dempsey_k wrote:Sometimes I think some intersectional feminists go too far with all the hatin of white dudes. Those thoughts just got buried in some corner with the stats behind Mike Peluso's pro-set rookie card
RTWAP, I can't believe you actually pulled an #alllivesmatter right before pulling an MLK whitewash to wipe your ass with what are essentially MLK's own beliefs
But by all means, DID ANYBODY BOTHER TO THINK OF THE WHITES FEELINGS
You're using nothing but buzzwords and labels. Please provide some actual content in your response next time.
Big#D wrote:but they don't want to be saved by some priviledged white woman. they want to overcome their disadvantages themselves. and they think themselves strong enough to do so.
That is definitely understandable. If they feel like some white feminist is being boorish while ostensibly "supporting" them then by all means, try to get that person to understand how their "support" is perceived. But if it's just non-constructive criticism and victim-status claiming then why bother?
Big#D wrote:Analogy time:
I'm assuming this is something like a person working on a crossword puzzle and then someone else walks in the room, looks over their shoulder and says the answer to 23 down when all the person wanted to do is finish the puzzle by themselves.
Good analogy, but aside from the worst possible examples, the "help" provided by white feminists is more like offering a dictionary to someone complaining about how tough the crossword is. Take it, or don't, but either way it shouldn't generate disrespect or insults in response.
dempsey_k wrote:Nothing anybody says can convince RTWAP that he's billowing white male tears of aggrievement and a supporter of structural sexism and racism. There is no point in discussing it.
You conclude this from no interaction with me whatsoever? You're just being an insulting dick. Either you're doing it for kicks, in which case I really should put you on ignore because life's too short to deal with shits like you. Or you don't know you're completely failing to engage in reasonable and open dialogue, in which case why should I care what you think, and again ignore seems like a good option.
dempsey_k wrote:What you're saying is that people should ignore Laura Bush and Jay Leno's wife campaigning trying to give freedims to Muslim women, or that Sheryl Sandberg reaching a compromise with the boys club so that elite wealthy women can have it good at the expense of all other women should be given a pass, or that Nick Kristof going on midnight raids embedded with police to put prostitutes in prison or deport them against their will mostly so local Police departments can get more tax dollars is cool and should also be given a pass.
Woah. An actual substantive response.
Those all seem like positions and actions that should be criticized. But the original article didn't talk much about that, and in my response I acknowledged that well-intentioned but ignorant people exist and should be informed of their ignorance. If after doing so they still persist then they're making an active choice to ignore those they are "helping". That's not just ignorance at that point.