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Post #351 by Craig » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:58 am

Yes, we will all have that. :paranoid:
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Post #352 by PPJ » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:03 am

Hopefully there is a zombie Khal Drogo in this show's future to put the bitch in her place.
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Post #353 by SidorkiewiczsPeter » Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:05 pm

She's a queen now guys, show some respect.
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Post #354 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:15 pm

Now this is comedy, fellas:

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Post #355 by Westy » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:02 am

brownman wrote:Now this is comedy, fellas:

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Post #356 by SidorkiewiczsPeter » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:13 am

Can I call you westyros in this thread?
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Post #357 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:58 am

By the way, the show's lack of beubs is an obvious reaction by the showrunners to audience criticism.

To be more specific though - not beubs precisely, but rather the unmotivated use of cheap sex while characters are talking. Lulzy, but they've got a serious show here!
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Post #358 by Craig » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:38 am

In the books, the prevalent style in half the free cities where the girl who refuses to show her boobs has been hanging out is to walk around with one boob uncovered all the time.
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Post #359 by PPJ » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:48 am

jester wrote:Fun fact: they completely exhausted the Bran storyline as written in the books. So, if you thought it was lame on the show, imagine two books of it.


WTF was going on there anyway. Sort of zoned out once they went into the tree.
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Post #360 by jester » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:10 am

Psycho Papa Joe wrote:WTF was going on there anyway. Sort of zoned out once they went into the tree.


Well, you know as much as any book reader basically ... though, not as detailed on the show. Essentially, Bran has the ability to tap into the Weirwood interwebs and see shit. So, now he's going to (presumably) receive the necessary training and development to take advantage of that ability (on top of his ability to turn humans and animals into puppets). The implication is that Bran is terribly important to the end game of this thing, and no one knows how that is going to play out.

The only thing that made his plot arc even remotely interesting was cut out of the show, but they also vastly cut down the length of his plot arc.
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Post #361 by PPJ » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:13 am

jester wrote:Well, you know as much as any book reader basically ... though, not as detailed on the show. Essentially, Bran has the ability to tap into the Weirwood interwebs and see shit. So, now he's going to (presumably) receive the necessary training and development to take advantage of that ability (on top of his ability to turn humans and animals into puppets). The implication is that Bran is terribly important to the end game of this thing, and no one knows how that is going to play out.

The only thing that made his plot arc even remotely interesting was cut out of the show, but they also vastly cut down the length of his plot arc.


So he's there version of a Jedi?
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Post #362 by jester » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:16 am

Psycho Papa Joe wrote:So he's there version of a Jedi?


More mystic/seer type than a Jedi (who are rather explicitly modeled on monastic fighting orders).
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Post #363 by mayoradamwest » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:17 am

Dr_Chimera wrote:By the way, the show's lack of beubs is an obvious reaction by the showrunners to audience criticism.

To be more specific though - not beubs precisely, but rather the unmotivated use of cheap sex while characters are talking. Lulzy, but they've got a serious show here!


i read an interview a couple weeks ago that said the plan was to continue giving boring but important plot dialogue with all manners of boobs, breasts, tits, and whatnot about.
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Post #364 by WTF » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:50 pm

Psycho Papa Joe wrote:WTF was going on there anyway. Sort of zoned out once they went into the tree.


He's never directly identified in the ASOIAF books proper but if you read the short stories set a century before the events of A Game of Thrones, you can easily piece together who Bran met:

[SPOILER]Bran just met up with The Three-Eyed Crow/Bloodraven/Brynden Rivers, a one-eyed legitimized Targaryen bastard/spymaster/former Hand of the King/former Lord Commander of the Night's Watch who is over a hundred years old by the time Bran meets him.

Oh, and he's obviously got a knack for magic as he also had a reputation as a sorcerer back in the day as well.[/SPOILER]
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Post #365 by Redden Punches Faces » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:14 pm

bran will soon be able to conjure force tits from thin air, folks.
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Post #366 by NyQuil » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:04 am

WTF wrote:He's never directly identified in the ASOIAF books proper but if you read the short stories set a century before the events of A Game of Thrones, you can easily piece together who Bran met:


Or you can just read the wiki.
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Post #367 by WTF » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:35 am

NyQuil wrote:Or you can just read the wiki.


That's the other method. The short story format at least mitigates Martin's tendency to spend pages describing food. You still get an occasional paragraph describing roast capon but it's not as bad.
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Post #368 by Haddock » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:57 pm

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Post #369 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:16 pm

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Post #370 by Macbeth » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:46 pm

Smiled when I saw who first started this thread. :mkbét:
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Post #373 by zamboner » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:06 pm

Show is not good anymore... It's mostly costumes and gratuitous violence. There is nothing brilliant here at all. It's superficial entertainment.

The pacing is horrible. Too many plots and characters, with the importance of each being built up and then neglected for like 10 episodes.

The most interesting moments of the last 4 seasons have involved the Lannisters having it out with each other. Push Cercei on screen for 52 min/week and let her gulp wine and insult her family members.
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Post #374 by mayoradamwest » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:11 pm

zamboner wrote:Show is not good anymore... It's mostly costumes and gratuitous violence. There is nothing brilliant here at all. It's superficial entertainment.

The pacing is horrible. Too many plots and characters, with the importance of each being built up and then neglected for like 10 episodes.

The most interesting moments of the last 4 seasons have involved the Lannisters having it out with each other. Push Cercei on screen for 52 min/week and let her gulp wine and insult her family members.


I think the most gratuitous scenes are actually over. We should start seeing the politics come back to the forefront, though how they're going to essentially introduce two new kingdoms without losing interest might be challenging.
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Post #375 by NyQuil » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:43 pm

zamboner wrote:The pacing is horrible. Too many plots and characters, with the importance of each being built up and then neglected for like 10 episodes.


What's interesting is that in the modern social media age, it's possible to keep an entire segment oof fans entertained despite the proliferation of characters because they'll create their own wikis and follow collectively online.
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Post #376 by Balki Bartokomous » Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:37 am

Hello winter my old friend.

First four episodes of the season leaked.
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Post #377 by Transplanted Caper » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:58 pm

Varys/Tyrion is going to be fun to watch this season.
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Post #378 by PPJ » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:37 pm

Too many thrones, not enough groans.
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Post #379 by NyQuil » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:40 am

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Now with 80s soundtrack.
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Post #380 by NyQuil » Sun May 17, 2015 11:28 pm

The dwarf lives until we find a cock merchant.
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Post #381 by Redden Punches Faces » Mon May 18, 2015 10:58 am

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Post #382 by PPJ » Mon May 18, 2015 2:58 pm

That girl who plays Ramsay's girlfriend appears to be about 16 years old. Looked her up on IMDB and they don't have a birthdate listed. What the hell?
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Post #383 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Mon May 25, 2015 3:45 am

Jon Pryce has snagged an Emmy for this delightful hamjob.
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Post #384 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:53 am

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Post #385 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:16 am

Episode 9: return to long and boring roundtable discussions.
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Post #386 by Transplanted Caper » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:03 pm

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Post #387 by PPJ » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:14 pm

Ugh. That just might be a jump the shark moment.
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Post #388 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:44 pm

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Post #389 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:06 am

dong perimong wrote:Computer generated imagery's finest moment.


A new gold standard following Sopranos s03e02.
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Post #390 by rbochan » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:22 am

Perhaps some soup instead?
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Post #391 by Westy » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:00 pm

Stannis, what have ye done?
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Post #392 by RTWAP » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:30 pm

Westy wrote:Stannis, what have ye done?


Yah. Seems like a very stupid move for a character that wants to be king. When word gets out then who would be willing to follow him, unless they just wave it all away with "nobody tells anybody". And this is the same character with such a rigid moral code that he chopped fingers off the hand of the guy who saved him because he broke the law while doing so.

Or as Jason Concepcion on Grantland put it:

What bothers me about the scene is that it’s based on a character acting in a way that’s counter to how he’s been depicted all series. Stannis has been depicted as one of the greatest generals in the realm. He held the Storm’s End against a one-year siege by eating rats. So if the device that gets Stannis to the place where he’s desperate enough to burn his only daughter and heir alive2 is (1) some snow and (2) a sudden and convenient ineptitude at doing war stuff, that feels off to me. Stannis, “the greatest military commander in Westeros” per Davos, is in enemy territory, on the march toward a belligerent castle, and for some reason (i.e., to make this scene happen) he doesn’t have scouts out or watchmen guarding the camp or have his army — made up largely of professional mercenaries who themselves should know better — in the state of alertness necessary in a war. Also: Ramsay is now a ninja. I don’t buy it.

Of course bad things happen on Game of Thrones. But when you arrive at those things through contrivances, it cheapens the shock. It’s about consistent storytelling.
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Post #393 by jester » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:38 am

I think the Maester displays a considerable lack of knowledge on military matters. There's little shocking about an army having difficulties in foreign territory, and terrible weather. So, that line of reasoning makes little sense.

I also don't get the line of thought that this is out of character for Stannis. The problem is the show has not played up the whole burning people alive thing. Given the situation, it seems entirely in character for Stannis to resort to the fire... and torching his daughter puts his money where his mouth is. It's easy to torch other people's kids, but if you really believe...
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Post #394 by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:10 pm

Well, I read an interesting theory that it was needed by Melisandre for something that happens in the books.

I'd spoiler tag it, but the spoiler tags dont work anymore.
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Post #395 by jester » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:30 pm

Boltsfanatic wrote:Well, I read an interesting theory that it was needed by Melisandre for something that happens in the books.

I'd spoiler tag it, but the spoiler tags dont work anymore.


I saw that theory pass by on twitter or somewhere, too. Who knows. We'll probably never find out, because God knows when the book will come out.
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Post #396 by Transplanted Caper » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:42 pm

It's going to be interesting to see how they do the next season. They completely ignored the Bran s/l and anything to do with the Greyjoys this season. If Martin gets the new book out before S6 starts and the writers have another 1000 pages of source information, I wonder whether they can really go back and start telling parts of the stories they haven't touched so far. Who knows, maybe Martin advised them which storylines in books 4 and 5 were least relevant to the final outcome.
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Post #397 by RTWAP » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:18 pm

Transplanted Caper wrote:It's going to be interesting to see how they do the next season. They completely ignored the Bran s/l and anything to do with the Greyjoys this season. If Martin gets the new book out before S6 starts and the writers have another 1000 pages of source information, I wonder whether they can really go back and start telling parts of the stories they haven't touched so far. Who knows, maybe Martin advised them which storylines in books 4 and 5 were least relevant to the final outcome.


Considering there can be up to 12 months (or more) of lead time between when an author finishes writing the first draft of the book and when it actually gets published, if he was planning on publishing it sometime next year then B&W could very well get access to that first draft. As I understand it, major plot points tend not to change in the editing process, just tweaks, rewriting for clarify, sometimes reordering sections, or excising or trimming for length.

But realistically, they would probably need that draft right about now. They're probably working on the scripts for next season as we speak. Then again, if GRRM is cooperative they could just call him up and ask if there are any new details he'd like to share from the books, or even ideas for the show plot that won't make it in the book but fit where the show seems to be going.

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