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Post #401 by Bernie Bernbaum » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:13 pm

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Post #402 by Ernie » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:49 pm

Either the prosecutors didn't know and show themselves to be even more hopelessly inept than we knew, or they did know and the whole grand jury thing was an elaborate whitewash.

Pretty sad that ineptitude is the best case scenario.
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Post #403 by Ernie » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:51 pm

Also crazy that it fell on the Smoking Gun to unearth this, not one of the Very Important News Organizations.
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Post #404 by senate » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:57 pm

Ernie wrote:Also crazy that it fell on the Smoking Gun to unearth this, not one of the Very Important News Organizations.


Considering that revealing the identity of a witness in a grand jury hearing is a crime, no it isn't.
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Post #405 by senate » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:01 pm

Also, very much a shit show by the prosecutor. Either the witness was called by him, even though she was clearly a crazy liar, or the witness was called by the grand jury itself and the prosecutor never revealed to the jury why she was crazy liar.
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Post #409 by Captain Roy Bringus » Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:09 pm

This is going to get nasty. The Police union released this just now.


Starting IMMEDIATELY- At least two units are to respond to EVERY call, no matter the condition or severity, no matter what type of job is pending, or what the opinion of the patrol supervisor happens to be. IN ADDITION: Absolutely NO enforcement action in the form of arrests and or summonses is to be taken unless absolutely necessary and an individual MUST be placed under arrest. These are precautions that were taken in the 1970's when Police Officers were ambushed and executed on a regular basis. The mayors hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a "wartime" police department. We will act accordingly.
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Post #410 by Ernie » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:35 am

Sounds like an improvement.
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Post #411 by Ernie » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:40 am

Yakov Golyadkin wrote:Robs two people of theirs lives. Does significant damage to any chance for police reform. The worst.


As much as I hate what happened, the more this stays in the public consciousness the more that the potential for long term change happens.

You really can't judge things by short term legislation. It's when society changes that the real long term change happens.

Right now the US public is hearing about racial inequality in the modern age. That's a good thing. That's a great thing.

There's always more to be done. The more we understand the human condition, the more true this becomes.

People are basically good rational humans. Long arc of the universe bends toward justice, etc.

Maybe change doesn't happen quick enough. But it does happen. It's an inevitable force that drives humanity. Every generation is better than the one that precedes it. And I look forward to fostering my future children towards being better humans than I am.

PS: I'm wasted and philosophical.
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Post #412 by jester » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:20 am

Ernie wrote:As much as I hate what happened, the more this stays in the public consciousness the more that the potential for long term change happens.

You really can't judge things by short term legislation. It's when society changes that the real long term change happens.

Right now the US public is hearing about racial inequality in the modern age. That's a good thing. That's a great thing.

There's always more to be done. The more we understand the human condition, the more true this becomes.

People are basically good rational humans. Long arc of the universe bends toward justice, etc.

Maybe change doesn't happen quick enough. But it does happen. It's an inevitable force that drives humanity. Every generation is better than the one that precedes it. And I look forward to fostering my future children towards being better humans than I am.

PS: I'm wasted and philosophical.


Weimar Republic Germans think you're a fucking asshole.

Godwin's Law forever!

I generally agree at the macro level, but I think it's important to note that "progress" (however we define that) is not necessarily constant.
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Post #414 by Sturminator » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:08 am

Yeah, I don't think that's fair, k, nor do I see the point in rekindling a twenty year old brush fire.

If we must parse Sullivan's views into a single epithet (a sure sign of intelligent consideration), there are a variety of possibilities, among them: "Don't be afraid of facts" and "Don't act like a reactionary fucktard". History has consigned that book to the dustbin, and rightly so, but it wasn't the histrionics of those who let themselves get race-baited (and who drove the book's sales) that ultimately made its fate inevitable, but rather the facts of the matter, and how that book got them mostly wrong. This was Sullivan's argument from the beginning.
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Post #415 by jester » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:54 am

Yeah, that whole post was a mess. I like Sullivan, but he has massive blind spots (women being another notable one).
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Post #416 by Ernie » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:03 pm

Sullivan would be the first to admit that he has had some pretty huge misses. The whole sob session over TNR is/was pretty hilarious. If that had have happened to any other business in any other industry TNR itself would have been talking about creative destruction or some other bullshit.

That being said, Sullivan is one of the most interesting writers on the web precisely because he does wade into territory that most people avoid. His rather unorthodox background is probably what drives this. As someone with considerable success in civil rights advocacy of his own, I also think it gives him a little more latitude to venture "out there" a bit.

He'll get beaten down for this and will happily post the worst of the criticism on his own blog. It's almost as if he craves intelligent criticism in order to help check his own worldview.
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Post #418 by shredz » Sat May 02, 2015 11:16 am

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Today was a good day getting those cops charged. We'll see if it sticks.


Honest question. Who the hell is this guy? His tweets are provocative to say the least.
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Post #419 by jester » Sat May 02, 2015 11:59 am

susf wrote:Honest question. Who the hell is this guy? His tweets are provocative to say the least.


Douchebag extraordinaire.
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Post #420 by Captain Roy Bringus » Sat May 02, 2015 12:15 pm

susf wrote:Honest question. Who the hell is this guy? His tweets are provocative to say the least.


A neckbeard.
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