You're an incumbent PM in an election year, JT. Show some goddamn backbone.

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Post #4301 by Craig » Sun May 26, 2019 3:36 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:If they want to do it pan provincially, they would have brought all the municipal transit authorities on board. It's great if it ends up expanding provincially eventually, but let's not pretend it wasn't focus on Toronto first and then Ottawa, and whatever happens later is meh.


It didn't start in Toronto though, it started in the general commuter network in the Golden horseshoe. It was actually forced on Toronto against its wishes.
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Post #4302 by TittiesNBeer » Sun May 26, 2019 3:42 pm

If youre calling "toronto" basically everything up to and including barrie...

Then you should go the same distance and include kitchener... hamilton... oshawa... etc.

Then we are saying hey... the provincial government caters to the region wilth what 70% of the population
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Post #4303 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun May 26, 2019 3:50 pm

People in kitchener don't commute to Toronto. Hamilton and Oshawa are Toronto.
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Post #4304 by TittiesNBeer » Sun May 26, 2019 4:08 pm

If youve driven the 401 from kitchener to toronto in the morning (or vice versa at 500pm) youd disagree
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Post #4305 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:24 pm

Craig wrote:
Boring Choice #2 wrote:If they want to do it pan provincially, they would have brought all the municipal transit authorities on board. It's great if it ends up expanding provincially eventually, but let's not pretend it wasn't focus on Toronto first and then Ottawa, and whatever happens later is meh.


It didn't start in Toronto though, it started in the general commuter network in the Golden horseshoe. It was actually forced on Toronto against its wishes.


You are making all my arguments for me.

I talked about the provincial government (not just this one, but especially this one) being obsessed with running the city and the premier acting as if he wants to be the mayor, and you use Metrolinx as an example, where the province essentially said that the city was not capable of running the TTC (they are not wrong).

I talked about the provincial government needing to represent all the people of the province, and not just its most populous regions, and you talk about a transportation network being pan provincial and not doing it piecemeal, despite the mission of the network being to serve just those most populous regions, and the fact that they have done it exactly in a piecemeal manner.

I get that it is easier to just focus on the Toronto region, and to a lesser extent Ottawa, but that is not the mandate of the province.

I'm not complaining because I think London is underserved. I think things are fine here. The problem is that the bigger regions are overserved to the detriment of the smaller regions, and sometimes vice versa.
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Post #4306 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:25 pm

TittiesNBeer wrote:If youve driven the 401 from kitchener to toronto in the morning (or vice versa at 500pm) youd disagree

I drive it all the time. KWC/G aren't that far from being part of the GTA. Give it 10 or 15 years.
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Post #4307 by Craig » Sun May 26, 2019 5:39 pm

D, you're so far out in left field on this one. The province has pretty much always disproportionately served smaller regions. But even ignoring that, Metrolinx is all about serving the communities around Toronto and not at all about serving the city.
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Post #4308 by Craig » Sun May 26, 2019 5:41 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:
TittiesNBeer wrote:If youve driven the 401 from kitchener to toronto in the morning (or vice versa at 500pm) youd disagree

I drive it all the time. KWC/G aren't that far from being part of the GTA. Give it 10 or 15 years.


They also all have the go and Presto.

If your argument is that the province invests more in mass transit in populated areas....no shit. That's the only thing that makes any sense. Per capita they spend way, way more outside of the cities.
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Post #4309 by Germz » Sun May 26, 2019 5:42 pm

Frankly it makes sense that a province wide plan for public transit integration would begin with the transit systems that serve the largest number of people and that need the most integration because of the commuting needs of their ridership.

I get what you're saying about the GTA in general, D, but this seems like the wrong hill to die on.
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Post #4310 by Craig » Sun May 26, 2019 5:47 pm

Germz wrote:Frankly it makes sense that a province wide plan for public transit integration would begin with the transit systems that serve the largest number of people and that need the most integration because of the commuting needs of their ridership.

I get what you're saying about the GTA in general, D, but this seems like the wrong hill to die on.


Explain it to me then, because I don't get it at all. The province doesn't even pay for the highways if they go inside the city for some reason.
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Post #4311 by Germz » Sun May 26, 2019 6:09 pm

The rest of the province looks at Toronto the way the districts of Panem look at the Capitol.
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Post #4312 by Boring Choice #2 » Sun May 26, 2019 7:47 pm

London is the all white, office worker district.
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Post #4313 by mayoradamwest » Sun May 26, 2019 7:57 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:London is the all white, office worker district.


London wants to be the all white office district... it is kind of an issue.
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Post #4314 by clawfirst » Sun May 26, 2019 8:16 pm

Lol
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Post #4315 by Dog » Mon May 27, 2019 7:52 am

Is D complaining about the census again?
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Post #4316 by Boring Choice #2 » Mon May 27, 2019 8:28 am

i only complain about the census when it is relevant, dog. it's not relevant right now. and they wouldn't need a census in today's connected world if they did things right.
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Post #4317 by Dog » Mon May 27, 2019 8:43 am

Google is not allowed to share all that information with the government.

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Post #4318 by mayoradamwest » Mon May 27, 2019 10:26 am

Udoug Ford cancels some cuts? What?
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Post #4319 by mayoradamwest » Tue May 28, 2019 8:55 am

Let's spend billions getting rid of the beer store 8)
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Post #4320 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Tue May 28, 2019 10:26 am

Big ups to the Liberal MPs floating an election campaign around a soda tax.
Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Post #4321 by Dr_Chimera » Tue May 28, 2019 5:36 pm

"Brainwasher" is a word?

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Post #4323 by mayoradamwest » Tue May 28, 2019 6:31 pm

What is Bernier's old biker girl up to these days?
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Post #4324 by Dog » Tue May 28, 2019 7:14 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:"Brainwasher" is a word?


In french, yes.
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Post #4325 by mcphee » Tue May 28, 2019 7:36 pm

Dog wrote:
Dr_Chimera wrote:"Brainwasher" is a word?


In french, yes.
une crisses de brainwasher, use it all the time.
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Post #4326 by mayoradamwest » Tue May 28, 2019 7:42 pm

Chalice, tabernacle.
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Post #4327 by chicpea » Tue May 28, 2019 8:06 pm

Dog wrote:
Dr_Chimera wrote:"Brainwasher" is a word?


In french, yes.


In English too. And it’s used as verb just as Max has used it there in French. “They want to control our press and social media, force their opinions, and brainwash our children.”

Jesus Murphy, doctor, aren’t you a tri-lingual?
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Post #4328 by senate » Tue May 28, 2019 8:09 pm

Dog wrote:
Dr_Chimera wrote:"Brainwasher" is a word?


In french, yes.


So now we are elevating the guttural noises and scribbles of other languages to the status of "words"? Just more virtue signaling by the SJWs running this once great hockey forum into the ground.
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Post #4329 by Dr_Chimera » Tue May 28, 2019 8:20 pm

French is canceled.
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Post #4330 by Dog » Tue May 28, 2019 9:31 pm

M’a vous brainwasher solide toute la gang, calvaire.
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Post #4331 by Dog » Tue May 28, 2019 9:32 pm

Rolls off the tongue (and keyboard -well telephone screen, at least).
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Post #4332 by mayoradamwest » Fri May 31, 2019 9:21 am

Micheal Cooper launches his candidacy for biggest douche of an MP by.... attacking anyone who thought there were conservative undertones to the racist NZ shooting.

Not sure why
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Post #4333 by chicpea » Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:49 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:French is canceled.


What if all along French people were trying to tell us something?
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Post #4334 by PPJ » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:51 pm

mayoradamwest wrote:Micheal Cooper launches his candidacy for biggest douche of an MP by.... attacking anyone who thought there were conservative undertones to the racist NZ shooting.

Not sure why


Got to admire his joseph goebbels stylin.
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Post #4335 by mayoradamwest » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:36 am

Ford to stay off until after the federal election
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Post #4336 by mayoradamwest » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:26 pm

The way the shooting was handled really was impressive. Caplin took the stage and calmned things in a truly impressive way,

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