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Post #1701 by Craig » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:45 am

It acts like a checking account, but it works on the visa payment network. They say eventually you'll be able to use it like a credit card too, but I suspect that will be a bad credit card in terms of benefits.
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Post #1702 by AD » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:38 am

Craig wrote:So I'm looking at the Wealthsimple cash card. It's a prepaid Visa, but it has:

2.4% interest
No ATM fees, including reimbursement for other people's fees
No forex fees
No other fees

It seems too good to be true, obviously better than my current checking account. Someone tell me why it's bad.


In replacement of what?
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Post #1703 by Craig » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:45 am

A checking account.
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Post #1704 by chicpea » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:26 am

chequing account
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Post #1705 by chicpea » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:28 am

Good luck writing cheques with your visa, Crag!
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Post #1706 by PredsFan77 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:43 am

looks like the account doesn't have the canadian form of FDIC insurance but has some kind. Caveat emptor.
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Post #1707 by chicpea » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:09 am

You mean CDIC?
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Post #1708 by chicpea » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:13 am

What is interesting is that (off memory) CDIC insures all Tier I bank accounts up to $100,000 across the board but credit unions have unlimited insurance - at least that was the basic rule until a couple years ago (I believe).

I seem to recall the BC Libs (CPC) did some Credit Union overhaul that stripped this rule but allowed larger Credit Unions such as VanCity to expand extra-provincially for the first time in the history of humankind.

Though I cannot imagine a credit union called VanCity doing very well in Fuckface, Alberta - despite being one hell of an organization. Extremely popular here in BC.
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Post #1709 by AD » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:30 am

Craig wrote:A checking account.


I'm actually legitimately confused.

What's the problem with a normal credit card that you pay st the end of the month, from a chequing account? that this better?
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Post #1710 by chicpea » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:02 pm

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Post #1711 by Craig » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:46 pm

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Craig wrote:A checking account.


I'm actually legitimately confused.

What's the problem with a normal credit card that you pay st the end of the month, from a chequing account? that this better?


I'm confused by your confusion. This doesn't replace the credit card, it replaces the chequing account.
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Post #1712 by PredsFan77 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:21 pm

SoFi and Betterment are doing this shit down here. Higher interest rate, essentially opening what amounts to a brokerage account so it isn't insured by the FDIC/CDIC but some no name regulator that no one has heard of
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Post #1713 by Craig » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:23 pm

Ah, so the catch is if Wealthsimple go away, I might lose my money?
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Post #1714 by Craig » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:24 pm

Still might be worth it to use for the forex when traveling.
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Post #1715 by Craig » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:56 pm

I looked into it, it's CIPF insured up to a million bucks, so I'm not that worried about it.
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Post #1716 by AD » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:33 pm

Craig wrote:
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Craig wrote:A checking account.


I'm actually legitimately confused.

What's the problem with a normal credit card that you pay st the end of the month, from a chequing account? that this better?


I'm confused by your confusion. This doesn't replace the credit card, it replaces the chequing account.


How? Its 2.4% interest in your favour or you have to pay that to use it?
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Post #1717 by Craig » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:38 pm

In your favour. Like you put your money in the account and collect interest on it. Like a bank account.
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Post #1718 by AD » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:44 pm

Oooohh. Like a savings account you can actually use.

Hunh. Interesting.
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Post #1719 by AD » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:45 pm

2.4%?

Sounds too good to be true.
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Post #1720 by PredsFan77 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:15 am

Cause CIPF insurance be some bullshit
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Post #1721 by Craig » Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:12 am

Not really. CIPF is the thing that covers most accounts with investment firms in Canada. It's backed by the collective members (pretty much every investment firm that isn't also a big bank) and beyond that has it's own insurance policy to cover investments.

My retirement savings in the form of my RRSP and TFSA are covered by the CIPF, so adding the balance of my chequing account is no big deal.
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Post #1722 by AD » Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:44 am

Jesus Christ Craig. Thanks.

I should get this. Hell, just putting the equivalent of my credit limit there transferred from my checking account. Means I get 2.4% instead of 0 and no annual fees.

Hunh.
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Post #1723 by Craig » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:33 am

It seems too good to be true, right? Plus you can use any ATM for free and no forex fees when travelling. You also get a baller tungsten bank card which is like, probably awful once you get over the novelty.

There's gotta be a catch.
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Post #1724 by Craig » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:33 am

This feels like the sort of thing Dog should know about. Dog, what's the catch?
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Post #1725 by Craig » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:36 am

A lot of this stuff (The card, the ability to direct deposit, e-transfers, atm fee reimbursement which depends on the card obvs) are coming soon, so I guess there's some wait and see. I opened an account and put a dollar in it for now, just for the heck of it.
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Post #1726 by AD » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:49 am

The tungsten black card is a bitch in the insert the chip machines.

But otherwise yeah. Great for tap.
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Post #1727 by chicpea » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:00 am

Tungsten debit card? I think you guys are in another league from which I was cut 30 years ago.
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Post #1728 by Ricard_Persson » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:33 am

Market crashing. Get your N95 masks.
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Post #1729 by Ricard_Persson » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:43 am

Alpha Pro Tech. I actually remember buying APT stock in I think 2002? Maybe 2003? When was SARS? Actually made money, even though it never felt right. It will be interesting to watch and they are still around years later and still selling masks. What a crazy play. It's probably the only company green right now.

I'm thankfully sitting on 50% cash, but both RCH and LSPD had some small to decent gains and I hit refresh and they're both in the Red.

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Post #1730 by chicpea » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:48 am

Sinclair says hi, Rico.
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Post #1731 by AD » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:51 am

I want to time a re-buy into the market. Have been sitting on some cash for 4 months now and regretting sitting on it.

Ugh.
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Post #1732 by Dog » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:14 pm

Craig wrote:This feels like the sort of thing Dog should know about. Dog, what's the catch?


I’m post-money now, greg.

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Post #1733 by Dog » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:18 pm

I just keep minimal amounts in checking and the balance of cash in high interest savings. Tangerine had me at 2.5% all of last year on their savings. You know they offer special rates if you move your money out? Been doing it for years. Keep it on special offer. Then move money out. Get new special offer. Recently the special offers have come before the previous one expires so that you can just leave the money in. Last year’s offer applied for the whole year. Otherwise, I don’t pay fees on checking (deal with bank) and use a rewards credit card for nearly all purchases that I pay back in full at month’s end.
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Post #1734 by Dog » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:21 pm

The no Fx thing on those cards are naice, but whatever.
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Post #1735 by Ricard_Persson » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:14 pm

I think my buddy uses that Weathsimple bank app. He says it's great. You can move money freely and the 2.4% is nice. He's had no complaints in 6 months of use.


Just bought a shopping cart full of GoodFood. The Corona sale drove it down to where I sold last about $3.20. I'll see how it goes. There was a lot of buying in the last two weeks and large buys which is usually smarter people than me who are probably in the know. Going to roll the dice anyway and hope the overall market doesn't tank. I won't be going back into Shopify unless it really tumbles. Have to let that one cool down. Once I decide to go back into Shopify, I'll sell most of my other stuff and load up for hopefully another 15-20% run that Shop does often. I'd like to see a 20% correction first.

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Post #1736 by Ricard_Persson » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:43 pm

Tesla beat earnings and revenue in their earnings report after the close. Up 12% rigjt now in after hours. Probably fly tomorrow. Its $648 after hours. Could have bought around $350 three months ago. Crazy. Elon is humming.
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Post #1737 by PredsFan77 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:11 pm

fake earnings, uncle rico. be careful.
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Post #1738 by Ricard_Persson » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:08 am

I'm not buying anything right now, well nothing that's been on a great run. Tesla could/should pull back 20% or more. There has always been a short sellers / longs war with TSLA. It's gone straight up like shopify and needs a correction for me to be comfortable buying. I should have bought when it broke through $407 but I cant stomach buying now.

Amazon earnings tonight. I need a big push for my june calls.
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Post #1739 by Ricard_Persson » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:41 am

Overpriced travel mug maker YETI is breaking out.

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It's had trouble with $36.60 last May and again in August. Let's see if it can close higher today. I talked the wife into buying some in her RRSP account last week so I'm in shit if it bounces $36.60 and drops.
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Post #1740 by Ricard_Persson » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:26 pm

It's crazy how crooked earnings are. Amazon pretty flat today and then just at the close goes up $222 ! to $2100 in after hours trading (over 10% like TSLA last night).

Anyway haven't seen the numbers but must be good. Needed it for my $2500 June calls. If she gets to $2500 by June, I'll be taking the month off.
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Post #1742 by Dog » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:37 am

Not a month off from broads, I hope.
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Post #1743 by Ricard_Persson » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:39 pm

On Friday afternoon I bought some Google $1530 options that expire this Friday for $10.10.

Sold them 10 minutes ago for $23.00. I couldn't hold on any longer. They report earnings tonight. I put about $1000 CDN in and cashed out at $2700. The options game has to be more humbling than it is euphoric. I just didn't want to see it drop and played it safe.

If they post big numbers tonight that $1530 option could hit $40 tomorrow. Or if they miss, it could go to $5. I can't imagine the stress people who trade things things on large buys feel.
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Post #1744 by PredsFan77 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:13 pm

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Post #1745 by Ricard_Persson » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:59 pm

Glad I sold. They missed.

I will be honest, I had to leave work before 4 and had a sell order in about an hour prior. Price dropped a bit and never got my sell order filled. I logged back in about 3:45 to cancel my sell as google was really closing strong and wouldnt you know it, my order went through before I could cancel it.

Saved me a bunch. I'll find out tomorrow how bad it could have been if I was able to cancel my sell and hold onto the option.
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Post #1746 by Slick Nick » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:15 am

why is tesla going parabolic?
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Post #1747 by Ricard_Persson » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:30 pm

I don't know, but it was a miss for me not to buy back when it crossed $407. It freaking doubled from then in two months when we looked at it here.

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It could be an unbelievable short if you bought puts. Common sense says it should pull back at some point to $500's, but I don't think common sense is at play.


I read the other day that they think Electric Vehicles will cost less than gassers to make in 5 years....not sure about that. Other numbers were 1 in 3 vehicles sold in 2024 will be Electric. We'll see, seems like a stretch but I do believe gassers will be a thing of the past soon enough.

TSLA has the edge on electric, and one good point I read was don't look at TSLA as a car company. It's like calling Apple a phone company. Telsa has lots of added layers to it. They say each day their cars are mapping more and more roads of the world as they get closer to self driving vehicles. Sounds terrifying myself cruising 100km/h without a steering wheel in my hands, but we'll be there at some point. TSLA has the upper hand on a lot of this battery, and road memory work in vehicles. They have the roof solar too but I lost everything back in 2004 to the solar industry so I still can't say the word out loud, but I do believe solar will be key in the future.

I remember not long ago old car guys were shaking their heads when TSLA had the same market value as Ford, the giant proven automaker of over 100 years. Well TSLA now has more value than Ford, General Motors and Chrysler combined.

I wouldn't touch it here and I think this market will turn down soon and TSLA will lead the charge. We'll look at this weeks run of TSLA on stock charts years from now. It will be that straight up rise on the chart in early 2020, for no reason at all, and we'll look back on and laugh saying I wish I bought some and then sold some.

We need an Elon smilie.
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Post #1748 by Ricard_Persson » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:33 pm

This was December 19th! I thought it was longer. Put this in the hall of fame for the dumbest guy who didn't but at $400. I'm a fool. Elon still scares me.

Ricard_Persson wrote:Here's a great simple look at Tesla at all time highs, finally breaking through $390 that it ran at three different times over three years.

It should run from here if you can stomach Elon.

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Post #1749 by Ricard_Persson » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:39 pm

I'm feeling very cautious as too many dumb people (like me) are making good money in the market. Every thing has been going up 4 days out of 5 for months now. It's going to slow down so I'm trying to stay on top and be careful with some safers ones. I'd like to sit on cash here unless I see a buy and see how that plan goes. I'm in Lightspeed already and it's been up 22% since I got in. I try and trade it in and out.

I think it can move up to $50 here if it can close over $45.55 (top green line that it's bounced off of in past). I'll watch and maybe add some and try to squeeze 10-12% out of a quick run and then get out.

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Post #1750 by Ricard_Persson » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:52 pm

I just checked on my 1 Google $1530 contract that I had yesterday. So I sold it at $23.00 after I bought it at $10 on Friday. It closed at $27.45 yesterday so it did go higher after I sold before the close. Google posts a miss on earning right after the bell last night.

Today, it's worth .55 cents. Crazy. I would have lost $1000 out of pocket that the 1 contract cost me, plus the $1700 gain that I had banked. Options trading must ruin peoples lives. I'm so lucky my sell order got filled before I could cancel it yesterday.

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