RIP Sun News

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Post #1 by Dog » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:11 pm

Now if we could only get rid of TVA.
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Post #2 by PPJ » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:26 pm

LOL!
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Post #3 by Walrus » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:34 pm

Only the good die young. :(
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Post #4 by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:35 pm

No more Steve Simmons??
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We goin' to the dance, people!!!!
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Post #5 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:01 am

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Post #6 by PPJ » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:46 am

Hopefully Ezra goes back to publishing Muhammed cartoons.
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Post #7 by NyQuil » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:27 pm

Dark Man II: The Return of Levant.
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Post #8 by IcE ColD » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:01 pm

Do we really wish them to rest in peace??
This whole idea that we are even important is a fucking illusion. We’re just an accident left to our own devices.

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Post #9 by Ernie » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:18 pm

I wonder who's going to cover Levant's annual defamation legal costs now.
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Post #10 by Germz » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:40 pm

All you people gloating while 150 people lost their jobs. Shameful.
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Post #11 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:04 pm

Their twitter just got taken down.
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Post #12 by zamboner » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:14 pm

Remember when they launched the Ford Nation show? A series premiere and finale in one episode.
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Post #13 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:23 pm

We had good times.

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Post #14 by senate » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:18 pm

The last 5 minutes of Sun News TV. They do nothing to acknowledge it. The last thing shown, other than the station's logo, is a commercial for one of their shows.

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Post #15 by NyQuil » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:38 pm

Germz wrote:All you people gloating while 150 people lost their jobs. Shameful.


I'm sure the trickle-down economics they espouse will take care of them.
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Post #16 by Ernie » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:44 pm

Yeah, talk about dying by sword you lived by.

No tears from me.
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Post #17 by Murphy » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:48 pm

I find it fucking rich that Jon Kay is saying that you shouldn't have Schadenfreude about them losing their jobs because those are fellow journalists who are losing their jobs.
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Post #18 by NyQuil » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:49 pm

Murphy wrote:I find it fucking rich that Jon Kay is saying that you shouldn't have Schadenfreude about them losing their jobs because those are fellow journalists who are losing their jobs.


That's like saying we should pity ISIS fatalities because they're combatants just like our own Canadian Forces.
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Post #19 by PPJ » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:36 pm

NyQuil wrote:That's like saying we should pity ISIS fatalities because they're combatants just like our own Canadian Forces.


Is comparing something to ISIS becoming the new Godwins Law? Perhaps we should call it Allahwin's Law?
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Post #20 by Walrus » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:32 pm

"Sun News Network went off the air today, so Ezra Levant will spend day yelling into mirror. Fortunately viewer numbers will not be affected."

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Post #21 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:29 am

senate wrote:The last 5 minutes of Sun News TV. They do nothing to acknowledge it. The last thing shown, other than the station's logo, is a commercial for one of their shows.

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I see they stuck it to some black people - a fitting way to go out.
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Post #22 by Transplanted Caper » Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:32 pm

http://www.therebel.media/

Sure are a lot of white people out to see Ezra.
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Post #23 by Transplanted Caper » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:31 pm

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Now with video. Bless you, Ezra.
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Post #24 by Germz » Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:15 pm

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/john-doyle-the-end-of-sun-news-is-both-national-tragedy-and-farce/article23013075/

John Doyle: The end of Sun News is both national tragedy and farce

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The Sun News fail is both a national tragedy and a farce.

The mere existence of Sun News was met with outrage from the start. A very Canadian kind of outrage. High dudgeon about “Fox News North” bringing right-wing ranting to Canada. Bless my soul, the True North strong and free could not possibly withstand this assault. As if we didn’t know how to watch TV with a skeptical eye and laugh at absurdity. As if we didn’t know from watching The Daily Show that you can laugh at Fox News. As if we didn’t already have Don Cherry and Kevin O’Leary. As if we didn’t already have the sort of people like the man who wrote to me, not long before Sun News launched, addressing the letter to “John Doyle, Scrotum of the Globe and Mail.”

We don’t do blunt in Canada. We do tut-tutting. We’re delusional about our media and smug about how broad-minded we are. We’re not broad-minded, often. We’re intolerant of bluntly expressed opinions and attitudes. For heaven’s sake, we’ve allowed Tim Hortons to commandeer our national self-image.

There are many things to admire about the United States and one of its admirable qualities is the vigour and strength of its media and political debate. When those who petitioned against the launch of Sun News did their complaining and wailing, that’s what they were afraid of – the arrival of the pith and vinegar of loud, finger-pointing, vigorous debate. I suspect that many who loathed Sun News and now cheer its demise feel that we should have laws against obnoxiousness.

The tragedy is the loss of a counterpoint to the existing media establishment. The loss of obnoxious voices, from that of Ezra Levant to Brian Lilley’s comic obsession with the CBC. The tragedy is that a national channel expressing blunt views is now silenced. The tragedy is that there is less challenge to our smugness.

The farce is that Sun News was never very good at doing what it set out to do. It was boring TV. Mostly, it was cheap, cheesy, terrible television. You could learn a great deal about the utter banality of well-meant but badly executed TV by watching it. Sun News tended to have terrible timing, too. One night shortly after it launched, during the 2011 federal election campaign, I turned it on and the first thing I saw was Ezra Levant waving around a giant cigar and making a speech about Cuba. Odd, I thought. There’s an election on here. Not in Cuba, obviously. But Levant was anxious to let us know his views on events in Cuba. It was Cuba this and Castro that, interminably. Levant had written a long, long analysis of matters Cuban and was talking it at us.

There is a double farce, one supposes, in the noise that Levant and his fellow Sun News ranters made. Boy, they were loud, but viewing numbers never reflected an actual interest of any intensity in the anti-this and anti-that rants. We should note that as we move on. We live under a government that, you know, would often have us believe that a lot of the views expressed on Sun News are consensus views. My posterior.

Finally, back to the tragedy element. Sun News was a nice outfit to deal with. Boss Kory Teneycke was always open, honest, generous with his time and anxious to talk about television. I once accepted an invitation to appear on Sun News (there were many invitations) and I was greeted by a gaggle of cheerful, warm and gracious people. Sara MacIntyre, whom I had described in this column as “all gum-chewing, hair-swinging, finger-wagging, mall-rat malice and attitude” went out of her way to greet me and we had a lovely chat. I liked her grace and humour.

I’ve been on CBC-TV and Radio many times. Different experience. Often rudeness and boorishness.
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Post #25 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:57 pm

The Beaverton was always terrible, but that article is a new low.

EDIT: :stare:
Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Post #26 by NyQuil » Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:35 am

Psycho Papa Joe wrote:Is comparing something to ISIS becoming the new Godwins Law? Perhaps we should call it Allahwin's Law?


I had a Contra joke all set up but I wanted to be more topical.
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Post #27 by AD » Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:40 am

Yes. Yes you are.
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Post #28 by Dog » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:08 am

Blunt isn't a virtue in of itself. Stupid blunt is still just stupid. No added value to it. Negative value to stupid blunt with an agenda.

I'm disapointed in you Tom.
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Post #29 by MP » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:16 am

Dog wrote:Blunt isn't a virtue in of itself. Stupid blunt is still just stupid. No added value to it. Negative value to stupid blunt with an agenda.

I'm disapointed in you Tom.


Look at the dog tut-tutting...

But I, agree. I have no problem with differing points of view, but lowest common denomiator pot stirring from low brow hosts is not something that is beneficial to anyone.
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Post #30 by Dog » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:19 am

Thomas Malthus wrote:Notice that I said "pretty near the mark" and not "right on the money".

I don't care that Sun News is gone, I'm not mourning it. It was awful television and provided no entertainment. But I do sort of think that it would be difficult to create a Sun News 2.0 type experience that was entertaining and well received by Canadians because of some of these characteristics and attitudes of many Canadians. I think I've lamented in the canpoli thread about the lack of discussions this country has about issues that should be talked about. Issues that should be having a lively debate like euthanasia, abortion, or prostitution all fall flat in this country and have only generated discussion because of the SCOC.


Maybe it doesn't generate much discussion because most are generally fine with it?

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Post #31 by Dog » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:20 am

Keep in mind, I live in Quebec, not Canada. People in Quebec bitch about everything as a national sport.
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Post #32 by NyQuil » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:20 am

The problem with blunt opinions is that solutions to most issues in society are much more complex than can be captured via blunt opinion.
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Post #33 by MP » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:24 am

Sun TV v. 2.0 would have to be more objective in their reporting, and focus on being critical of the governing party as not being 'right' enough, and much less on partisan attacks on the opposition/third party.

Nobody wants a 24h cpc election commercial.
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Post #34 by Germz » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:07 pm

Yeah, although I posted the article, and considered it because I enjoy self-criticism, ultimately I don't agree with it because the lively public discourse here in the USA that Doyle wishes we had in Canada is rarely much more than people shouting 'death panel' and 'white privilege' over each other, and 24 hr news stations fully dedicated to validating and exacerbating existing prejudices.

We have alternative media in Canada, John. It's called the internet.
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Post #35 by Dog » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:11 pm

Yeah, John. We have Broads.

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Post #36 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:32 pm

Germz wrote:Yeah, although I posted the article, and considered it because I enjoy self-criticism, ultimately I don't agree with it because the lively public discourse here in the USA that Doyle wishes we had in Canada is rarely much more than people shouting 'death panel' and 'white privilege' over each other, and 24 hr news stations fully dedicated to validating and exacerbating existing prejudices.

We have alternative media in Canada, John. It's called the internet.


And quite a bit of conservatism on the radio.

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