to the wrong conclusion one time can be due to ignorance,” Krawetz explained in a blog post. “However, using a different tool on the same data that yields similar results, and still jumping to the same wrong conclusion is intentional misrepresentation and deception. It is fraud.”


Some other interesting stuff. Is it too much to ask for the New York Times to question the objectivity of these 'studies'?


Research on the credentials of the authors of the Arms Control Wonk blog post http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/ ... niversary/ offers a glimpse at the constantly revolving door between the US intelligence establishment and the private sector.

Dr. Jeffrey Lewis, the founding publisher of Arms Control Wonk and principal author of the “MH17 Anniversary” blog post, works at the Middlebury Institute for International Studies at Monterey (MIIM).

Lewis’ main collaborator at Arms Control Wonk is Aaron Stein, a fellow at the Atlantic Council “regime change” think tank. Founded at the height of Cold War, the Atlantic Council is managed by a who’s who of Pentagon and Western intelligence, including four former Directors of the US Central Intelligence Agency.

Eliot Higgins has been a principal co-author of multiple recent Atlantic Council “reports” on Syria and Ukraine. These propaganda documents produced by the Atlantic Council heavily rely on “digital forensics” chicanery amply supplied by Higgins and Bellingcat.

Higgins’ fellow principal author of the Atlantic Council “reports” was John E. Herbst, United States Ambassador to Ukraine from September 2003 to May 2006 (the period that became known as the Orange Revolution) and Director of the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Center.

Lewis and his team of “researchers” at Arms Control Wonk have been colluding with the faux “independent investigative journalists” at Bellingcat for some time.

In a Twitter exchange on 22 April 2016, Bellingcat contributor Veli-Pekka Kivimäki asked if Lewis was “using Tungstene now”. Lewis exclaimed in response that it was “really fun running photos through it” twitter.com:723425393256984576

Lewis’ MH17 blog post co-author Catherine Dill http://www.nonproliferation.org/experts/catherine_dill/ previously worked as a consultant at Booz Allen Hamilton, one of America’s biggest security contractors. Dill holds an MA degree from MIIS, and a BS in Foreign Service from Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service.

Lewis’ other MH17 blog post co-author, Melissa Hanham https://www.linkedin.com/in/mhanham is a former Research Analyst for the George Soros founded International Crisis Group (2006-2008) http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/board.aspx

A Graduate Assistant (2010) turned Research Associate (2012) turned faculty at MIIM, Hanham is described on her “experts” bio as “a regular contributor to Arms Control Wonk and Bellingcat” http://www.nonproliferation.org/experts/melissa-hanham/

However, Hanham’s bio linked to the Arms Control Wonk blog post http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/author/melissa/ curiously neglects to mention her multiple contributions to Bellingcat https://www.bellingcat.com/author/melissa-hanham/

Apparently Hanham does “very neat stuff” for Bellingcat twitter.com:591657534244556800

Regardless of their credentials in other areas, not one of the “researchers” at Middlebury Institute for International Studies at Monterey has expertise in digital image analysis.

Just like Higgins and his crew at Bellingcat, the authors of the Arms Control Wonk “MH17 Anniversary” blog post are just having “fun” with Tungstene.


Under "Abe" in https://consortiumnews.com/2016/07/19/f ... 17-report/
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Post #959 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:05 pm

McFaul deleted some of his tweets in the convo, but here he is being taken to school: twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/748291969588338688

See:


Yet:
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Then:
* crickets *
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Post #960 by edgar_dong » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:18 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:Then:
* crickets *


Oh little town in U.S.A, your time has come to see
There's nothing you believe you want
But where were you when it all came down on me?
Did you call me now?
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Post #962 by Craig » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:27 pm

People from Ukraine, he means.
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Post #963 by Dog » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:43 pm

I think he means neo-nazis from Ukraine.
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Post #964 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:36 am

Craig wrote:Oligarchs from Ukraine, he means.


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Post #965 by Craig » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:05 am

Oligarchs are people too, chim.
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Post #966 by AD » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:48 am

Oligarch lives matter.
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Post #967 by Dog » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:35 am

Oligarch lives matter most.
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Post #969 by Slick Nick » Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:12 pm

It's heating up in SLAAAAVA UKRAINEEEE HERROOYAM SLAAAAVAAAA. Heavy equipement being moved in Crimea apparently and Russia accuses ukies of killing a border guard there...
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Post #970 by Slick Nick » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:51 am

Chaos Reigns wrote:Face saving aggressive gestures to make up for the broken siege in Aleppo. Putin's manhood (and therefore all Russians') is on the line.


So he decided to kill his own countrymens in Krym (the classic ruski falsflag) and do nothing in retaliation because Aleppo. American logic people, light years ahead of classic logic.
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Post #971 by Dog » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:05 pm

This was interedting:

Are Russia's military advances a problem for Nato?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37045730

We need better adversaries to sharpen our military capacities. #Hillary_can
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Post #973 by Slick Nick » Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:23 am

The Minsk agreement and the reasons for current Russia-Ukraine tensions

http://rbth.com/opinion/2016/08/12/the- ... ons_620637
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Post #974 by Slick Nick » Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:08 pm

Now that's solid evidence chaos lol
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Post #975 by senate » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:09 pm

If the Americans could fake a moon landing to embarrass the Soviets, then surely they could also fake a full moon to embarrass the Russians.
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Post #976 by Slick Nick » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:39 pm

Chaos Reigns wrote:
Slick Nick wrote:Now that's solid evidence chaos lol


It's not quite up to the standard of the Pepe race science memes you get from Stormfront-RUS?


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Post #977 by Dog » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:20 pm

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Post #978 by Slick Nick » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:09 pm

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Post #979 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:21 pm

What would be the motivation for Putin to lie about this alleged attack on Crimea? If anything, this is embarrassing for him.
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Post #980 by Slick Nick » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:20 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:What would be the motivation for Putin to lie about this alleged attack on Crimea? If anything, this is embarrassing for him.


Full moons don't lie Chims. Besides, the official version of Kiev is that drunken russian border guards shot drunken FSB agents and that's how the ukrainian ATO member got caught in Crimea.
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Post #981 by Pennywise » Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:43 pm

It's Time To Consign Nato To History, And Look To Future
September 02, 1994

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994 ... al-defense
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Post #982 by Slick Nick » Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:10 am

Pennywise wrote:It's Time To Consign Nato To History, And Look To Future
September 02, 1994

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994 ... al-defense


Russian-German friendship.

200 years of hard work to make it impossible.
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Post #983 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:11 am

I am developing nostalgia for all the Interpretermag neocon content we used to get in this thread.
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Post #984 by Slick Nick » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:24 am

We're not russian, we're not soviet lol

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Post #986 by Dog » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:23 pm

Next, Crimea.

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Post #987 by Dog » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:25 pm

Quick, somebody ask Gary Johnson what he thinks about liberating Sevastopol.
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Post #988 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:36 pm

Brother of a friend joined the Ukes' war effort a couple of months back to fight the dreaded Russians (but mostly because he was unemployed and hoped to make a career in the military).

Stepped on a mine and blew off his legs.
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Post #989 by Slick Nick » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:58 pm

mdaaa... sad thing, really.

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Post #990 by Slick Nick » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:12 pm





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Post #991 by Dog » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:19 pm

Dr Slickmera, why haven't you posted this:

http://harpers.org/archive/2016/12/the-new-red-scare/
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Post #992 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:25 am

Carr is on twitter and is worth following if one is interested in this subject: https://twitter.com/jeffreycarr
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Post #993 by Dog » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:54 am

Didn't the Ruskie foreign minister pretty much admit to helping wikileaks, as in "we didn't interfere with the election, well other than that wikileaks stuff maybe"?

Otherwise, I thought that article was shocking -not least of which for the tremendous amount of waste of government funds that could have done so much more.
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Post #994 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:54 pm

That was just one of those 'gotcha' quotes taken out of context. Does not mean they didn't interfere, but there remains no hard evidence.

The Russian interference narrative was mostly an election tactic by the DNC and it failed miserably.
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Post #995 by Dog » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:14 am

Give sensitive positions to your young intern mistresses:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... SApp_Other
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Post #996 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:16 pm

“The nude pictures are not the problem,” Gerashchenko said.


Ukraine peaked in the Soviet times.
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Post #997 by MP » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:45 pm

I was promised nude intern photos... Yet there's no link.
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Post #998 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:04 pm

Awake the children, alert the neighbors.

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Post #999 by Dog » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:30 pm

Why am I seeing graphic images of a dead Russian ambassador on the front page of respectable news sites? Is it because it is not quite fully human?
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Post #1000 by Slick Nick » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:43 pm

Shamelessly enjoying those ukrainians fooling out.






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