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Re: Portugal

Post #201 by Dog » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:00 pm

Greg and I have already posted comments on Sata. They are crap (like a worse Transat). I think they do direct from Montreal as well in the summer months.
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Post #202 by Twitter bArt » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:02 pm

I'll take Greg's word for it
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone

It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.

Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."

...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...

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Post #203 by Craig » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:17 am

Old planes, but otherwise they were fine I thought. Just don't expect much in the way of in flight entertainment.
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Post #204 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:46 am

Craig wrote:Old planes, but otherwise they were fine I thought. Just don't expect much in the way of in flight entertainment.



i bring my own...IPad , movies, books

more interested in appearance of safety and comfort of fight (seats etc).
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #205 by Dog » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:08 am

Tight seats. Safety....well they do daily transatlantic flights and aren’t really in the news, so I guess that’s good.
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Re: Portugal

Post #206 by MP » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:35 am

Artie wrote:so looks like we are doing

Mtl to Lisbon
Lisbon to Sao Miguel
Sao Miguel to Porto
Porto to MTL

is it worth taking the ferry to Sao Miguel or just fly?

Like Greg said, I'd also do:
MtL to Lisbon
Train to porto
Porto to Sao Miguel
Sao Miguel to mtl.

Porto and Lisbon are like a 2.5 hour drive apart, you don't need to complicate it with a transatlantic flight.
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Post #207 by Craig » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:05 am

Dog wrote:Tight seats. Safety....well they do daily transatlantic flights and aren’t really in the news, so I guess that’s good.


Yeah, seats aren't great.

Safety? All the airlines in the world combined to report zero deaths last year. I never really worry about safety.
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Post #208 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:46 pm

MP wrote:
Artie wrote:so looks like we are doing

Mtl to Lisbon
Lisbon to Sao Miguel
Sao Miguel to Porto
Porto to MTL

is it worth taking the ferry to Sao Miguel or just fly?

Like Greg said, I'd also do:
MtL to Lisbon
Train to porto
Porto to Sao Miguel
Sao Miguel to mtl.

Porto and Lisbon are like a 2.5 hour drive apart, you don't need to complicate it with a transatlantic flight.



so looking at the reverse

Montreal to Sao Miguel
Sau Miguel to Porto
Porto to Lisbon (drive)
Lisbon to Mtl

although could change depending on flights
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #209 by TittiesNBeer » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:56 pm

SATA are Crap

Beware of long delays.
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Post #210 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:13 am

This Sao Miguel part is really complicating things
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #211 by Dog » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:22 am

Yeah, I don’t think I’d do sao miguel as part of a mainland porto trip -unless you really wanna. It’s like stopping in iceland on the way to paris or somewhat. Could be cool, but also a bit out of the way/complicating. Depends how interested you are un seeing it.
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Post #212 by Craig » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:51 am

Dog wrote:Yeah, I don’t think I’d do sao miguel as part of a mainland porto trip -unless you really wanna. It’s like stopping in iceland on the way to paris or somewhat. Could be cool, but also a bit out of the way/complicating. Depends how interested you are un seeing it.


That's the only way I would see Iceland.

If you can stomach a cheap airline it's a trivial way to see a chunk of the world you'll never get to see otherwise. If you can't, then it's not worth the hassle.
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Post #213 by Dog » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:00 am

That’s what I said, greg.

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Post #214 by Craig » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:38 pm

It's neither out of the way nor complicating. :colbert:
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Post #215 by Dog » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:54 pm

Craig wrote:It's neither out of the way nor complicating. :colbert:


It’s out of the way of a direct flight to Lisbon, unless he was planning on parachuting. It means extra flights, to and from airports with the delays and security and luggage and urgh. Makes it out of the way from a direct flight and complicated. Fine if he feels like it. I tend to not mind going out of the way to see something I’m interested in, but not everybody likes to travel like that. For some, the hasstle matters/is anti-thesis to a vacation.
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Post #216 by Dog » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:54 pm

You know damn well what I mean!

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Post #217 by AD » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:48 pm

As usual, this is a time issue, not a location issue. Dog.
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Post #218 by Dog » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:04 pm

It’s vertically out of the way.

And that distinction is ultimately meaningless. Facets of the same thing.

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Post #219 by AD » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:07 pm

Only if you're traveling by plane.

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Post #220 by Dog » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:10 pm

Oh. Forgot that Artie was considering going to Portugal by ferry.
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Post #221 by AD » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:14 pm

Good. I'm glad that's settled.
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Post #222 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:39 pm

It's not a location thing

it's a time/multiple flight thing

It's be easier to go to Iceland and then Lisbon
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #223 by Dog » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:59 pm

Well, the Azores and Iceland are both part of the same mountain range, the mid atlantic ridge. So, you visit one, you visit them all!
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Post #224 by Twitter bArt » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:20 pm

i think i may be able to get it done, but will have to sacrifice a day in Lisbon or Porto
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #225 by Slick Nick » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:38 pm

Pena castle in Sintra is a very cool daytrip if you're in the Lisbon area. If you want to have some beach time around Lisbon, Praia do Troia (Setubal) about 1.5h from Lisbon is great, much closer you have Cascais and Estoril (about 45 minutes on the train from downtown Lisbon) is a must I think.

Also, I would end the trip in Porto.. there are a lot flights from Porto to YUL. It's really a nice small city, very laid back.. no stress, enjoy a good meal on the Douro with a great local wine.
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Post #226 by AD » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:39 am

And then come see us in YUL!
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Post #227 by Dog » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:12 am

Slick Nick wrote:Pena castle in Sintra is a very cool daytrip if you're in the Lisbon area. If you want to have some beach time around Lisbon, Praia do Troia (Setubal) about 1.5h from Lisbon is great, much closer you have Cascais and Estoril (about 45 minutes on the train from downtown Lisbon) is a must I think.

Also, I would end the trip in Porto.. there are a lot flights from Porto to YUL. It's really a nice small city, very laid back.. no stress, enjoy a good meal on the Douro with a great local wine.


I approve this post. Sintra is fantastic (day trip from Lisbon). Jeronimos monestary is also great. The cascais and estoril suburbs and beaches are great (I actually preferred it to Algarve). Old city as mentionned as well is a must of course. Fatima is very meh, but I’m a godless heathen.
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Post #228 by MP » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:44 pm

Yes Sintra is good. Go early, by train, catch the first bus and go right to the castle, then walk down to the old Moorish castle. Only do the palace if you got time to kill.

We did it in reverse and the castle was absolutely mobbed with people by the time we got there.

We did the walk from the Moorish castle down to the town/palace. Totally doable, but the trail markers weren't the best.
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Post #229 by Twitter bArt » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:59 pm

so would you spend more time in Porto (4 days) - Lisbon(3 days) or the reverse
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #230 by MP » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:08 am

I guess it depends on how much of a connoisseur of port wine you wannabe. If you just want to see the sights, visit one or two of the main port houses, then you need 2 days minimum. Porto is not that big of city, but if you tack on days sampling port wine or doing a Douro valley tour you can easily stretch it out.

Lisbon, while still pretty much walkable, is more spread out, has more sites, more areas to explore, more shopping, and a more metro feel than Porto. Then you have a day to Sintra which is worth it.

My feeling was while I like the Porto vibe more, I would still spend more time in Lisboa on a first visit. If you got 7 days, I'd go 3 in Porto, 3 in Lisbon, 1 in Sintra.
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Post #231 by Dog » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:18 am

Why only 7 days? How long is the trip? That said, Lisbon 4 and Porto 3 seem a minimum to get a decent feel for each cities, I would think.
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Post #232 by MP » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:27 am

Dog wrote:Why only 7 days? How long is the trip? That said, Lisbon 4 and Porto 3 seem a minimum to get a decent feel for each cities, I would think.

Maybe RT like to travel like PF77. :dunno:
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Post #233 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:07 pm

Dog wrote:Why only 7 days? How long is the trip? That said, Lisbon 4 and Porto 3 seem a minimum to get a decent feel for each cities, I would think.



it's actually 3-5 days in Sao Miguel and then trying to figure out the rest

going for a total of 14 days, but trying to leave some flexibility, right now I am working on the minimums to spend in each place I guess.

so like

4 days Sao Miguel
4 days Porto
4 days Lisbon

leave me a couple of travel days as well.
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




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Post #234 by Dog » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:40 pm

Makes sense to me.
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Post #235 by AD » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:32 pm

So why do you want to spend 14 straight days around Portuguese and semi-Portuguese people?
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Post #236 by Twitter bArt » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:22 pm

i'm trying to understand Fids and Beak better

maybe even gain some insight into Mu
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #237 by Dog » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:43 pm

plus, bacalhau!
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Post #238 by Boring Choice #2 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:39 pm

Twitter bArt wrote:i'm trying to understand Fids and Beak better

maybe even gain some insight into Mu


So, you are essentially saying that you hate yourself?
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Post #239 by Twitter bArt » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:58 pm

Boring Choice #2 wrote:
Twitter bArt wrote:i'm trying to understand Fids and Beak better

maybe even gain some insight into Mu


So, you are essentially saying that you hate yourself?



yes, in more words than necessary
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #240 by TittiesNBeer » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:48 pm

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Post #241 by Twitter bArt » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:50 am

Still can't figure out Mu
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OOOH yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of Vinny is gone



It's too bad all the people that could really run the Habs are busy doing talk radio, writing blogs or posting on message boards.



Now, Lajoie is an imbecile, a cretin and a plagiarist, who to use author Dany Laferrière's deliciously withering expression, "lives beyond his intellectual means."



...as serious as a poutine shortage in Chicoutimi during a curling bonspiel...



Haddock wrote:I wouldn't know anything about that. I gave my soul up when I swore allegiance to the goddamn queen.




:lr: :lr: :lr:
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Post #242 by PredsFan77 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:29 pm

Ronaldo gonna get beat today yall
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drew instead, i was close
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Post #244 by chicpea » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:19 am

I hear the portos are cruising up and down little Italy in "the 6ix" trolling with flags hanging from their kia rondos.
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Post #245 by Dog » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:54 am

chicpea wrote:I hear the portos are cruising up and down little Italy in "the 6ix" trolling with flags hanging from their kia rondos.


Jesus, beaker! Knock it off!!!
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Post #246 by chicpea » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:03 pm

Looks like my buddy dong was right about this Harold Kang fellow. Did you see the gifs in the app? It was like the future of soccer.

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