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Post #1801 by Germz » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:07 pm

Recently I visited an aiport McDonalds in the USA that was offering a two-for-one deal, so we got 12 McNuggets for $1.50
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Post #1802 by Murphy » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:57 am

When I was in Puerto Rico a few years ago, they had 50 for 20$ with drinks and fries. Was a family meal.

They also had a McChicken Big Mac.
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Post #1803 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:08 pm

This fred has run its course.

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Post #1804 by Craig » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:10 pm

One of the most gratuitous tits I've seen on TV in ages on Billions a couple of eps ago.
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Post #1805 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:58 am

Louis CK's new Netflix special is very funny.
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Post #1806 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:59 am

Dr_Chimera wrote:Louis CK's new Netflix special is very funny.


Please be sure to make these remarks in the Potpourri Fred next time.
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Post #1807 by Germz » Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:21 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:
Germz wrote:Just finished series 1 of Line of Duty.

I thought the first two episodes were excellent, but the second half of the season was a letdown, in terms of how well the story was plotted.

Good enough to try the second series, though, especially if it does get better as I've read here and elsewhere.


Many of the loose ends of season one are addressed later on the show. Season four is just beginning this month.


Season 2 was very good. But I'm four episodes into season 3 and it is fantastic. I never binge watch TV but I'm having a really hard time turning it off in between episodes. Will probably finish season 3 tomorrow.

Really appreciate the recommendation.
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Post #1808 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:41 pm

Maigret: Night at the Crossroads - bad

Bosch, season 3 - worse
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Post #1809 by AD » Sun May 07, 2017 3:57 pm

I don't know why I've never mentioned this before but I really like Sense8
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Post #1810 by Dr_Chimera » Thu May 25, 2017 2:22 am

Has anyone here yet seen the #goldenageoftv Fox Television serial Einstein With Abs?
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Post #1811 by Dr_Chimera » Thu May 25, 2017 2:23 am

Another lonely evening. I need a soul mate to watch Law & Order shows with me.
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I hate Law and Order
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Post #1813 by Dr_Chimera » Fri May 26, 2017 5:29 pm

Both of you are poopyheads.
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Post #1814 by Craig » Fri May 26, 2017 10:38 pm

I'm very much enjoying American Gods.

I'm begrudgingly enjoying A Handmaid's Tale. Don't tell anyone.
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Post #1815 by WTF » Mon May 29, 2017 6:20 pm

I actually don't mind that American Gods is going off on some tangents as the show will need to pace itself if the plan is for the novel to be stretched out over 3 or 4 seasons.
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Post #1816 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:54 pm

First two eps of Fargo, season 3, are better than expected. Nice atmosphere. Some awful music, but I'm not expecting perfection.
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Post #1817 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:05 am

Dr_Chimera wrote:First two eps of Fargo, season 3, are better than expected. Nice atmosphere. Some awful music, but I'm not expecting perfection.


Unfortunately Fargo got progressively worse. This would have been fine as a brisk 6-parter, but instead overstayed its welcome with 10 episodes.

I think the writer Hawley should be sent packing. He is writing most of the episodes and is simply running out of ideas. It seems he got his life philosophy from some Bob Dylan song, which would be fine if he weren't hammering the same point home over and over again.

Unlike season two, there isn't a single sympathetic character. Not even ironically. I wound up hating everybody, and I think this is a bit of a problem. Gloria should be that character, and her point of view would narrate the story if the writer wasn't an idiot. But she is used too infrequently and ultimately we don't know her.

Finally this season is persistently odious, grotesque. And for no apparent reason. There is no comic relief to carry you through it. Not even a cool shoot-em-up ending. Just many pointless long shots and lingering scenes. I don't want to watch David Thewlis throwing up into a toilet or picking his rotten teeth.

Seriously, get a new writer.
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Post #1818 by Craig » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:14 am

GLOW is a show where Alison Brie alternates between spandex and nudity. Also, Mark Maron is grumpy or something. I think this is supposed to be a comedy? I'm in it for the Brie.
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Post #1819 by AD » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:42 pm

Dr_Chimera wrote:Louis CK's new Netflix special is very funny.


Yes
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Post #1820 by AD » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:08 pm

Glow's ok too.
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Post #1821 by Craig » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:09 am

Just for the record, GLOW pretty much dropped the nudity after the pilot. Anything to get picked up, I guess.
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Post #1822 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:33 pm

The Deuce is Vinyl all over again. Another morose 70s drug-a-thon.
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Post #1823 by Craig » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:28 am

It's more fun than Vinyl was.
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Post #1824 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:09 am

Not sure how to feel about Star Trek: Discovery yet. I watched the first two episodes, which are sort of the prologue. They were clunky, but no more clunky than previous Star Trek pilots - probably less.

I think we'll know what kind of show this is once we get a feel for the Discovery crew. Jason Isaacs and the rest of the crew will not come in until episode 3.

I notice some people have criticized the first episode of having too much action at the expense of character development, but I think once you get past episode 2 you will understand why this is. We do not meet most of our characters until the Discovery setting.
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Post #1825 by clawfirst » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:40 pm

That klingon ship cost 5 million and took 7 months
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Post #1826 by WTF » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:56 pm

clawfirst wrote:That klingon ship cost 5 million and took 7 months


How much is that in gold-pressed latinum?
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Post #1827 by clawfirst » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:09 pm

Lots?
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Post #1828 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:13 am

Dr_Chimera wrote:The Deuce is Vinyl all over again. Another morose 70s drug-a-thon.


Maggie Gyllenhall getting pretend-spooged is not something I expected to see.
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Post #1829 by Dr_Chimera » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:16 am

Dr_Chimera wrote:Not sure how to feel about Star Trek: Discovery yet. I watched the first two episodes, which are sort of the prologue. They were clunky, but no more clunky than previous Star Trek pilots - probably less.

I think we'll know what kind of show this is once we get a feel for the Discovery crew. Jason Isaacs and the rest of the crew will not come in until episode 3.

I notice some people have criticized the first episode of having too much action at the expense of character development, but I think once you get past episode 2 you will understand why this is. We do not meet most of our characters until the Discovery setting.


Watched ep 3. It's good, but I think I agree with those who say that this show is really not Star Trek. A complete departure from Roddenberry's vision and to a much greater extent than Deep Space 9.

They could have called this show by any other name. Calling it Star Trek just seems like a way to CBS to tap into an existing audience.

I am not a Trekkie, so I can live with all of this. But it would be nice to see real Trek again.
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Post #1830 by Craig » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:27 am

I think they correctly estimate that a real star trek exploration series wouldn't get watched anymore. The last series was closer to that and it floundered badly.
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Post #1831 by senate » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:45 pm

I think STD is very inspired by Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country. Both movies portrayed Starfleet as a military organization and portrayed the tensions that created with the scientific and diplomatic aspirations of the Federation. The bio-engineer's anger that his science study was hijacked by Starfleet echo Kirk's son's fears that Starfleet was going to turn the genesis device into a weapon. Also, CBS made a big deal about hiring Nicolas Meyer, the writer/director of Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country, as a writer on Discovery.
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Post #1832 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:28 pm

Struggling to even finish episode four of STD. I am trying to be open minded, but the show's characters are too unpleasant and the vision of the future kinda... fascist?

And the scenes with the klingons - battlefield earth was more enjoyable than this.
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Post #1833 by WTF » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:02 pm

I think the premise of Discovery is kind of interesting but the tone of it reminds me more of BSG than Star Trek. DS9 aside, most Trek series focused on exploration as a key theme rather than military action.

IMO, it looks like the Klingon actors are struggling a bit to emote and read their lines but that could be due to a lack of practice with Klingon. That and it's asking a lot more of them than previous series, where they could often handwave it away with the universal translator and just have actors in Klingon makeup speak their lines menacingly in English.
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Post #1834 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:45 pm

WTF wrote:I think the premise of Discovery is kind of interesting but the tone of it reminds me more of BSG than Star Trek. DS9 aside, most Trek series focused on exploration as a key theme rather than military action.


The utopia of TOS and TNG was also mostly leftist. It saw a future in which systemic hierarchy and militarism of organizations were either not necessary or less emphasized. There were generally outgoing, friendly vibes around everyone on the crew. Conflicts were solved through dialogue and non-aggression. And the story structure itself would splinter its point of view among a large cast of characters rather than guide us through the eyes of a single individual protagonist, which is consistent with those values if one thinks about it.

Discovery confuses me because it is such a polar opposite of what came before and I can't tell to what end. Either this is done in ignorance of past shows, or this is done to convey Starfleet's gradual transformation into what it later became.

Finally, I find the "strike first" mentality of the protagonist a bit concerning, particularly in light of world events. Star Trek was always an allegorical show, and it is hard not to take the same cues from this. At first it seemed the show condemned such militancy but now it seems to affirm it because both the protagonist and the captain are ideologically militant. Every motive is driven by the cynicism of characters, which makes it difficult to like them and to elicit any sort of empathy. Unless of course one appreciates their ideologies.

Old Trek show had many problems of course. I think they tacitly approved of a kind of well-intentioned, paternal imperialism. They depicted many cultures, like the klingons, as savage and animalistic. But at a time where we could use a better and more nunaced understanding of the other, STD has decided to magnify many of these worst tendencies and do away with the best parts of Trek. Again, maybe there will be some kind of surprise in store - a philosophical revelation - but I don't think I will make it that far. The world is full of odious militants as it is, and I don't need another show to remind me of it and to celebrate their ways.
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Post #1835 by clawfirst » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:10 pm

When this whole thing was shooting we all knew a certain type of trekkies wouldnt like it. Its not going to be UN in space. The klingon appearance will be explained ...some that resemble worf will also exist....


Give it tine or dont.
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Post #1836 by WTF » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:50 pm

I'm willing to give it a shot.

Even by the mid-to-late 24th century (Picard's era), it's not like all Starfleet captains are doves. I'm thinking of guys like Captain Maxwell from "The Wounded" (the first TNG episode I can think of that really focused on O'Brien), the guy who simply couldn't let go after going to war with the Cardassians.

Oh, and Maxwell wasn't exactly wrong either; his methods weren't the wisest but the Cardassians were indeed up to some shit.
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Post #1837 by senate » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:32 pm

clawfirst wrote:The klingon appearance will be explained ...some that resemble worf will also exist....


Will why Klingons struggle to speak their own language be explained or is that just the result of cheap actors in heavy makeup?
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Post #1838 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:56 pm

Oh I forgot my least favorite past of the recent episode: the Elon Musk namedrop. Gene Roddenberry spins in his grave.
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Post #1839 by clawfirst » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:20 pm

senate wrote:
clawfirst wrote:The klingon appearance will be explained ...some that resemble worf will also exist....


Will why Klingons struggle to speak their own language be explained or is that just the result of cheap actors in heavy makeup?

No. That just is what it is. A lot of money spent to force a pretend language.
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Post #1840 by WTF » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:01 am

Dr_Chimera wrote:Oh I forgot my least favorite past of the recent episode: the Elon Musk namedrop. Gene Roddenberry spins in his grave.


Part of that namedrop didn't make much sense to me. The timeline of the Trek universe is rather different than ours.

For one thing, we never experienced the Eugenics Wars in the early 90's in our timeline (resulting in the deaths of millions) nor did Khan and the Augments rule over us. Assuming Elon Musk even lived in the Star Trek timeline, the world he lived in would have been rather different than ours.
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Post #1841 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:05 am

That and Elon Musk fucking sucks.
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Post #1842 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:08 am

Doctor Foster - season 1 was good, but they ran out of ideas in season 2 and made the story too implausible and ridiculous

Liar - not bad... good production, terrific actors, last two eps a little predictable. Not for men's rights activists.
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Post #1843 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:09 am

Anyone watching Mindhunter? I'm thinking of giving it a go, but don't want to waste my time if it's morbid gross-out shlock.
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Dr_Chimera wrote:Anyone watching Mindhunter? I'm thinking of giving it a go, but don't want to waste my time if it's morbid gross-out shlock.

Watched the first episode a couple days ago. It seemed more character development than storyline, which may bode well for it. It wasn't gory. It also appears to follow the Netflix script of gratuitous nudity in the first episode to attract viewers.

If it continues to develop, it will be a solid show. But it is too early for me to tell. It is essentially early episodes Criminal Minds at this point.
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Post #1845 by vonbonds » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:07 am

Mindhunter - 4.5 out of 5 through 4 episodes
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Post #1846 by Shawnathan Horcoff » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:50 am

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Post #1847 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:11 am

vonbonds wrote:Mindhunter - 4.5 out of 5 through 4 episodes


watched episode 2 last night. it's like a smarter and funnier criminal minds thus far. also, i only watched the first few seasons of criminal minds before it became repetitive bullshit and gave up on it, and this rates favourably compared to those better years.
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Post #1848 by Boring Choice #2 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:21 pm

It's not really a crime / detective series in that there is a lack of the mystery element that is key to those series. This is really more of a character-based story* where the main characters happen to work in the field. I don't see the crimes as being central to the storyline.


*In the two episodes that I have seen.
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Post #1849 by vonbonds » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:50 pm

The show through 4 episodes is simply chronicling the ideology and development of psychological profiling of sequence serial killers by the FBI with help from an academic in psychology. It had to start somewhere and they're telling that story.
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Also boobies.

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