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Post #501 by Pennywise » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:21 pm

senate wrote:Defeating ISIL is a three point plan for the 2020 election, Shredder.


How do we defeat IS if we are fighting ISIL?
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Post #502 by Craig » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:27 pm

Shredder wrote:
Craig wrote:Yeah, because the acronym is what drives their credibility around the world.


The name matters fuckface. One includes Israel and the greater Levant, the others dont. When POTUS uses ISIL, it matters to many.

It's an actual debate in the media. Especially the use of Daesh. None of it they care about personally. Its stupid when Kerry uses it.

They do prefer to be called IS over the rest however in the media. They keep a close eye on MSM.


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Post #503 by Pennywise » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:31 pm

They don't care..but prefer. If that's what you're laughing at.

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Post #504 by Pennywise » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:36 pm

Now, let me get that forum bruh.
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Post #505 by Pennywise » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:04 pm

yo sturm, how do you feel about ALLAH AKBAR while A-10s go to work? http://beyondthelevant.com/2016/03/25/i ... in-aleppo/
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Post #506 by Sturminator » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:01 am

It depends greatly on what the A-10s are shooting at, and whether or not they hit. I have no special insight into the efficacy of CAS missions in Aleppo, though I can tell you from experience that without close coordination with FOs on the ground (meaning there are SOCOM units in Aleppo, which I think is unlikely), eggs will get broken.

Generally speaking, I have no problem with the idea that some group of Arab-speakers might be moved to shout "Allahu Akbar!" at the sight of violence done by the American military. They've been doing that since the 1940's, and anyway, Arabs shout that particular phrase for a lot of uninteresting reasons. Translated into English, it would have little more practical meaning than "Yay!"

My main objection to classic American urban warfare doctrine is that the military typically treats property damage as either immaterial to their calculations, or even as a positive side-effect of bombing/artillery campaigns. This also goes back to the second world war. While the American military does place a high priority on avoiding civilian casualties and has gotten good at doing so (though in high-volume campaigns, they will always occur), the cavalier attitude taken towards the places civilians actually live inflicts unnecessary suffering on the inhabitants of the cities affected. It's not a good look to wring our hands at shocking pictures of "urbicide" carried out by Assad's forces, and then do the same thing, ourselves. I don't know to what extent we're simply blowing the shit out of the structures which constitute Aleppo, but if we are, yeah...I've got some issues with that.
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Post #507 by Pennywise » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:47 am

Sturminator wrote:It depends greatly on what the A-10s are shooting at, and whether or not they hit. I have no special insight into the efficacy of CAS missions in Aleppo, though I can tell you from experience that without close coordination with FOs on the ground (meaning there are SOCOM units in Aleppo, which I think is unlikely), eggs will get broken.

Generally speaking, I have no problem with the idea that some group of Arab-speakers might be moved to shout "Allahu Akbar!" at the sight of violence done by the American military. They've been doing that since the 1940's, and anyway, Arabs shout that particular phrase for a lot of uninteresting reasons. Translated into English, it would have little more practical meaning than "Yay!"

My main objection to classic American urban warfare doctrine is that the military typically treats property damage as either immaterial to their calculations, or even as a positive side-effect of bombing/artillery campaigns. This also goes back to the second world war. While the American military does place a high priority on avoiding civilian casualties and has gotten good at doing so (though in high-volume campaigns, they will always occur), the cavalier attitude taken towards the places civilians actually live inflicts unnecessary suffering on the inhabitants of the cities affected. It's not a good look to wring our hands at shocking pictures of "urbicide" carried out by Assad's forces, and then do the same thing, ourselves. I don't know to what extent we're simply blowing the shit out of the structures which constitute Aleppo, but if we are, yeah...I've got some issues with that.


The optics alone are somewhat dangerous. While we flew above Amerli, AAH, Kataib Hezbollah, and IRGC/Quds were beheading people on the ground.
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Post #510 by TGR » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:14 am

Apparently over an ex-wife.

Move along. Nothing to see here.

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Post #511 by Pennywise » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:53 am

This Oil Rally Is Built On Fed Paper, Not Saudi Sand Or Shale Slack - http://seekingalpha.com/article/3961643 ... hale-slack
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Post #514 by Pennywise » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:18 pm

He's a fat clown. Could only imagine what type of hookers and shit he buys.
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Post #516 by Pennywise » Mon May 23, 2016 10:37 am

I predict ISIL's last stand is here. Fallujah, Raqqa, Mosul.
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Post #517 by Pennywise » Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:25 am

Not Shredder wrote:I predict ISIL's last stand is here. Fallujah, Raqqa, Mosul.


Manbej pocket closing up. Fallujah lost. Mosul being eyed. Caliphate is in serious trouble. Loss of Sirte hurts too. BUT WE NEED TROOPS ON THE GROUND. 20,000 at least.
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Post #518 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:36 am

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Post #519 by Pennywise » Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:54 am

With the Iranian Shi'a Caliphate thriving, I find it difficult to believe with any sincerity that the Gulf States, Turkey, and elements of the west cease to desist their fund a Sunni Loony (an interesting twist Max Abrams approves of) campaign to push back said Iranian expansionism which is now openly spearheaded by Qassem Soleimani. Bahrain looks to be next in sight of Khameini and company.

A dangerous move that truly horrifies Arab tyrants. A Persian-Arab war is on the horizon. As is a Kurdish-Shia conflict which is beginning to sprout in northwest Iran as Rojava is Rising. Sykes-Picot's earthly corpses are rattling in the grave. We have to finish of IS, begin the process of pushing back Iran, or at least, halting them. If they move into Saudi heartland even more (I dont think Yemen has a large Iranian presence) all bets are off.
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Post #520 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:04 pm

Why dont we just let the Sauds get whats been coming to them?
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Post #521 by Pennywise » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:08 pm

PredsFan77 wrote:Why dont we just let the Sauds get whats been coming to them?


It will fuck up our economy when its already fragile. Im all for the angry kid to kill his violent step dad but we need better energy alternatives. We have to be prepared to take a hit if we let the region break loose.
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Post #522 by Pennywise » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:09 pm

Not Shredder wrote:
PredsFan77 wrote:Why dont we just let the Sauds get whats been coming to them?


It will fuck up our economy when its already fragile. Im all for the angry kid to kill his violent step dad but we need better energy alternatives. We have to be prepared to take a hit if we let the region break loose.


or we just make a pact with al Baghdadi or tell 'em well protect the oil our self with special forces from a coalition.
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Post #523 by PredsFan77 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:42 pm

NEWS CYCLE CHANGE ALERT: Istanbul airport just got bombed. S
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Post #524 by Retarder S » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:58 pm

JUST WAIT ONE MORE DECADE TO HAVE ENOUGH AMMO TO NUKE IT
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Post #525 by Slick Nick » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:11 pm

I was there a month ago... there was so much security checks. Guess not enough. sigh.
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Post #526 by Retarder S » Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:13 pm

--Another video shows a man falling to the floor in the terminal, apparently after being shot by a law enforcement officer. The man drops his assault rifle, which skitters across the floor. The officer appears to shoot a second time and runs. A flash covers the video, apparently caused by the fallen man detonating a bomb.


-- A Turkish official told CNN that police fired shots at suspects near the international terminal in an effort to neutralize them.



Hopefully the right pounces on this one and we might get a great 2 days of entertainment :danson:
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Post #527 by Pennywise » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:30 am

You gotta see Max Abrams tweets. Gold.
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Post #528 by PredsFan77 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:08 pm

so this is pretty horrible to read, but I am a sadist:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/ ... on-doctors
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Post #529 by Pennywise » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:29 pm

What does Broads think of these 28 pages?
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Post #530 by Pennywise » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:12 pm

The legal foundations of the Islamic State

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Post #531 by Pennywise » Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:19 pm

https://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/the-enduring-influence-of-anwar-al-awlaki-in-the-age-of-the-islamic-state

THE ENDURING INFLUENCE OF ANWAR AL-AWLAKI IN THE AGE OF THE ISLAMIC STATE
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Post #532 by PredsFan77 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:43 pm

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Post #533 by Pennywise » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:25 pm

No such thing as al-Qaeda in Syria anymore.
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Post #534 by PredsFan77 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:17 pm

oh ok
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Post #536 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:31 am

Panetta is a shitbag like the rest of them. Career politician that helicoptered in to be D/CIA and SecDef.
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Post #537 by Pennywise » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:37 am

I hate him. Another civilian who wants to war monger when hes never served our country in battle.
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Post #538 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:51 pm

REPORTS OF A SECOND COUP ATTEMPT!
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Post #539 by Retarder S » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:06 pm

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Post #540 by chiclet » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:37 pm

PredsFan77 wrote:REPORTS OF A SECOND COUP ATTEMPT!


What is happening, predo?
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Post #541 by PredsFan77 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:49 pm

they just shut down the US airbase due to intelligence reports.
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Post #544 by Dog » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:16 am

Can't you guys like topple him for reals?

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Post #545 by Pennywise » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:13 am

loooooooool

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Post #546 by AD » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:56 pm

Al Jolani loyal to Amreeka?
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Post #547 by Pennywise » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:10 pm

It's from IS supporters. Calling Joulani an agent of Amerikka.



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Post #548 by PredsFan77 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:46 pm

wasnt he the mayor of nyc
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Post #549 by Pennywise » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:32 pm

Phillip Smyth vs Max Abrams was a thing today.
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Post #550 by Pennywise » Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:51 pm

Lol best thread





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