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Post #1 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:52 am

Merge into zènéke's random crap fred, fellas.
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Post #2 by IcE ColD » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:00 am

At this point, as sad as it may sound, we might need a generic plane crash thread.

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Post #3 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:30 am

What's with all the suicidal pilots lately?

By all, I mean two.
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Post #4 by Twitter bArt » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:32 am

radicalization of pilots has to be a growing concern
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Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."

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Post #5 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:37 am

Artie wrote:radicalization of pilots has to be a growing concern


I think we need to arm passengers to take out suicidal pilots before they kill everybody.
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Post #6 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:40 am

By the by, what kind of special asshole must you be to take out 150 people with you, including loads of kids.

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Post #7 by Twitter bArt » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:55 am

Dog wrote:By the by, what kind of special asshole must you be to take out 150 people with you, including loads of kids.

:why:


have you not been watching the news the last few years
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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #8 by Craig » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:21 am

IcE ColD wrote:At this point, as sad as it may sound, we might need a generic plane crash thread.

:bbf:


Meh, I think it's more a matter of it catching on in the news than accidents actually being up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_accidents_and_incidents
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Post #9 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:51 am

Pilots must henceforth be fitted with colostomy bags.
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Post #10 by Twitter bArt » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:53 am

IcE ColD wrote:At this point, as sad as it may sound, we might need a generic plane crash thread.

:bbf:


Craig wrote:Meh, I think it's more a matter of it catching on in the news than accidents actually being up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_accidents_and_incidents


this was no accident
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #11 by RTWAP » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:05 am

Craig wrote:Meh, I think it's more a matter of it catching on in the news than accidents actually being up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_accidents_and_incidents


Don't they usually identify the causes for most crashes? I can't recall deliberate pilot "error" occurring before the recent ones.
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Post #12 by PredsFan77 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:09 am

Thomas Malthus wrote:Just thinking about it makes me sick. I can't imagine what must have been going through the chief pilot's head when he got back from the shitter to find the cockpit locked.


Captain. Not chief pilot. Chief pilots sit in big fancy offices at headquarters.
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Post #13 by RTWAP » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:09 am

I wonder if the airlines will start doing more psych profiling of their pilots. I'd hope that the level of asshole to kill 150 people would show up on a rigourous profile. Also check for suicidal tendencies. And for demeaning behaviour by co-workers that might act as triggers. Pilots, especially old-school pilots, can be assholes to the individuals around them.
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Post #14 by Twitter bArt » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:12 am

RTWAP wrote:I wonder if the airlines will start doing more psych profiling of their pilots. I'd hope that the level of asshole to kill 150 people would show up on a rigourous profile. Also check for suicidal tendencies. And for demeaning behaviour by co-workers that might act as triggers. Pilots, especially old-school pilots, can be assholes to the individuals around them.


i would imagine that they may re-visit the practice of only one person in the cockpit.

Although I don't know that a person hell-bent on crashing a plane can be stopped so easily
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It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #15 by MP » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:21 am

Why don't we have remote override for emergency situations on passenger plane yet?
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Post #16 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:25 am

MP wrote:Why don't we have remote override for emergency situations on passenger plane yet?


So some manic airplane control guy can kill people from the ground???!
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Post #17 by MP » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:31 am

Well, the control center wouldn't be manned by just one person, and other safety checks would have to be instituted.

Like access keys that only the flight crew have or the plane can only be taken over if there are significant alterations to course, altitude, speed...

Heck, I'd be fine with pilot less airplanes.
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Post #18 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:34 am

MP wrote:Well, the control center wouldn't be manned by just one person, and other safety checks would have to be instituted.

Like access keys that only the flight crew have or the plane can only be taken over if there are significant alterations to course, altitude, speed...

Heck, I'd be fine with pilot less airplanes.


This post will be traced back to as the moment humankind handed over complete and irrecoverable control to the machines...
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Post #19 by senate » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:54 am

This is all the greedy airlines fault for getting rid of flight engineers and navigators.
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Post #20 by MP » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:57 am

Dog wrote:This post will be traced back to as the moment humankind handed over complete and irrecoverable control to the machines...


Nope, a flight centre operated by pilots...
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Post #21 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:00 pm

MP wrote:Nope, a flight centre operated by pilots...


Like huge flight centers all over the world with thousands and thousands of pilots flying airplanes from a computer?
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Post #22 by MP » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:00 pm

Dog wrote:Like huge flight centers all over the world with thousands and thousands of pilots flying airplanes from a computer?


Yes.
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Post #23 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:02 pm

MP wrote:Yes.


I can't see how that could lead to mistakes and technical failures.
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Post #24 by MP » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:03 pm

Dog wrote:I can't see how that could lead to mistakes and technical failures.


Agree, you'd still have to have a backup pilot on the plane for emergencies or connection loss.
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Post #25 by IcE ColD » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:07 pm

MP wrote:Agree, you'd still have to have a backup pilot on the plane for emergencies or connection loss.


For whatever reason, I get the image of the autopilot from "Airplaine!" popping up in my head when reading that post.
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Post #26 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:09 pm

I DON'T WANNA DIE WHILE MY ON-THE-GROUND PILOT WAS POSTING ON BROADS, MP!!!!

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Post #27 by MP » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:12 pm

Dog wrote:I DON'T WANNA DIE WHILE MY ON-THE-GROUND PILOT WAS POSTING ON BROADS, MP!!!!

:why:


You'd rather die, because your on-board pilot was taking a poop and left the plane in the hands of an unsupervised suicidal co-pilot?
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Post #28 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:16 pm

MP wrote:You'd rather die, because your on-board pilot was taking a poop and left the plane in the hands of an unsupervised suicidal co-pilot?


I think that's less likely than an on-the-ground error/communication or technical failure.
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Post #29 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:16 pm

I really ought to get a license and fly myself around.
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Post #30 by MP » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:24 pm

Dog wrote:I really ought to get a license and fly myself around.


http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/technology/aeromobil-s-flying-car-will-go-on-sale-in-2017-company-says-1.2996116

2017...
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Post #31 by Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:34 pm



Excellent!

Flying cars will only make flying (and transportation in general) safer for all.
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Post #32 by Twitter bArt » Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:54 pm

Dog wrote:Like huge flight centers all over the world with thousands and thousands of pilots flying airplanes from a computer?


The Drone of a New Era
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #33 by Captain Roy Bringus » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:42 pm

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Post #34 by zamboner » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:47 pm

Solid reporting.
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Post #35 by Twitter bArt » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:25 pm

zamboner wrote:Solid reporting.


what do you expect when all the reporting is done from a newsroom using google and the internet instead of beat reporters out their actually journalating
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #36 by Twitter bArt » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:54 pm

great now we're gonna kill off 2 at a time

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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #37 by AD » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:55 pm

I demand efficient legislation against suicide pacts!
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Post #38 by Twitter bArt » Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:02 pm

we should send them all back to their countries
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #39 by Fruity Pebbles » Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:39 pm

That CNN thing didn't actually air on CNN, right?
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Post #40 by PredsFan77 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:54 pm

MP wrote:Well, the control center wouldn't be manned by just one person, and other safety checks would have to be instituted.

Like access keys that only the flight crew have or the plane can only be taken over if there are significant alterations to course, altitude, speed...

Heck, I'd be fine with pilot less airplanes.


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Post #41 by Captain Roy Bringus » Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:54 pm

Dot wrote:That CNN thing didn't actually air on CNN, right?


It did.
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Post #42 by PredsFan77 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:56 pm

SAVE US CAPTAIN ROY BRINGUS YOU ARE OUR ONLY HOPE
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Post #43 by RTWAP » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:36 am

Are there any tests they could do that would limit the likelihood of this? Would testing for empathy be useful, or are these types of suicidal events not affected by empathy. I just can't imagine deliberately killing 150 people (including kids). Would greeting the passengers as they board make it more or less likely for a pilot to kill them? Are there any tests for mood that could be done frequently enough to matter?

We need a Voight-Kampff test.

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Post #44 by Twitter bArt » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:55 am

pretty sure the Womens Coalition would issue a court challenge to all that mood testing
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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