Dog wrote:From what I read, police had intervened in that black flag gathering but ultimately released the people there because they could not find the flag.
But even then, lets go on. What do you do with someone with a black flag? Say he's a citizen. You detain him? For how long? You put him on a watch list? They do that, btw. But what does a watch list entail? Some higher "threat" suspects are under constant surveillance. They rank threats. How do you rank a guy in a park with a black flag? If you don't rank threats, how does that affect ressources? You watch all online activity and detain everybody espousing radical rightwing, leftwing or islamist statements? What's the threshold?
When something happens, it's easy to say "they should have known". Take for granted that they get alot of false-positives (people with various radical ideologies signaled that never lead to anything). Stop talking in after the fact selective data -no question they should have stopped the guy that did it, the question is how do you tell the guy that will do it from the guy that won't BEFOREHAND. Know that your standard will apply to all groups (not just muslims).
Go, let us have some objective standards that you would implement that differ from the current standards.
You charge them with incitement of hatred, which means imprisonment or at the least a heavy fine.
I'd say the current British watchlist is pretty ineffective if a known extremist can travel to Libya and come back with no red flags popping up. Are you saying that a situation like that is absolutely normal procedure or simply a mistake?