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Post #101 by AD » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:32 am

Something must have gone wrong at the Embassy. Saudis usually force the guys to travel back to KSA and then do whatever needs to be done there. (see e.g., the last 2 years of examples)
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Post #102 by shredz » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:42 am

MbS probably ordered a detention, he resisted and blam, he's being sawed up.

Imagine if Iran did this? Trump would be trumpeting war claiming Khashoggi was a US citizen.
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Post #103 by shredz » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:02 am

It was a spy swap on the low. Brunson for Khashoggi. :colbert:
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Post #105 by PredsFan77 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:54 pm

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lookin forward to a few good men 2 where tom cruise cross examines the crown prince
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Post #107 by shredz » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:29 am

there it is

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Post #108 by shredz » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:08 am

predo, we said this last night. they stole our quote

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Post #110 by shredz » Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:30 pm

Jaish al-Adl got a pay raise.

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Militants in Iran abducted 14 members of a border security force near the Pakistan border on Tuesday in the latest blow to the powerful Revolutionary Guard.

Media reports quoted an unnamed but informed source as saying two of those abducted are members of the Guard's intelligence department. The rest include seven members of the Basij force, a volunteer wing of the Guard, as well as regular Iranian border guards.

The abduction took place under the cover of darkness near the Loukdan crossing point in southeastern Sistan and Baluchistan province. The area, which lies on a major opium trafficking route, has seen occasional clashes between Iranian forces and Baluch separatists, as well as drug traffickers.

Iranian media later said an al-Qaida-affiliated group known as Jaish al-Adl claimed responsibility for the attack.

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Post #111 by shredz » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:45 pm

Trump going with the rogue killers line. He's everyones bitch.

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Post #112 by shredz » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:51 pm

Its funny cuz its true
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Post #113 by PredsFan77 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:28 pm

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Post #114 by shredz » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:43 am

It took seven minutes for Jamal Khashoggi to die, a Turkish source who has listened in full to an audio recording of the Saudi journalist's last moments told Middle East Eye.

Khashoggi was dragged from the Consul General’s office at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and onto the table of his study next door, the Turkish source said.

Horrendous screams were then heard by a witness downstairs, the source said.

"The consul himself was taken out of the room. There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him,” the source told MEE.

The screaming stopped when Khashoggi - who was last seen entering the Saudi consulate on 2 October - was injected with an as yet unknown substance.

Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, who has been identified as the head of forensic evidence in the Saudi general security department, was one of the 15-member squad who arrived in Ankara earlier that day on a private jet.

Tubaigy began to cut Khashoggi’s body up on a table in the study while he was still alive, the Turkish source said.

The killing took seven minutes, the source said.

As he started to dismember the body, Tubaigy put on earphones and listened to music. He advised other members of the squad to do the same.

“When I do this job, I listen to music. You should do [that] too,” Tubaigy was recorded as saying, the source told MEE.

A three-minute version of the audio tape has been given to Turkish newspaper Sabah, but they have yet to release it.

A Turkish source told the New York Times that Tubaigy was equipped with a bone saw. He is listed as the president of the Saudi Fellowship of Forensic Pathology and a member of the Saudi Association for Forensic Pathology.

In 2014, London-based Saudi newspaper Asharaq al-Awsat interviewed Tubaigy about a mobile clinic that allows coroners to perform autopsies in seven minutes to determine the cause of death of Hajj pilgrims.

The newspaper reported that the mobile clinic was partly designed by Tubaigy and could be used in "security cases that requires pathologist intervention to perform an autopsy or examine a body at the place of a crime”.

These are the first details to emerge of the Saudi journalist’s killing. Khashoggi was last seen entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on 2 October to retrieve paperwork.

To date, Saudi officials have strongly denied any involvement in his disappearance and say that he left the consulate soon after arriving. However, they have not presented any evidence to corroborate their claim and say that video cameras at the consulate were not recording at the time.


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Post #116 by shredz » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:30 am

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Post #117 by shredz » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:02 am

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Post #119 by shredz » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:27 am

Alt headline: Local Long Island future of journalim pothead certain Mohammad Bin Salmon behind killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
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Post #120 by shredz » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:37 am

One already down, 14 to go.

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Post #121 by PredsFan77 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:23 pm

What a bunch of amateurs

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Post #122 by shredz » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:04 am

House of Saud. Lots of talking heads calling for MBS to be replaced.
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Post #124 by chicpea » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:18 am

PredsFan77 wrote:What a bunch of amateurs


What would your game plan have been, my scheming gamecock?
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Post #125 by chicpea » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:07 am

Got to love Jahred.

Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and Middle East adviser, has been urging the president to stand by the prince, according to a person close to the White House and a former official with knowledge of the discussions.

Mr. Kushner has argued that the crown prince can survive the outrage just as he has weathered past criticism.


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Post #126 by PredsFan77 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:09 am

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What would your game plan have been, my scheming gamecock?


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Post #127 by shredz » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:54 am

Dog wrote:
shredz wrote:House of Saud. Lots of talking heads calling for MBS to be replaced.


I was kidding. But you can bet your arse the admin would jump on any half decent opportunity to throw Turkey under the bus here to preserve their relation with SA.

Time to stop making deals with the devil here, but of course they don’t see it.



I see what you meant now.

Turkey is playing both sides right now but I don't think they should be taken on too severely because if we are going to muscle up against Russia and China we frankly could use both countries. Which is why Trump is easing up on Erdogan now and trying to shift blame for MBS.
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Post #128 by shredz » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:56 am

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My next comedy bit is about how gas stations that just say USA with American flags surrounding the premises but not one American citizen can be found.

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Post #129 by shredz » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:10 pm

The disappearance and alleged murder of Saudi journalist and Washington Post Columnist Jamal Khashoggi continues to strain relations between the United States and Saudi Arabia. On Saturday, President Donald Trump warned the Saudis of “severe punishment” if the Saudi government was found to have been responsible for the journalist’s alleged murder.

The Saudi government has vocally denied any involvement even though Khashoggi disappeared within the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul and responded to Trump’s threats by vowing an even “stronger” response if the Gulf monarchy is ultimately targeted by the United States. The exchange of threats caused Saudi stocks to sustain their biggest one-day loss since 2016 when trading opened and has brought the upcoming three-day Future Investment Initiative (FII) in Saudi Arabia much unwanted negative publicity.

However, there is considerable evidence pointing to the fact that the U.S.’ response to the Khashoggi affair is likely to be determined, not by any Saudi government responsibility for Khashoggi’s fate, but instead whether or not the Saudis choose to follow through with their promise to purchase the $15 billion U.S.-made THAAD missile system or it cheaper, Russia-made equivalent, the S-400. According to reports, the Saudis failed to meet the deadline for their planned THAAD purchase and had hinted in late September that they were planning to buy the S-400 from Russia instead.

While the U.S.’ response to the alleged murder of the Saudi journalist is being cast as a U.S. government effort to defend press freedom and finally hold the Saudi government to account for its long litany of human-rights abuses, there is every indication that the U.S. is not in fact seeking to punish the Saudis for their alleged role in Khashoggi’s apparent murder but instead to punish them for reneging on this $15 billion deal to U.S. weapons giant Lockheed Martin, which manufactures the THAAD system.

Khashoggi’s disappearance merely provided a convenient pretext for the U.S. to pressure the Saudis over abandoning the weapons deal by allowing the U.S. to frame its retaliation as a “human rights” issue. As a result, it seems likely that, if the Saudis move forward with the latter, the U.S. and the Trump administration the Saudi government guilty of involvement in Khashoggi’s disappearance while, if they move forward with the former, the media frenzy and controversy surrounding the Saudi national will likely fizzle out and, with it, Trump’s threats of “severe punishment.”


Trump Will Use Journalist Murder to Force Saudis to Drop Their S-400 Purchase, Load Up on US Weapons
https://astutenews.com/2018/10/19/trump ... s-weapons/
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Post #131 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:40 pm

solution for both sides: blame canada
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Post #132 by shredz » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:25 pm

The major French daily Le Figaro on Thursday published a bombshell story which reports the Saudi royal family is actively considering a replacement to crown prince Mohammed bin Salman (MbS) as next in line to succeed his father King Salman as the kingdom finds itself under the greatest international pressure and scrutiny it's faced in its modern history over the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi — widely believed to have been killed on orders of MbS himself.

The Li Figaro report's unnamed diplomatic source says the Allegiance Council, which is historically the body responsible for approving the order of succession to the throne, is currently meeting in secret (translation from the French):

For several days, the Allegiance Council for the ruling Saudi family is meeting in the utmost discretion, says a diplomatic source to Le Figaro in Paris. The information has been confirmed by a Saudi Arabian contacted in Riyadh. Composed of a delegate representing each of the clans — at least seven — of the royal family, this body, responsible for inheritance problems, examines the situation created by the disappearance, still unresolved, more than a fortnight ago, of the journalist dissident Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.

The report in France's oldest top three national newspapers further suggests the ruling family is seeking to replace the 33-year old MbS with his much less ambitious and more predictable brother, Prince Khalid bin Salman.


http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/20 ... nclave.php
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Post #134 by chicpea » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:11 am

Iranian ghost ships heading to China laden with over-priced oil.
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Post #135 by shredz » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:17 am

Blow 'em out the water! :trump2:
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Post #136 by chicpea » Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:45 pm

This is a good read on Saudi troll farms and an agent inside twitter:

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Post #137 by chicpea » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:10 pm

“They’re two young guys. Jared doesn’t know him well or anything. They are just two young people. They are the same age. They like each other I believe,” Mr Trump said.


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Post #138 by shredz » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:57 pm

4D chess to bring down the true perps of 9.11 - GET EM DONNIE

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Post #139 by shredz » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:06 pm

"No financial ties"



Donald Trump has blasted Hillary Clinton for accepting money from Saudi Arabia through her foundation, but a Daily News investigation reveals he has padded his bank account with cash from the same country.

Trump sold the 45th floor of Trump World Tower to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for $4.5 million in June 2001, according to a city Finance Department spokeswoman. In 2008, the apartments became part of the Saudi Mission to the United Nations, records show.

The five apartments included 10 bedrooms and 13 bathrooms at the time of the sale, and had yearly common charges of $85,585 for building amenities, documents obtained by The News show. If those common charges remain the same, Trump was paid at least $5.7 million by the Saudi government since 2001.


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Records obtained by The News indicate Trump's connection to influential Saudis predate the Trump World Tower deal.

In 1985, Osama Bin Laden's half-brother Shafiq Bin Laden paid an $8,500 security deposit for an apartment in Trump Tower. Records indicate Shafiq — often described as the Westernized, polar opposite of Osama Bin Laden — lived there for four months in 1986.


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Post #140 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:44 pm

Trump was trying to stop 9/11.
Also, let's keep this thread about Galchenyuk's on-ice performance, development and value and NOT bring in his personal life or race.
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Post #141 by shredz » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:49 pm

He wanted in on those insurance claims I bet. Prince Talal wouldn't have to buy his yacht to bail him out for the 8th time, only to have Trump flip the script and nod yes to MbS' shakedown which hurt him the most I think.
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Post #142 by shredz » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:59 pm

susf

The crisis between the two countries escalated in 2014 due to disputes over their common oil fields of Khafji and Wafra. Kuwait had opposed the inclusion of Chevron in the operation and the Saudis unilaterally ceased production. Kuwait says it was denied $18 billion in revenue and wants to be compensated. US President Donald Trump wants for there to a Saudi boost to the world oil supply in lieu of an expected drop in Iranian production, and Mohammed wants to resume production in the common oil fields as soon as possible. In Kuwait's political corridors, Mohammed is now referred to as “little Saddam.”

To cope with these pressures, Kuwait has been approaching actors such as Turkey who could help provide some form of protection. One Saudi prince voiced Riyadh's discomfort with the Kuwaiti moves by openly calling for the country's occupation. Prince Khalid bin Abdullah bin Faisal bin Turki, in a tweet, called "for a new ‘Determined Storm Operation’ to free Kuwait from the dictates of Ihvan [the Muslim Brotherhood] and Hamads [a derisive term for Qatar's leadership].”

Sabah, thinking Kuwait is next after Qatar, had angered Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates by telling Trump that the Saudis and Emiratis want a military solution to the Gulf crisis. Saudis claim Qataris are influencing Kuwait via the Muslim Brotherhood, while Kuwaitis accuse Saudis of employing Kuwaiti Salafis who graduated from the University of Medina as “agents of influence.”





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Post #143 by shredz » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:14 pm

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Killshot on MBS. Name your fucking price on the kid, Erdo.
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Post #144 by shredz » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:22 am

A little old but a very solid piece from Rob O Malley's crisis group exploring AQAP's expansion during the Yemen war. Read it last night high as fuck and enjoyed it so maybe you will too.

Yemen’s al-Qaeda: Expanding the Base
Thriving on conflict, sectarianism, and local opportunism, al-Qaeda’s affiliates are stronger than ever in Yemen. To shrink their growing base will require better governance in vulnerable areas, not treating all Sunni Islamists as one enemy, and above all ending Yemen’s civil war.


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Post #145 by shredz » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:27 am

LOL

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Post #146 by chicpea » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:35 am

...but MbS, as the crown prince is universally known, has been rattled by the crisis. According to the Wall Street Journal, the 33-year-old de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia is spending many nights on his yacht sailing the Red Sea, which he reportedly considers safer than his palace


From a policy briefing email.

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Post #147 by shredz » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:39 am

That's what happens when youre stuck in your own little box never being told no.

He'll learn the hard way the same hopefully Kushner does too. Its been reported that Kush might have backstabbed MBS because he backtracked on the Deal of The Century and reneged on a few other things important to Kushner.

King Salman should put him in prison or kill him. :colbert:

The Iranians have the donger face this whole time. :donger:
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Post #148 by shredz » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:49 am

When First Lady of South Carolina talks like this about the Saudis, shit is real:

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