You're an incumbent PM in an election year, JT. Show some goddamn backbone.

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Post #4251 by Boring Choice #2 » Tue May 21, 2019 10:06 am

mayoradamwest wrote:Doug Ford wants to claim bankruptcy for the province?

nah, he is saying that the province is bankrupt already and that he wants to bring it back from it by slashing and burning.
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Post #4252 by mayoradamwest » Tue May 21, 2019 11:16 am

Oh... uh.. better?


Man, he is dumb
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Post #4253 by Craig » Tue May 21, 2019 12:23 pm

Ontario falls for this every 25 years or so. Takes that long to forget how disastrous it is, I guess.
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Post #4254 by chicpea » Tue May 21, 2019 1:13 pm

Christ even I remember Mike Harris and I’m on the West Coast.
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Post #4255 by Boring Choice #2 » Tue May 21, 2019 1:48 pm

I look forward to the inevitable Ernie Eves budget, where instead of cutting expenditures or raising taxes to balance the budget, you proclaim victory by selling off crown assets and then tut tutting the opposition when they can't replicate the fee because you sold off a profitable entity for less than it was worth.
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Post #4256 by Dog » Tue May 21, 2019 2:53 pm

You guys voted for Doug freaking Ford. You deserve what you are getting.

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Post #4257 by Dog » Tue May 21, 2019 2:54 pm

Our right wing idiots won’t let you wear funny hats on your heads, but at least they are indistinguishable from the liberals on the economy.
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Post #4258 by Boring Choice #2 » Tue May 21, 2019 3:12 pm

major cities went ndp or liberal. so did the north. it's really rural ontario and the psycho joes (toronto suburbs) fault

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Post #4259 by MP » Tue May 21, 2019 3:18 pm

Lol, at strong NDP being brown...also that is the 2014 map with Wynne winning.
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Post #4261 by Boring Choice #2 » Tue May 21, 2019 3:34 pm

oops. same thing though. cities are orange and red with a couple exceptions. rural and joes are blue.
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Post #4262 by Dog » Tue May 21, 2019 4:48 pm

Damn you, mcphees and joes!
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Post #4263 by Dog » Tue May 21, 2019 4:49 pm

Grelph is green. Lovely.
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Post #4264 by Zardoz » Tue May 21, 2019 8:07 pm

Haaaaamilton is woooonderfull!
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Post #4265 by mayoradamwest » Tue May 21, 2019 8:19 pm

But Kathleen wynne had plants with gas...
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Post #4266 by mayoradamwest » Fri May 24, 2019 8:43 am

Doug Ford now less popular than Kathleen Wynne
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Post #4267 by MP » Fri May 24, 2019 1:41 pm

I voted green, cause I could stomach Ford or Wynne. I still can't believe the Liberals let her run as leader in the last election.
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Post #4268 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri May 24, 2019 2:07 pm

as opposed to voting for an actual person running in your riding?
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Post #4269 by Dog » Fri May 24, 2019 2:16 pm

Big D doesn’t believe green party candidates qualify as persons. Quelle surprise.
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Post #4270 by AD » Fri May 24, 2019 2:42 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:as opposed to voting for an actual person running in your riding?


You mean, an actual person who doesn't blindly follow a stupid party's line.. whatever that is.

Yeah.

How's the weather where you are, back in 1885 D?
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Post #4271 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri May 24, 2019 2:52 pm

Dog wrote:Big D doesn’t believe green party candidates qualify as persons. Quelle surprise.


no, i believe that the green party candidate might be the best candidate. i just don't believe in not voting for said candidate because elizabeth may has a goofy smile that i don't want to look at or because of something else irrelevant.
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Post #4272 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri May 24, 2019 2:52 pm

AD wrote:
Boring Choice #2 wrote:as opposed to voting for an actual person running in your riding?


You mean, an actual person who doesn't blindly follow a stupid party's line.. whatever that is.

Yeah.

How's the weather where you are, back in 1885 D?


cold. i look forward to global warming.
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Post #4274 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Fri May 24, 2019 3:14 pm

If you fellas were voters I could count on you'd tear your ballot in half while locking eyes with the stupid old cunt that just handed it to you.
Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Post #4275 by clawfirst » Fri May 24, 2019 4:23 pm

I usually spoil a ballot or write in Wendle Clark but i actually tried to block dofo
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Post #4276 by Germz » Fri May 24, 2019 5:10 pm

Said it before, I'll say it again. Patrick Brown screwed Ontario big time by turning out to be a disgusting lying cheating mess of a candidate. Could have had a stomachable moderate PC government and instead we ended up with literally the most petty and vindictive scumbag in Ontario in the premier's office.
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Post #4277 by mayoradamwest » Fri May 24, 2019 5:42 pm

Germz wrote:Said it before, I'll say it again. Patrick Brown screwed Ontario big time by turning out to be a disgusting lying cheating mess of a candidate. Could have had a stomachable moderate PC government and instead we ended up with literally the most petty and vindictive scumbag in Ontario in the premier's office.


Patrick Brown was a terrible candidate. John Tory is the one to blame, for suggesting we fund religious schools of all denominations.
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Post #4278 by mayoradamwest » Fri May 24, 2019 5:43 pm

Oh wait, Tory was also a terrible candidate
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Post #4279 by MP » Fri May 24, 2019 11:46 pm

Germz wrote:Said it before, I'll say it again. Patrick Brown screwed Ontario big time by turning out to be a disgusting lying cheating mess of a candidate. Could have had a stomachable moderate PC government and instead we ended up with literally the most petty and vindictive scumbag in Ontario in the premier's office.

Are there really any other types?!
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Post #4280 by Germz » Sat May 25, 2019 4:36 pm

While I don't love defending the political class, we can't give in completely to such cynicism, MP. In this day and age it's just too dangerous. Brown was a sexual harasser whose people got caught red-handed stuffing ballot boxes in several nomination races. Ford was elected with literally no platform and, once elected, overtly started using executive power to attack long-standing democratic institutions. We may not find a politician we love, but there are degrees of shittiness.
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Post #4281 by chicpea » Sat May 25, 2019 5:44 pm

Meanwhile in BC....

The NDP have delivered two years of promises kept, solid, popular government, and no cabinet shuffles.
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Post #4282 by Germz » Sat May 25, 2019 6:21 pm

Things aren't all bad in Ontario. The presto card system seems pretty great.
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Post #4283 by Boring Choice #2 » Sat May 25, 2019 7:22 pm

That is not Ontario. That is two major urban areas.
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Post #4284 by chicpea » Sat May 25, 2019 7:55 pm

Presto! All the rural meth heads disappear!

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Post #4285 by Dr_Chimera » Sat May 25, 2019 10:05 pm



Gotta love that logic.
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Post #4286 by Germz » Sat May 25, 2019 10:11 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:That is not Ontario. That is two major urban areas.


Some people just gotta pooh pooh everything eh. It serves more than half the population and includes almost every population centre that is dense enough to have substantial public transit needs.

Poor old London though. And poor gkw.
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Post #4287 by Craig » Sat May 25, 2019 10:46 pm

I mean D is nuts, but it's also objectively bad. Not like, bad compared to what we had before, but bad compared to all the other options.
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Post #4288 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Sun May 26, 2019 3:36 am

Sonny Corleone getting shot.gif on repeat until the end of time. :smuglanne:
Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Post #4289 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun May 26, 2019 8:42 am

Don't get me wrong. I don't care about public transit and who it serves. It's easily expanded to other transit systems if they want to.

My issue is the thinking that the two biggest regions of the province are the province, even if they serve half the population.

It's less that Germz may think it, but the government. Ford really only cares about Toronto, and runs his government as though he is the mayor of Toronto and not the premier of the whole province.

I'd like to think that it's just Ford, but most of the last few premiers have acted similarly.... what benefits Toronto is more important than what is good for the province as a whole.
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Post #4290 by Craig » Sun May 26, 2019 8:55 am

D, I say this with love, but that is a total pile of horseshit.
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Post #4291 by PPJ » Sun May 26, 2019 9:28 am

D is a Dennis Miller conservative who just hasn’t come out of the closet yet.
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Post #4292 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 am

I'm a fiscal conservative and social liberal / libertarian. Mostly, I don't give a shit what people do as long as the rules are consistent, and it doesn't cost me money to pay for it.

I see the point of government as providing universal benefits to society (e.g. health care, education, security) and to help those in society who can't help themselves (e.g. people with disabilities, mental issues, etc.), but otherwise to mind their own fucking business.
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Post #4293 by Germz » Sun May 26, 2019 1:02 pm

Gotta say, I thought my tongue in cheek comment about presto cards was pretty innocuous.

Anyway, Ford hates Toronto. He's a 905 man who has cashed in politically on anti Toronto sentiment, which has currency both within the GTA and throughout the province.
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Post #4294 by clawfirst » Sun May 26, 2019 1:16 pm

Hes an etobicoke guy. Not even 905. The fuck you im old and got mine crowd fucked us again
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Post #4295 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun May 26, 2019 1:20 pm

When I say Toronto, I am talking about everything in the 416 and the 905. Hell, it even extends into Barrie at this point. Ford just wants the downtown liberals to be more like his core suburban supporters. But he can't help himself to try controlling what goes on with the city.
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Post #4296 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun May 26, 2019 1:33 pm

Germz wrote:Gotta say, I thought my tongue in cheek comment about presto cards was pretty innocuous.

Anyway, Ford hates Toronto. He's a 905 man who has cashed in politically on anti Toronto sentiment, which has currency both within the GTA and throughout the province.


Also, don't get me wrong, I don't really have an issue with presto cards or public transit. It was more that they are a microcosm of how the Province works in a piecemeal way, usually focusing on Toronto instead of working for the whole province in the same way.

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