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Post #801 by pk shredz » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:06 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:Evidence of Canadian involvement in the regime change: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadia ... -1.3148719


It was there from day one. Harper is a fucking hawk when it comes to his neo-nazi thug friends in Kiev.
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Post #802 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:42 pm

Why does Washington want to go to war with Russia on the side of neo-Nazis and Islamists?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... wards-war/
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Post #804 by pk shredz » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:48 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:Why does Washington want to go to war with Russia on the side of neo-Nazis and Islamists?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... wards-war/


Whats up with the reports of ISIS jihadi's training with Ukrainian forces and militias to fight the "Russians"
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Post #805 by Slick Nick » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:24 am

luke brings the susfs wrote:
Dr_Chimera wrote:Why does Washington want to go to war with Russia on the side of neo-Nazis and Islamists?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... wards-war/


Whats up with the reports of ISIS jihadi's training with Ukrainian forces and militias to fight the "Russians"


I hope they get paid in Salo.
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Post #806 by Slick Nick » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:29 am

I wonder how much more time will Porosenko hold. Right Sektor does not comply anymore, there have been anti-nazi protests in the nationalist capital city of Lviv. Wages and pensions are down to sub-saharan rates... fall is usually the time of the year when it happens.
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Post #807 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:22 am

Slick Nick wrote:I wonder how much more time will Porosenko hold. Right Sektor does not comply anymore, there have been anti-nazi protests in the nationalist capital city of Lviv. Wages and pensions are down to sub-saharan rates... fall is usually the time of the year when it happens.


Georgians already disenchanted with West (in Russian): http://carnegie.ru/2015/07/23/ru-60818/idtt
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Post #808 by Slick Nick » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:55 pm

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Slick Nick wrote:I wonder how much more time will Porosenko hold. Right Sektor does not comply anymore, there have been anti-nazi protests in the nationalist capital city of Lviv. Wages and pensions are down to sub-saharan rates... fall is usually the time of the year when it happens.


Georgians already disenchanted with West (in Russian): http://carnegie.ru/2015/07/23/ru-60818/idtt


Sometimes resuming business with your largest partner is usually a better option than beg a stranger. Ukraine still didn't understand that.
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Post #809 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:28 am

Slick Nick wrote:Sometimes resuming business with your largest partner is usually a better option than beg a stranger. Ukraine still didn't understand that.


They've not heard of Schauble yet.
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Post #810 by vf » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:12 am

So this guy was a traitor right fellas? https://news.vice.com/article/putin-on- ... -kgb-agent
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Post #811 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:28 am

vf wrote:So this guy was a traitor right fellas? https://news.vice.com/article/putin-on- ... -kgb-agent


Yes (by any definition), and Putin killed him.
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Post #812 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:34 am

How $1.8 billion in int'l aid to Ukraine ended up in PrivatBank's coffers.

http://harpers.org/blog/2015/08/undelivered-goods/

The international financial agency had rushed the money to Ukraine in April, in response to what IMF managing director Christine Lagarde called a “major crisis.” She went on to hail the government’s “unprecedented resolve” in developing a “bold economic program to secure macroeconomic and financial stability.” Over the next five months the international agency poured the equivalent of $4.51 billion ($2.97 billion in “Special Drawing Rights”—the IMF’s own currency) into the National Bank of Ukraine— the country’s central bank. Much of this money was urgently needed to prop up the local commercial banks. In theory, the IMF appeared to require direct supervision of how the Ukrainian banks used the aid. In fact, it appears the banks got to select their own auditors.


The scheme, as revealed in a series of court judgments of the Economic Court of the Dnipropetrovsk region monitored and reported by Nashi Groshi, worked like this: Forty-two Ukrainian firms owned by fifty-four offshore entities registered in Caribbean, American, and Cypriot jurisdictions and linked to or affiliated with the Privat group of companies, took out loans from PrivatBank in Ukraine to the value of $1.8 billion. The firms then ordered goods from six foreign “supplier” companies, three of which were incorporated in the United Kingdom, two in the British Virgin Islands, one in the Caribbean statelet of St. Kitts & Nevis. Payment for the orders—$1.8 billion—was shortly afterwards prepaid into the vendors’ accounts, which were, coincidentally, in the Cyprus branch of PrivatBank. Once the money was sent, the Ukrainian importing companies arranged with PrivatBank Ukraine that their loans be guaranteed by the goods on order.

But the foreign suppliers invariably reported that they could not fulfill the order after all, thus breaking the contracts, but without any effort to return the money. Finally, the Ukrainian companies filed suit, always in the Dnipropetrovsk Economic Court, demanding that that foreign supplier return the prepayment and also that the guarantee to PrivatBank be cancelled. In forty-two out of forty-two such cases the court issued the identical judgment: the advance payment should be returned to the Ukrainian company, but the loan agreement should remain in force.

As a result, the loan of the Ukrainian company remained guaranteed by the undelivered goods, while the chances of returning the advance payments from foreign companies remain remote. “Basically this transaction of $1.8 bill[ion] abroad with the help of fake contracts was simply an asset siphoning [operation] and a violation of currency legislation in general,” explained Lesya Ivanovna, an investigator with Nashi Groshi in an email to me. “The whole lawsuit story was only needed to make it look like the bank itself is not involved in the scheme . . . officially it looks like PrivatBank now owns the products, though in reality [they] will never be delivered.”
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Post #813 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:38 am

An aside - Stephen Harper's wife, Laureen, claims to have "Ukrainian heritage". Which explains a lot.
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Post #814 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:28 pm

From what I have read, the Dutch MH17 report made some even-handed points. The finger is implicitly pointed at the rebels for shooting down the plane (because the missile trajectory was from the rebel-held area), as most people suspected. Also the Ukrainian government is criticized for not securing the airwaves - correctly, in my opinion.

Russia rejects the report, because accepting it will be difficult to frame on the domestic front. An outright rejection also removes the possibility of a conversation about the incident which would be subject to rhetorical warfare.
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Post #815 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:20 am

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Post #816 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:58 pm

Legacy of Stephen Harper: a push to sell weapons to Ukraine: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le27068830
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Post #818 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:34 pm

Vladimir Uiba, the head of the Federal Medical-Biological Agency which provides medical services to Russian national team competitors, said the strongly critical report was linked to international sanctions against Russia over the annexation of Crimea and the conflict in Ukraine.

Uiba tells the Interfax agency that the report is an "absolutely politically motivated statement from the category of sanctions against Russia. It has no basis because the doping tests which are done are collected from the athletes by WADA commissioners themselves."


Very entertaining stuff.
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Post #820 by Slick Nick » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:27 pm



Never change Ukraine, never change.
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Post #822 by Sturminator » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:49 am

All those years of Russian rule, and what did the Ukrainians learn? Nothing, apparently. They have shamefully forgotten even the basics, like how to poison and imprison the opposition.
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Post #824 by Slick Nick » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:12 am

Cool pics from soviet Ukraine.

http://varlamov.ru/1572484.html

inb4 soviet brobaganda.
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Post #825 by PPJ » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:29 pm

Sturminator wrote:All those years of Russian rule, and what did the Ukrainians learn? Nothing, apparently. They have shamefully forgotten even the basics, like how to poison and imprison the opposition.


Dumfuks didn't even keep their nukes, because the West and Russia agreed to respect their territorial integrity :donger:
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Post #827 by Slick Nick » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:06 am

Nice kid. I wish Malorossia was ruled by people like this instead of nationalist and oligarchic scumbags.

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Post #828 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:53 am

He shouldn't speak in the tongue of the enemy.
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Post #830 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:48 pm

What's this? A Maidan against a US-installed puppet government? Can we get the New York times on this?

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Post #831 by Craig » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:26 pm

Well if some say it, it's good enough for me!
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Post #832 by Slick Nick » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:00 pm

Nah, I believe they're simply celebrating democracy again.



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Post #835 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:53 am

LOL, David Duke got his PhD in Ukraine.
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Post #836 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:49 am

Dog wrote:I take it they like Duke and gave him an honorary Ph.D.


You do?
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Post #837 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:21 pm

Speaking of this "fringe" institution ("Maup"), it is the country's largest "private" university. And at the time David Duke received his PhD there (2005), its board of directors included Viktor Yushchenko (Ukraine's president).

Maup was considered to be a respectable institution in Ukraine up until around 2005/2006, when Yushchenko and Tarasiuk were pressured to leave.
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Post #838 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:29 pm

I wonder that too. Maybe one goes there strictly for the prestige.
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Post #839 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:39 pm

Dog wrote:I'm thinking they are all racist. It being Ukraine and all.


Maybe you and Slick Nick should co-author a newsletter.
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Post #840 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:55 pm

Duke claims that his PhD is not honorary, and that he painstakingly wrote a dissertation on "Jewish supremacy", with the supervision of certain Ukrainian scholars. I don't want to besmirch the good name of David Duke, so I will take his word for it.
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Post #841 by Slick Nick » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:48 am

Dr_Chimera wrote:
Dog wrote:I'm thinking they are all racist. It being Ukraine and all.


Maybe you and Slick Nick should co-author a newsletter.


From all the gathered information I'm apparently mostly ukrainian....... that explains a lot.
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Post #842 by Slick Nick » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:58 am

Dog wrote:Isn't that what all those Russians fighting in eastern Ukraine say?


You mean western Russia right?
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Post #846 by Slick Nick » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:48 am



Democracy intensifies.
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Post #847 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:56 pm

Remember when US's favorite dissidents were Sakharov and Solzhenitsyn, and not Ukrainian fascists?
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Post #848 by Sturminator » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:45 pm

The part where he says "shit, nigga..." at the end is particularly shameless. Beautiful.
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Post #849 by Slick Nick » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:17 pm

It's funny how the refugee crisis predates the russian military intervention by 3 to 5 years yet it's Putin who masterplanned the whole thing from his KGB office. That crisis has certainly nothing to do with the disastrous failures of the american/NATO foriegn policy in Afganistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria though.
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Post #850 by Slick Nick » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:02 pm

Chaos Reigns wrote:You're right, Putin's intervention had absolutely zero, nothing whatsoever at all to do with increased flows of refugees. He is utterly blameless and didn't notice at all whatsoever it was destabilizing Eastern Europe. He even leant a hand to the refugee crisis by accepting many in, and offered solidarity to the liberal parties in Eastern Europe and Ukraine for the uptick in fascism and racism.


When did I say that Russia's intervention did not have consequences of migration? I'm just saying that your theory of Putin's evil plans to destroy Europe through Syria is based solely on farts and "muh Putin is a vampire" feelings. Russia recieved 800 000 Ukrainian refugees, apparantly fleeing the Russian aggression by asking Russia for shelter. Meanwhile, the US has plans to shelter a whole 10k of migrants .. how generous!! After all, the US had nothing to do with the toppeling of regimes in those countries that lead to the hell those people are fleeing.

Also, are you trying to say that Russia is supporting the far right/fascist factions in eastern Europe and Ukraine? I think you got a little mixed up with the EU and the US here, lad. Yes, Russia is supporting far right movements in western Europe for it's own purposes, I'm not in favor of that...

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