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Post #303 by R-66Y » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:32 am

Though my phone died so I have yet to try the physical Pip-boy
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Post #304 by HS » Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:52 am

R-66Y wrote:Though my phone died so I have yet to try the physical Pip-boy



Ooooo. I forgot about that. I have the app installed on my Nexus 6, so I can always set it up.

How far into the story are you?
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Post #305 by R-66Y » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:11 am

Not far at all. The beginning of the story is excellent. I don't want to spoil anything for anyone
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Post #306 by HS » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:18 am

R-66Y wrote:Not far at all. The beginning of the story is excellent. I don't want to spoil anything for anyone


No worries.

I'm up to level 16. So I have been playing quite a bit. I'm convinced that this will be the game of the year. But I don't really understand the user reviews on Metacritics, IGN, etc. Seems a little childish. Game has barely been out 48 hours and people are already crying over certain things.

The story develops very nicely. I read a critic review of how the story seems lost in the many side-quests. I find that the writer was ignoring the point of Fallout -- the immersion. And I am definitely immersed. I'm totally engrossed into this game. It's fucking awesome.
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Post #307 by R-66Y » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:33 am

I have always gotten lost in the side quests, and I don't care
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Post #308 by IcE ColD » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:40 am

No worries.

I'm up to level 16. So I have been playing quite a bit. I'm convinced that this will be the game of the year. But I don't really understand the user reviews on Metacritics, IGN, etc. Seems a little childish. Game has barely been out 48 hours and people are already crying over certain things.

The story develops very nicely. I read a critic review of how the story seems lost in the many side-quests. I find that the writer was ignoring the point of Fallout -- the immersion. And I am definitely immersed. I'm totally engrossed into this game. It's fucking awesome.[/quote]

You've been a gamer for a couple of years, I don't get why this is such a surprise. Gamers are entitled as fuck.

R-66Y wrote:I have always gotten lost in the side quests, and I don't care


An awesome gaqme does that.

Now I'll cross my fingers, christmas is close...
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Post #309 by HS » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:38 pm

There's a section of the storyline where you're going to have to travel to find someone in power armour. That was the most fucking awesome walk I have ever done in a Fallout game. The music, the scenery, the sheer gravity of what I was looking at 200 years into the future... holy shit, man.
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Post #310 by Craig » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:55 pm

I don't think my 7 year old pos computer will run this game.

How much to get a modern gaming rig? Not top of the line, just something respectable.
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Post #311 by HS » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:29 pm

Craig wrote:I don't think my 7 year old pos computer will run this game.

How much to get a modern gaming rig? Not top of the line, just something respectable.


Well, probably around 500-750 bucks. Expensive in some respects, but good enough. I could probably build you something and send it your way for you to shop later tomorrow if you send me a budget.
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Post #312 by Craig » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:46 pm

500-750 is pretty much exactly what I had in mind.
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Post #313 by Craig » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:47 pm

I'm assuming that's the PC, no peripherals? I'll pirate my own OS, obvs.
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Post #314 by HS » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:59 pm

Craig wrote:I'm assuming that's the PC, no peripherals? I'll pirate my own OS, obvs.


Yes. I would use https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/ ... it's pretty straight forward. You choose your parts and build it. Then buy it online or in-store.

I would suggest buying some of my hardware because I'm about to upgrade and it would be cheaper than what you would get on the market. Let me know if that interests you. My PC has run Battlefield 4 at almost a consistent 144 frames per second. It runs Fallout 4 pretty well. You won't get everything out of my rig, but you'll get enough. We can talk it out, and you can compare once you get your feet wet.

As for the rest, that does not include a keyboard and mouse. I always budget PCs without peripherals / operating systems, etc.
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Post #315 by Craig » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:05 am

Sure, send me your specs.
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Post #316 by 19nazzy » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:59 am

Craig wrote:I don't think my 7 year old pos computer will run this game.

How much to get a modern gaming rig? Not top of the line, just something respectable.

I've got a rig from 2009, it runs with everything on low. I've been meaning to upgrade for a while I just struggle with picking parts, its the analysis paralysis or whatever it's called.

HS, would you be interested in helping me spec out a PC? Basically have 1k I could put towards it, I'd like to be able to basically max out the ports that come from the ps4/x1 as that will keep me set for a while again.
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Post #317 by HS » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:35 am

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Craig wrote:I don't think my 7 year old pos computer will run this game.

How much to get a modern gaming rig? Not top of the line, just something respectable.

I've got a rig from 2009, it runs with everything on low. I've been meaning to upgrade for a while I just struggle with picking parts, its the analysis paralysis or whatever it's called.

HS, would you be interested in helping me spec out a PC? Basically have 1k I could put towards it, I'd like to be able to basically max out the ports that come from the ps4/x1 as that will keep me set for a while again.


Sure. I'll see what I can do.
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Post #318 by IcE ColD » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:35 am

Pulled the trigger on a SSD and 16Gb RAM y'day. Should be able to eventually run Fallout 4 at recommended. Not bad for a 4 years old laptop susf
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Craig wrote:I don't think my 7 year old pos computer will run this game.

How much to get a modern gaming rig? Not top of the line, just something respectable.

I've got a rig from 2009, it runs with everything on low. I've been meaning to upgrade for a while I just struggle with picking parts, its the analysis paralysis or whatever it's called.

HS, would you be interested in helping me spec out a PC? Basically have 1k I could put towards it, I'd like to be able to basically max out the ports that come from the ps4/x1 as that will keep me set for a while again.


Sure. I'll see what I can do.

Thanks, I've been using this http://bit.ly/NEWPC2015 as a reference previously, though it hasn't been updated in a while.

Also, no rush. (Once I have a really good idea what to get, I might wait until Boxing Day, or Black Friday if the stores up here do anything for it, to get my stuff)
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19nazzy wrote:I've got a rig from 2009, it runs with everything on low. I've been meaning to upgrade for a while I just struggle with picking parts, its the analysis paralysis or whatever it's called.

HS, would you be interested in helping me spec out a PC? Basically have 1k I could put towards it, I'd like to be able to basically max out the ports that come from the ps4/x1 as that will keep me set for a while again.


Sure. I'll see what I can do.

Thanks, I've been using this http://bit.ly/NEWPC2015 as a reference previously, though it hasn't been updated in a while.

Also, no rush. (Once I have a really good idea what to get, I might wait until Boxing Day, or Black Friday if the stores up here do anything for it, to get my stuff)


That's a pretty good guide to go with. I'd recommend it to Craig too if he wants. The pricing is off though. A lot of these are based on USD pricing? If you wanted to do any of these, I'd add 30% to the pricing just to be clear that you'd be getting products in Canadian dollars.

i5s would be a good starter for you as well. I have never used one, but I know they are great for gaming on a medium-end rig. I'd personally stack up on the CPU and GPU just to be safe because you want performance above all else. Quality matters, but it won't happen without performance either.

For example, if you were to use $1,000, you could configure the 'good'-very capable build rig to add a solid CPU and GPU.
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Post #321 by 19nazzy » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:21 pm

Yeah I believe it's USD, okay, that's what I'll use as my guide. If I do some mixing and matching I might ask if it'll still work as I'm not on top of what is compatible or not.
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Post #322 by Craig » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:09 am

AMD 290 vs 380, you go with the 290, ya?
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Post #323 by HS » Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:34 pm

Craig wrote:AMD 290 vs 380, you go with the 290, ya?


Nope. 380.

I find this site to be the best for benchmarking GPUs because it ranks their scaling ability to modern games. I went from the 550ti to the 760s in SLI to the 970.

So from a cost efficient standpoint, the 380 scales better per dollar than the 290 does. I have heard that the 290 also has a really loud fan, so you may get annoyed with it. Anyway, the scaling according to Passmark suggests that the 380 may be better per dollar than the 290s. In addition, bear in mind that a lot of 300 series cards are all re-skinned versions of the 200s.
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Post #324 by Craig » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:22 pm

Looks like the 290 smokes the 380 on that chart.

The more I look into it, the more I hope a sale pushes the 970 into my price range. The 290 sounds like a beast, but I don't like the noise or the ridiculous power consumption. That thing must have been mental when it first came out.
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Craig wrote:Looks like the 290 smokes the 380 on that chart.

The more I look into it, the more I hope a sale pushes the 970 into my price range. The 290 sounds like a beast, but I don't like the noise or the ridiculous power consumption. That thing must have been mental when it first came out.


It is based on performance to cost ratio for me. You can configure the chart by clicking on the video cards you are interested in. In terms of the 380, it powers past the 290 for cost to performance.
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Post #327 by IcE ColD » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:46 am



That's the same SSD I bought last week (should be delivered either tomorrow or Tuesday9 :superghey:
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Post #328 by HS » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:03 pm

WTF is mass drop?

And two, why can't I see the SSD?
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HS wrote:WTF is mass drop?

And two, why can't I see the SSD?


1. No clue.
2. Log in I guess. Or look at the link, like I did.
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Post #330 by Craig » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:48 pm

Massdrop is a site that buys things in bulk and passes the savings on to you, the consumer. It's a cheap way to buy shit online.

It's a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD for 160.
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Post #331 by Craig » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:52 pm

Same drive is 33% off at Newegg right now for 200 bucks.
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Post #332 by HS » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:46 pm

Hmmmm. Lemme check it out.
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Post #333 by HS » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:51 pm

FYI Craig, you should consider a mechanical keyboard. Personally, I don't use them because I have versatile uses for my keyboard (and believe me, it has fucked me over frequently in FPS), but it is good to have if you're using it strictly for gaming.
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Post #334 by WTF » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:50 pm

Preordered FO4 a while back from Green Man Gaming since it was on sale. Got my Steam key a few days before it released and preloaded it

So far, after about 24 hours, I find myself spending way too much time crafting and building settlements. Voice acting is decent and I'm having fun. Power Armour really feels like a difference maker this time around.
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WTF wrote:Preordered FO4 a while back from Green Man Gaming since it was on sale. Got my Steam key a few days before it released and preloaded it

So far, after about 24 hours, I find myself spending way too much time crafting and building settlements. Voice acting is decent and I'm having fun. Power Armour really feels like a difference maker this time around.


Crafting is so aggravating sometimes though. I'm crafting a lot of different mods to my guns / armour. My only gripe at the moment is the UI of settlement building. It's terrible and I still haven't figured it all out.
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Post #336 by R-66Y » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:23 am

It would be way cheaper to buy an Xbox one to play it
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Post #337 by HS » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:38 pm

Randomly got attacked by Piper. Not sure why. Some sort of bug I think.
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Post #338 by Craig » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:25 pm

I think this is going to be my new case: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6811352048
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Craig wrote:I think this is going to be my new case: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6811352048


Lemme check my inventory to see about a case. I may not be able to provide you with the other parts -- I got an offer to buy something unrelated to the PC. Not sure if I can do both a 1,500 upgrade on the PC and a motorcycle.

But just to be clear, I want to get rid of the other stuff, so you can have it for free if you want. The mouse, keyboard, and presumably the case if I still have it. We might as well work out a date we can meet and then you can rummage through the extra stuff I may have. I'd also check to see if I have an extra PSU. Really, I just want to get rid of everything and if it helps you with your budget, so be it.
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Post #340 by Craig » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:14 pm

I already have a free PSU on the way.

Was counting on the CPU/mobo though. Lemme know before BF.
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Post #341 by HS » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:21 pm

Craig wrote:I already have a free PSU on the way.

Was counting on the CPU/mobo though. Lemme know before BF.

Yea, I know. I apologise for that. I should have a better idea by next week when I head to London. I still have the case. It's the Cooler Master HAF 912. It's a great case. I changed it to the Cooler Master HAF XB Evo -- which I consider to be an upgrade.

At the very least, I will let you know. I want the PC upgrades too. Trying to work it out right now.
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Post #342 by Craig » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:26 pm

No worries. I'm no worse off. Shame there's no USB 3 on that case, but I'll take it anyway. Beggars and choosers and all that. What's it got for fans?
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Craig wrote:No worries. I'm no worse off. Shame there's no USB 3 on that case, but I'll take it anyway. Beggars and choosers and all that. What's it got for fans?


All the original fans are installed. I'll need to put together the remnants of the casing so you have some extras (screws, covers, etc). I'll put it together tomorrow and then by next week, I'll know for certain which direction I'm going with the other parts.
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Post #344 by Craig » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:36 pm

Sounds good.
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Post #345 by Craig » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:12 am

Thoughts on 4460 vs 4600? They seem to be the same price.
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Post #346 by HS » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:03 pm

Craig wrote:Thoughts on 4460 vs 4600? They seem to be the same price.

You referring to the CPUs?

Both are pretty comparable. My only concern would be finding the right GPU to run the entire rig. You want to balance your rig so that there is no bottleneck. In which case, having an i5 + 970 would be a good start. I would be curious to find out if you need a fan better than stock -- if so, I would recommend the Hyper Evo 212.

Those should be priced for Black Friday FYI. It's the i7-6700 and i7-5820K that no one knows will be spec'd for Black Friday.
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Post #347 by HS » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:20 pm

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... gnorebbr=1

FYI. That's not bad. I'd still target an AMD for your budget though. There are some other factors you should be considering -- and I'm an NVIDIA fanboy. AMD has prepared very well for DX12, which puts everyone who owns a GTX into a situation where they may not have proper optimisation for the next generation of gaming.

It's very convoluted and not really something I can explain well. Check this out: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/2135 ... now-so-far
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Post #348 by Craig » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:41 pm

I want a 970. I'm just going to grow my budget as needed.

The big draws for me are noise and temp/power consumption.
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Post #349 by HS » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:43 pm

Craig wrote:I want a 970. I'm just going to grow my budget as needed.

The big draws for me are noise and temp/power consumption.

Definitely something to consider. Coincidentally, the MSI 970s had this weird coil whine when it was released. Been fixed since. But overall, the ASUS Strix 970 I have is essentially silent. If you go with the i5, I think you're trending in the right direction.
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Post #350 by 19nazzy » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:13 pm

Is the 970 the one that had the VRAM issue? Where it was stated as 4 GB but couldn't actually use it.

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