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Post #1951 by Craig » Sun May 29, 2016 9:08 pm

I also watched hardcore Henry, and yeah, it's great. I agree that it's a one off for filming style, but I bet we get a few more mindless pure action movies in the next few years. We call other flicks action-driven, but this thing literally never went more than two minutes without action.

I guess you could argue that this is just a continuation of what John wick started in that way, so still not really revolutionary.
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Post #1952 by Dr_Chimera » Mon May 30, 2016 1:53 pm

How to Murder Your Wife - 6/10
.. another fun Axelrod script .. amusingly sexist and racist throughout and interesting to watch for that reason .. the only black people in this are the servants .. I also like movies that have interesting set design and in this one Jack Lemmon has the most amazing urban condo .. Virna Lisi is in a bikini.

Taking of Pelham 123 (the 1974 one) - 5/10
.. used to be a classic, but now just looks like a string of cops-and-robbers stereotypes - partly due to how influential this has been on subsequent films .. also sexist and racist - in one scene Matthau refers to a group of Japanese businessmen as a bunch of monkeys.
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Post #1953 by Dr_Chimera » Mon May 30, 2016 2:01 pm

I also rewatched Miller's Crossing this weekend (which is terrific). Had no idea that Barry Sonnenfeld was the cinematographer. After doing some checking, I realized that Sonnenfeld was the Coens' go-to cinematographer from Blood Simple up to this (and then moved on to directing).

His visual ideas are quite brilliant. Gorgeous colors and a real skill for framing faces. I think much more impressionistic than Roger Deakings. As a director he never works with this kind of material, but you can see many similar visual ideas as what came later with Men in Black, etc.

It also appears that the Coens discovered Carter Burwell, who worked almost exclusively with them in the early years. Recently he scored Carol.
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Post #1954 by Dr_Chimera » Mon May 30, 2016 2:15 pm

Someone should write a paper on 1980s Hollywood depictions of middle-to-upper class housing (maybe I will) - mostly in the Reagan years, spanning the transition out of the cold war.

Spielberg probably started this in the 70s. Hollywood created a myth about what an American middle class household is like. Gorgeous suburban houses, a couple of floors and an attic. Often set in the fall (not sure why). Usually country style. Oftentimes someone is making a turkey - usually the mother. There is always a sizable chunk of land surrounding the house.

I don't know where Hollywood found these houses, but they were always great to look at. The added fact that they were (mythically) associated with middle class living is one of the reasons Americans won the cold war (because these films were illegally trickling into Eastern block countries on VHS tapes).

Examples: Planes, Trains and Automobiles (ending), Midnight Run (ex-wife's house). Christmas Vacation's house looked more shitty than those, but still pretty good. By the time the Soviet Union goes out of business, in the early 1990s, Hollywood becomes enamored with yuppies and more upper class housing. Do people remember Tom Cruise's digs in The Firm?
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Post #1955 by Zardoz » Mon May 30, 2016 5:30 pm

There's an area of Hamilton that looks exactly like the neighbourhood in Home Alone. I'm sure it was a rich area when it was built (1920s), but hard times through the 90s and it's all lower middle class families now. 6 bedroom homes with 1/4 acre lots, but seriously straight from 80s/90s American film. It's always been a bit unnerving there for that reason.
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Post #1956 by Dr_Chimera » Mon May 30, 2016 5:33 pm

This is the home alone house, I think. Speaking of John Hughes movies.

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Post #1957 by Dr_Chimera » Mon May 30, 2016 5:34 pm

In my post I said 'Uncle Buck', but I was thinking of Planes, Trains and Automobiles. I love that ending where Steve Martin finally arrives home with John Candy. The wife is there and they cut to a shot of a turkey. Reagan-era America looked pretty good.
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Post #1958 by Craig » Mon May 30, 2016 7:02 pm

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Craig wrote:I also watched hardcore Henry, and yeah, it's great. I agree that it's a one off for filming style, but I bet we get a few more mindless pure action movies in the next few years. We call other flicks action-driven, but this thing literally never went more than two minutes without action.

I guess you could argue that this is just a continuation of what John wick started in that way, so still not really revolutionary.


And the POV framing was already carried out in the Doom adaptation with a more transparent dovetail from videogaming, albeit to truly dull effect. Just watched that scene again now and it's laughable.



Not sure if there are any other POV action films. The mode could be re-used in creative ways possibly. One problem all of the critics had with Hardcore Henry was the lack of plot. Personally, I thought the plot was just fine how light it was. But giving the character a voice and pursuing more drama that's pertinent to transporting the audience into a POV may be worth exploring. I seem to remember everyone thinking that giving your character Ray Liotta's voice in Vice City contrasted well with the voiceless Claude in GTA III.


Doom was just so bad though. Can you be that bad and still be groundbreaking?

I agree about the plot. I guess it would have been a little nice just to get some more background on the bad guy, but otherwise you just had enough to string together the action and a fun little twist for the Sharlto Copley character. Any more would just have distracted from the whole point of the movie. I mean it's not like there was going to be some really satisfying, compelling plot drawn up that would have really added to the concept. This wasn't supposed to be The Matrix shot first person.
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Post #1959 by Dr_Chimera » Tue May 31, 2016 2:35 am

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I remember this being on TV once in the late 1990s. TV guide made an error by labeling it as adult content.

Being in my teens, I was pretty disappointed.
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Post #1960 by Dr_Chimera » Tue May 31, 2016 2:37 am

Screech's sex tape, -100/10.
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Post #1961 by Germz » Tue May 31, 2016 11:08 pm

Finally saw Inside Out. I really enjoyed it. The consensus is correct. It ranks up there with the second tier of very good Pixar films (A Bug's Life, Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, the Incredibles, Toy Story 3) and gets bonus points for not being a sequel. But it's not quite on the level of the first two Toy Story films, Ratatouille, Wall-E or Up.

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Post #1962 by AD » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:24 pm

You saying Toy Story 3 is second tier??!
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Post #1963 by vonbonds » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:40 am

Monsters Inc. was excellent. I think you're selling it short.
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Post #1964 by Germz » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:21 pm

And here I thought I'd get flak for putting Ratatouille in the first tier.

They're all 8/10 or better, guys. That's high praise. Hunger Games praise.
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Post #1965 by AD » Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:07 am

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Post #1966 by Germz » Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:07 pm

Easy A - 9/10
Near-perfect for what it is.

The Lego Movie - 6/10
A cute and well-executed piece of garbage with a nice ending.
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Post #1967 by AD » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:52 am

Germz movie ratings - 6/10

Brilliant at times but generally disjointed.
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Post #1968 by Germz » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:32 am

Honoured to hear that I measure up to that brilliant cinematic triumph, The Lego Movie.
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Post #1969 by AD » Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:23 pm

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Post #1970 by Dr_Chimera » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:11 pm

Notorious (1946) - more talky and boring than I remember. Some nice shots. 6/10

Mirage (1965) - really beautiful b/w cinematography, but everything else stinks. Gregory Peck is a very cardboard, Leslie Nielsen-style actor. 4/10

I saw these back-to-back and it's interesting that roughing up an irrational woman was in style for so long.
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Post #1971 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:49 am

Hardcore Henry was great. I am impressed by how fun it was the whole way through, and the humor really worked.

The critics got this one totally wrong, and it is obvious that many of the haters aren't gamers. One critic criticized Sharlto Copley's acting, even though his character is clearly a gaming archetype.

Some of this reminded me of Borderlands, but more bloody.
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Post #1972 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:17 pm

Night Moves - 6.5/10

Quintessential 70s New Hollywood loner story. The premise is very clever: Gene Hackman is a detective who does not detect - a fractured character in the spirit of European art cinema. The film however looks and sounds awfully trashy. The pacing is bizarre and the soundtrack does not suit the mood. I can only imagine what Polanski would do with something like this - while the dialogue is intentionally artificial, the film mostly plays this straight, including Hackman. I was hoping for something stylistishly noirish, a la Chinatown. Oh well.

Melanie Griffith is in the buff at 15. Thought _dong might want to know.
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Post #1973 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:53 am

Midnight Special = complete waste of time.
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Post #1974 by PPJ » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:40 pm

Angry Birds -terrible, just terrible
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Post #1975 by Craig » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:58 pm

London Has Fallen is exactly what you should hope it would be. I mean the premise and plot are as thin as can be, but the action was great, the pacing was good and the acting is better than most movies like this get. No regrets.

Point Break on the other hand, oof.
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Post #1976 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:08 pm

I thought it was poor. I am a big fan of disaster movies, but somewhere along the way Hollywood forgot how to make them with the right sort of humor. Gerard Butler is just dreck.

And is there a worse, and comparably smug, actor than Aaron Eckhart?
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Post #1977 by Dr_Chimera » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:14 pm

I am cautiously interested in the Independence Day sequel. Happy that Goldblum and Brent Spiner are back, but it's too bad that the Will Smith replacement is that bland white guy from one of the Expendables films.

Hollywood has been churning out many bland young white guys in recent years and they are increasingly difficult to tell apart. It's frustrating.

The first film struck me as an uneven satire that made fun of American exceptionalism. Rewatched it recently and still think so. I loved it. But I bet the new one will play it straight and probably suck balls.
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Post #1978 by PredsFan77 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:35 am

Independence Day 2: -9.5/10 worst movie I've ever watch
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Post #1979 by vonbonds » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:59 pm

That movie is screaming to be illegally downloaded. Anyone spending money to see it should be a candidate for government sterilization
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Post #1980 by Craig » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:01 pm

The only reason to watch it is special effects, which are best seen in a theatre.
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Post #1981 by vonbonds » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:05 pm

I have a kick ass home theater :colbert:
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Post #1982 by PredsFan77 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:33 pm

the first one was a cult classic, this one was not. Amazingly, they set the stage for a 3rd movie at the end of this one.
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Post #1983 by RTWAP » Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:02 am

Saw Tarzan. Was prepared for it to suck. It didn't. It's not great, but it's not bad. And unlike many Tarzan movies, this one actually feels like it happens in Africa.
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Post #1984 by Germz » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:32 pm

Haven't seen the new Ghostbusters yet. But I did re-watch the original for the first time since I was a kid. It's reasonably funny but pretty sexist. No wonder it's become a focal point for shithead trolls trying to preserve the testosteronal purity of the American comedy from these uppity chicks.
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Post #1985 by vonbonds » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:41 pm

Just watched Waking Ned Devine again. Such a fun movie.
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Post #1986 by Dr_Chimera » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:19 am

The Nice Guys: Absolute Dogshit/10.
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Post #1987 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:09 am

Lasted about 12 minutes into Independence Day 2. Three comments.

1) Why is the color palette so shitty-looking?

2) Will Smith's replacements are just depressingly bad.

3) Emmerich made a few decent films when he followed the Spielberg rule: two story threads, one for sci-fi or supernatural occurrences, and the other a family drama. Works very well, especially if written and filmed skillfully. Always start with the latter. The first ID followed this rule. Here they begin with some stupid military bullshit. Time to retire.
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Post #1988 by Dr_Chimera » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:13 am

The Family Plot - 7/10 - Hitch's last flick. Gorgeously shot and entertaining the whole way through. Barbara Harris is kinda hot in spite of the granny hair.
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Post #1989 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:36 am

The Wrong Man - 3/10 - Hitchcock can't do straight drama, turgid and boring.
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Post #1990 by RTWAP » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:01 pm

Central Intelligence - 8/10. Surprisingly solid. Lots of laughs. It's one of those movies that doesn't try to be epic in any way, and instead just keeps hitting solid singles and doubles. Good story. Great chemistry.

I've actually seen it twice now (forgot I promised my oldest I would take her) and I enjoyed it even more on the re-watch. This might just go on the annual seasonal re-watch list, like Home Alone is for X-mas movies, except this one is a good summer movie.
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Post #1991 by AD » Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:42 am

Elysium. Actually made it to the end on the 2nd try.

Still barf.
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Post #1992 by Dr_Chimera » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:39 am

Just watched Money Monster.

Dear George Clooney. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?
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Post #1993 by Germz » Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:44 pm

Star Trek Beyond. 5/10.
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Post #1994 by vonbonds » Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:19 pm

Oh no..lie to me next time about it
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Post #1995 by Dr_Chimera » Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:38 am

As many others have pointed out, Jason Bourne is very derivative. Vincent Cassel himself is derivative.

There is a lack of realism to the technology and in many of the stunts, which bothered me a bit. I can suspend disbelief up to a point. Some of the things Bourne does with technology make no sense, particularly the way he tracks Alicia Vikander at the end. Not to mention that CIA's capabilities in this film are just sci-fi. At least Deja Vu (the Tony Scott film about surveillance) embraced itself as sci-fi.

Also, the Las Vegas strip is not this long.
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Post #1996 by NyQuil » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:51 am

Jason Bourne was just a montage of security card swipes, calling in the extremely ineffectual "Alpha and Bravo" teams and continuously asking for updates on where "the asset is".

"Bring in the asset."

"Where is the asset?"

"Asset is five minutes out."

"Contact the asset."

"Draw a bath and prepare a nice meal for the asset."

"Tell the asset about that episode of Friends where Chandler and Joey grow mustaches to be more like Tom Selleck."

Not to mention, for a clandestine organization, they cause about $57 million dollars in damage worldwide. And how did Jason Bourne basically walk into a casino replete with video surveillance everywhere when they already proved they can use every camera in the world to run facial recognition? Because he was wearing a baseball cap? Don't get me started on the impressive structural integrity of his Dodge Charger relative to every other car that collides with the SWAT van in the chase sequence.

Furthermore, how many old Hollywood actors get roped into this franchise to be the "tough bureaucrat guy in a suit" with apparently no knowledge of the fact that every previous tough bureaucrat guy in a suit has ended up in a body bag?

Tommy Lee Jones: "We're going to eliminate Jason Bourne".

Computer Guy who Hasn't left his Job for the entire Series Sitting in the Back of the Room: "How about we just leave Jason Bourne alone?"

Tommy Lee Jones: "Excuse me?"

Computer Guy who Hasn't left his Job for the entire Series Sitting in the Back of the Room: "We've already tried three times and the boss always ends up dead. Maybe we just let this one slide."

Tommy Lee Jones: "I think we're due."

Computer Guy who Hasn't left his Job for the entire Series Sitting in the Back of the Room: "We might want to give Robert Duvall or Robert Redford a call. You know, just get 'em prepped for the next one."
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Post #1998 by AD » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:43 pm

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Post #1999 by RTWAP » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:53 pm

oh, and d_k, can you shed any light on how Suicide Squad relates to Men's Rights?

I realize it's not your point, just hoping for insight from someone who seems to observe the fringes of the culture wars more than I do.

The only thing I can think is that men are drawing inspiration from the way Joker treats Harley Quinn. But that seems like a disservice to the men in question because it's such a lame point of view. If you're inspired by an evil shithead who badly mistreats his girlfriend and is about 50/50 on killing her for kicks then they're not exactly modeling their relationship goals on an ideal that is reasonable, healthy, or morally acceptable. It might be attractive in some ways to have that much power over someone, but I can't help but think it's attraction is primarily about masking a deep feeling of weakness.
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